Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2

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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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D-Angle said:
Marr interview here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqvR00lU_8s

He actually talked me round on the extra bank holidays thing. But security wise, I don't think I have ever been so scared of someone being one election away from leading Britain. I have said it before that Labour deal almost exclusively in theoretical and ethereal matters rather than the actual meat & potatoes of government, and that was clear here. There are some things on which you cannot dither, and Corbyn has no notion of that.

He actually thinks that Labour can carry on being an Islingtonite talking shop after winning an election, and doesn't realise that will hand an advantage to people who aren't as peace-loving as him. Of course these people don't exist in Corbynland, we all want to embrace our brothers and sisters in unity really...

Leadership involves acknowledging that bad people exist and they will only avoid doing bad things to you if you threaten them with the same or worse. You don't have to like it, but you do have to do it.
On the Bank Holidays it's £2.5billon per day lost GDP so £10billion a year. JC mentioned a touch more spend would cover 1 of those off not all 4.

The Feb half term Easter st davids day St. George's day st Patrick's day May Day late May bank holiday ....
so you go up from 8 to 12 days but between 25/12 and 25/5 you have 10 of those 12 days as Bank Holidays with only Late aug and St. Andrew's day in Nov for the other 6 months of the year.

Crafty_

13,288 posts

200 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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D-Angle said:
Marr interview here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqvR00lU_8s

He actually talked me round on the extra bank holidays thing. But security wise, I don't think I have ever been so scared of someone being one election away from leading Britain. I have said it before that Labour deal almost exclusively in theoretical and ethereal matters rather than the actual meat & potatoes of government, and that was clear here. There are some things on which you cannot dither, and Corbyn has no notion of that.

He actually thinks that Labour can carry on being an Islingtonite talking shop after winning an election, and doesn't realise that will hand an advantage to people who aren't as peace-loving as him. Of course these people don't exist in Corbynland, we all want to embrace our brothers and sisters in unity really...

Leadership involves acknowledging that bad people exist and they will only avoid doing bad things to you if you threaten them with the same or worse. You don't have to like it, but you do have to do it.
On the Bank Holiday thing - he claims that everyone is so poor and that the economy is broken and so on, then comes out with a policy that means that many will lose 4 days pay, so, um how does that help them ? then claims a bank holiday adds £1.2bn to the economy... So people get paid less and somehow, we'll spend an extra £4.8bn a year ? how does that work ?

its complete tosh aimed at Sun and Mirror readers who will think its great that they are being given 4 days off.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Will he promise the world knowing he cannot deliver.



Rethinks.

I think he will promise the world thinking he can deliver.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Also 4 extra days Bank holiday means schools will essentially have a week less off in Aug so that pinch point of UKs wanting overseas or U.K. Holidays gets even costlier as the demand is spread over a shorter window.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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D-Angle said:
1. Is the election rigged? Answer waffle
2. You could have stopped it why didn’t you Answer because opposition partys want to be in government

Got bored after that it was just waffle

98elise

26,608 posts

161 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Crafty_ said:
D-Angle said:
Marr interview here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqvR00lU_8s

He actually talked me round on the extra bank holidays thing. But security wise, I don't think I have ever been so scared of someone being one election away from leading Britain. I have said it before that Labour deal almost exclusively in theoretical and ethereal matters rather than the actual meat & potatoes of government, and that was clear here. There are some things on which you cannot dither, and Corbyn has no notion of that.

He actually thinks that Labour can carry on being an Islingtonite talking shop after winning an election, and doesn't realise that will hand an advantage to people who aren't as peace-loving as him. Of course these people don't exist in Corbynland, we all want to embrace our brothers and sisters in unity really...

Leadership involves acknowledging that bad people exist and they will only avoid doing bad things to you if you threaten them with the same or worse. You don't have to like it, but you do have to do it.
On the Bank Holiday thing - he claims that everyone is so poor and that the economy is broken and so on, then comes out with a policy that means that many will lose 4 days pay, so, um how does that help them ? then claims a bank holiday adds £1.2bn to the economy... So people get paid less and somehow, we'll spend an extra £4.8bn a year ? how does that work ?

its complete tosh aimed at Sun and Mirror readers who will think its great that they are being given 4 days off.
He claimed that we spend during a bank holiday, so its all equal. By that logic we could have an extra day off every week because we would spend more to even it out. Extrapoliate that even more and we could all stop working because spending would go through the roof.

He's an idiot. Its like saying we should have christmas every week because we spend more.


Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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98elise said:
He's an idiot. Its like saying we should have christmas every week because we spend more.
Exactly!

He should campaign to move Christmas to when the shops aren't so busy.

I'd vote for that.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Vote for me I will give you all 4 days off a year.

Public sector workers who have 6 years in service have 7 weeks holiday so 35 days plus this proposed 12 days so 47 days leave!

That's nearly one days off every week of the year / it is one day off per week for 90% of the year!
This mirrors the "three day week" that labour policy writers have as the ambition.

Lance Catamaran

24,982 posts

227 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Vote for me I will give you all 4 days off a year.

Public sector workers who have 6 years in service have 7 weeks holiday so 35 days plus this proposed 12 days so 47 days leave!

That's nearly one days off every week of the year / it is one day off per week for 90% of the year!
This mirrors the "three day week" that labour policy writers have as the ambition.
Whereas most private sector places are open on bank holiday anyway, and without overtime payments

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Lance Catamaran said:
Whereas most private sector places are open on bank holiday anyway, and without overtime payments
Well we wanT to nationalise everything
You can live in this land where you get everything for nothing as you deserve it

poo at Paul's

14,149 posts

175 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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98elise said:
Crafty_ said:
D-Angle said:
Marr interview here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqvR00lU_8s

He actually talked me round on the extra bank holidays thing. But security wise, I don't think I have ever been so scared of someone being one election away from leading Britain. I have said it before that Labour deal almost exclusively in theoretical and ethereal matters rather than the actual meat & potatoes of government, and that was clear here. There are some things on which you cannot dither, and Corbyn has no notion of that.

He actually thinks that Labour can carry on being an Islingtonite talking shop after winning an election, and doesn't realise that will hand an advantage to people who aren't as peace-loving as him. Of course these people don't exist in Corbynland, we all want to embrace our brothers and sisters in unity really...

Leadership involves acknowledging that bad people exist and they will only avoid doing bad things to you if you threaten them with the same or worse. You don't have to like it, but you do have to do it.
On the Bank Holiday thing - he claims that everyone is so poor and that the economy is broken and so on, then comes out with a policy that means that many will lose 4 days pay, so, um how does that help them ? then claims a bank holiday adds £1.2bn to the economy... So people get paid less and somehow, we'll spend an extra £4.8bn a year ? how does that work ?

its complete tosh aimed at Sun and Mirror readers who will think its great that they are being given 4 days off.
He claimed that we spend during a bank holiday, so its all equal. By that logic we could have an extra day off every week because we would spend more to even it out. Extrapoliate that even more and we could all stop working because spending would go through the roof.

He's an idiot. Its like saying we should have christmas every week because we spend more.
And think how many new Santa Claus jobs will be created? it's win win, Jezza

Cobnapint

8,631 posts

151 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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What a deluded, bullstting, sad, desperate and dangerous old man.

His answer to everything is 'debate', 'discuss', 'reach agreement with.......even when it comes to instructing nuclear sub captains, or drone operators with confirmed targets in their sights.

Made me laugh at the end, he said they were putting their manifesto together. Six weeks ago they were telling everyone they were on an election footing and ready to go.

Clueless .

Edited by Cobnapint on Sunday 23 April 14:07

Stuzza

138 posts

88 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Cobnapint said:
His answer to everything is 'debate', 'discuss', 'reach agreement without........
Not quite everything; his answer to criticism and debate from within the party is 'deselect'

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Stuzza said:
Not quite everything; his answer to criticism and debate from within the party is 'deselect'
Very valid point.

Crafty_

13,288 posts

200 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Spectator have picked up on his statements about Ireland and he's previous IRA support: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/jeremy-corby...

Dead man walking, not only for this election but for his leadership too.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Crafty_ said:
Spectator have picked up on his statements about Ireland and he's previous IRA support: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/jeremy-corby...

Dead man walking, not only for this election but for his leadership too.
Thats nearly a year old.


Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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He's been known as an IRA supporter for years.

Seems people are reluctant to follow up on it as it shows the reality of the 'peace' process and that's not deemed a good thing.

motco

15,958 posts

246 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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desolate said:
Crafty_ said:
Spectator have picked up on his statements about Ireland and he's previous IRA support: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/jeremy-corby...

Dead man walking, not only for this election but for his leadership too.
Thats nearly a year old.
Does that detract from its accuracy?

motco

15,958 posts

246 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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desolate said:
Crafty_ said:
Spectator have picked up on his statements about Ireland and he's previous IRA support: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/jeremy-corby...

Dead man walking, not only for this election but for his leadership too.
Thats nearly a year old.
Does that detract from its accuracy?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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motco said:
Does that detract from its accuracy?
No.

Just pointing out that it was originally written 12 months ago.
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