Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2

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skahigh

2,023 posts

132 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
A57 HSV said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Ye gods, did anyone just hear Corbyn get interviewed on R4 Woman's Hour? Car crash doesn't even begin to cover it.

Because I'm on my crappy windows phone I cant provide a link, but it starts about 25 minutes in.

Highlight is interviewer asking him for figures on a policy and him going completely silent as he tries to find them on his iPad.

How anyone that hears that can vote Labour, god only knows.
Yes I heard it, beyond cringeworthy. Emma Barnett (I think that's her name) was great, she made Paxman look feeble.
Full interview is here https://order-order.com/2017/05/30/corbyn-self-des...

He sounded rather pathetic, begging to answer the question only after she'd given him time to look it up what he was meant to be announcing.
Holy st, everyone needs to listen to that, unbelievable. The interviewer is excellent too.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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skahigh said:
Deptford Draylons said:
A57 HSV said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Ye gods, did anyone just hear Corbyn get interviewed on R4 Woman's Hour? Car crash doesn't even begin to cover it.

Because I'm on my crappy windows phone I cant provide a link, but it starts about 25 minutes in.

Highlight is interviewer asking him for figures on a policy and him going completely silent as he tries to find them on his iPad.

How anyone that hears that can vote Labour, god only knows.
Yes I heard it, beyond cringeworthy. Emma Barnett (I think that's her name) was great, she made Paxman look feeble.
Full interview is here https://order-order.com/2017/05/30/corbyn-self-des...

He sounded rather pathetic, begging to answer the question only after she'd given him time to look it up what he was meant to be announcing.
Holy st, everyone needs to listen to that, unbelievable. The interviewer is excellent too.
That did provide a laugh. But in his defence, it doesn't matter what the true cost will be. He described it as "a lot". hehe

Gargamel

14,996 posts

262 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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The full exchange between Emma Barnett and Jeremy Corbyn

EB: How much will it cost to provide unmeans-tested childcare for 1.3 million chidlren?

JC: Erm, it will cost, erm. It will obviously cost a lot to do so, we accept that.

EB: I presume you have the figures?

JC: Yes, I do. We'll - it does cost a lot to do it. The point I'm trying to make is that we're making it universal so that we are in a position to make sure that every child gets it and those that can at the moment get free places will continue to get them, those that have to pay won't and we'll collect the money through taxation, mainly through corporate taxation.

EB: So how much will it cost?

JC: I’ll give you the figure in a moment.

EB: You don’t know it.

JC: Erm…

EB: You’re logging into your iPad here. You’ve announced a major policy, and you don’t know how much it will cost?

JC: Can I give you the exact figure in a moment, please?

EB: Is this not exactly the issue with people and the Labour Party, which came up under Gordon Brown, that we cannot trust you with out money?

JC: Not at all. All of our manifesto is fully costed and examined.

EB: You’re holding your manifesto, you’re flicking through it, you’ve got an iPad there, you’ve had a phone call while we’re in here, and yet you don’t know how much it’s going to cost.

JC: Can we come back to that in a moment?

EB: What, when you've looked it up? My point is, this is quite troubling. This is a policy you're launching today, Mr Corbyn, and you don't know how much it's going to cost. It hardly inspires the voters.

JC: I think what is important for the voters to understand is that if we don’t invest in our children and we don't invest in them for the future then they do less well in primary school, less well in secondary school and less well in the future.

EB: But you don’t know the cost?

JC: I want to give you an accurate figure.

EB: Why on earth are you giving free childcare to people who can afford it, if it's unmeans-tested? You don't have the figure. Hopefully somebody's emailing it to you.

JC: The important thing is that all children get a chance to grow up together. At the moment we have a system which separates out in the sense that a child of wealthy parents may well be able to go to a paid-for pre-school or nursery facility; others will not get that chance because their parents can't afford it or if they're poorer will get a free place. What we think-

EB: This is a very expensive policy, Mr Corbyn. I’m going to help you out with the figures. Would you like to hear how much it’s going to cost?

JC: What we think is, it’s more important to invest for the whole community and collect the money back through taxation on the principle of universalism.

EB: So it's all coming from taxation? It's a staggering cost. Would you like to know how much your policy is going to cost, Mr Corbyn?

JC: What is your estimate of it?

EB: Well, it’s actually Angela Rayner, your shadow education secretary. £2.7billion, and then £4.8billion, with half a billion to reverse the cuts to the Sure Start scheme. Does that sound about right?

JC: It does sound correct…

Tycho

11,630 posts

274 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Burwood said:
skahigh said:
Deptford Draylons said:
A57 HSV said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Ye gods, did anyone just hear Corbyn get interviewed on R4 Woman's Hour? Car crash doesn't even begin to cover it.

Because I'm on my crappy windows phone I cant provide a link, but it starts about 25 minutes in.

Highlight is interviewer asking him for figures on a policy and him going completely silent as he tries to find them on his iPad.

How anyone that hears that can vote Labour, god only knows.
Yes I heard it, beyond cringeworthy. Emma Barnett (I think that's her name) was great, she made Paxman look feeble.
Full interview is here https://order-order.com/2017/05/30/corbyn-self-des...

He sounded rather pathetic, begging to answer the question only after she'd given him time to look it up what he was meant to be announcing.
Holy st, everyone needs to listen to that, unbelievable. The interviewer is excellent too.
That did provide a laugh. But in his defence, it doesn't matter what the true cost will be. He described it as "a lot". hehe
Wow, that is horrific. How do the Labour party think that giving benefits out non-means tested and then taking it back through taxation is an efficient way of doing things. I guess they have to create government jobs somehow.

turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Corbyn car crash interview said:
EB: How much will it cost to provide unmeans-tested childcare for 1.3 million chidlren?

JC: Erm, it will cost, erm. It will obviously cost a lot to do so, we accept that.

EB: I presume you have the figures?

JC: Yes, I do. We'll - it does cost a lot to do it. The point I'm trying to make is that we're making it universal so that we are in a position to make sure that every child gets it and those that can at the moment get free places will continue to get them, those that have to pay won't and we'll collect the money through taxation, mainly through corporate taxation.

EB: So how much will it cost?

JC: I’ll give you the figure in a moment.

EB: You don’t know it.

JC: Erm…

EB: You’re logging into your iPad here. You’ve announced a major policy, and you don’t know how much it will cost?

JC: Can I give you the exact figure in a moment, please?

EB: Is this not exactly the issue with people and the Labour Party, which came up under Gordon Brown, that we cannot trust you with out money?

JC: Not at all. All of our manifesto is fully costed and examined.

EB: You’re holding your manifesto, you’re flicking through it, you’ve got an iPad there, you’ve had a phone call while we’re in here, and yet you don’t know how much it’s going to cost.

JC: Can we come back to that in a moment?

EB: What, when you've looked it up? My point is, this is quite troubling. This is a policy you're launching today, Mr Corbyn, and you don't know how much it's going to cost. It hardly inspires the voters.

JC: I think what is important for the voters to understand is that if we don’t invest in our children and we don't invest in them for the future then they do less well in primary school, less well in secondary school and less well in the future.

EB: But you don’t know the cost?

JC: I want to give you an accurate figure.

EB: Why on earth are you giving free childcare to people who can afford it, if it's unmeans-tested? You don't have the figure. Hopefully somebody's emailing it to you.

JC: The important thing is that all children get a chance to grow up together. At the moment we have a system which separates out in the sense that a child of wealthy parents may well be able to go to a paid-for pre-school or nursery facility; others will not get that chance because their parents can't afford it or if they're poorer will get a free place. What we think-

EB: This is a very expensive policy, Mr Corbyn. I’m going to help you out with the figures. Would you like to hear how much it’s going to cost?

JC: What we think is, it’s more important to invest for the whole community and collect the money back through taxation on the principle of universalism.

EB: So it's all coming from taxation? It's a staggering cost. Would you like to know how much your policy is going to cost, Mr Corbyn?

JC: What is your estimate of it?

EB: Well, it’s actually Angela Rayner, your shadow education secretary. £2.7billion, and then £4.8billion, with half a billion to reverse the cuts to the Sure Start scheme. Does that sound about right?

JC: It does sound correct…
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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Jesus wept - how can anyone vote for this shambles of a man. Labour under Corbyn will totally bankrupt this country.

skahigh

2,023 posts

132 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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The whole interview is superb, she really rattles him and all because she attacks his policies and not his character (for the most part).

Gargamel

14,996 posts

262 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Friend of the rich though is Mr Corbyn. If he makes it unmeas tested then presumably the rich (CF earning above £80,000) will also qualify

Hmm, didn't seem that keen on subsidising the rich before

Perhaps, and its only a suggestion, they haven't fully thought this one through.

Tycho

11,630 posts

274 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Gargamel said:
Friend of the rich though is Mr Corbyn. If he makes it unmeas tested then presumably the rich (CF earning above £80,000) will also qualify

Hmm, didn't seem that keen on subsidising the rich before

Perhaps, and its only a suggestion, they haven't fully thought this one through.
This is what I don't understand about the party and followers. They were up in arms about the Tories wanting to make pensioners pay for their care from the value of their house but only for the wealthier then they complain about the means testing of heating subsidies. It doesn't make sense.

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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garyhun said:
Jesus wept - how can anyone vote for this shambles of a man. Labour under Corbyn will totally bankrupt this country.
When you get down to the bare basics, this is what most, if not all Labour/socialist governments eventually do when left unchecked.

When all you have is the promise of free stuff if you vote for them, you have no competent economic argument.

Corbyn should be put on a watch list, not campaigning to become Prime Minister. And we sneered at the candidates for the US elections!

768

13,694 posts

97 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
Full interview is here https://order-order.com/2017/05/30/corbyn-self-des...

He sounded rather pathetic, begging to answer the question only after she'd given him time to look it up what he was meant to be announcing.
Utterly amateur. He really doesn't give a st about the money, it's as though the numbers are just an inconvenience.

Vaud

50,583 posts

156 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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skahigh said:
The whole interview is superb, she really rattles him and all because she attacks his policies and not his character (for the most part).
She was very good - firm but fair.

Lance Catamaran

24,988 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Vaud said:
skahigh said:
The whole interview is superb, she really rattles him and all because she attacks his policies and not his character (for the most part).
She was very good - firm but fair.
Twitter is now awash with his fanclub outraged at BBC bias though, the salt levels are critical.

Only 13% of Jews would vote for him, amazed the figure is that high to be honest

https://twitter.com/MarcusDysch/status/86946835549...

PurpleAki

1,601 posts

88 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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A57 HSV said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Ye gods, did anyone just hear Corbyn get interviewed on R4 Woman's Hour? Car crash doesn't even begin to cover it.

Because I'm on my crappy windows phone I cant provide a link, but it starts about 25 minutes in.

Highlight is interviewer asking him for figures on a policy and him going completely silent as he tries to find them on his iPad.

How anyone that hears that can vote Labour, god only knows.
Yes I heard it, beyond cringeworthy. Emma Barnett (I think that's her name) was great, she made Paxman look feeble.
Just seen it on daily politics. It was filmed too. He was all over the shop. Not a clue has he... Was as bad as Abbott's car crash interview!



Edited by PurpleAki on Tuesday 30th May 12:30

Challo

10,161 posts

156 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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PurpleAki said:
A57 HSV said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Ye gods, did anyone just hear Corbyn get interviewed on R4 Woman's Hour? Car crash doesn't even begin to cover it.

Because I'm on my crappy windows phone I cant provide a link, but it starts about 25 minutes in.

Highlight is interviewer asking him for figures on a policy and him going completely silent as he tries to find them on his iPad.

How anyone that hears that can vote Labour, god only knows.
Yes I heard it, beyond cringeworthy. Emma Barnett (I think that's her name) was great, she made Paxman look feeble.
Just seen it on daily politics. It was filmed too. He was all over the shop. Not a clue has he!

EB: How much is it going cost?

JC: A lot.

EB: Yes but how much?

JC: (Huge awkward dead air pause) Can we come back to that?

EB: What? When you've finally looked up the figures???

Was as bad as Abbott's car crash interview!
Twiiter claiming Womens Hour is biased to the tory's and that they where giving him a hard time. No issue on the fact he didn't know the numbers as they would be on his ipad. FFS

PurpleAki

1,601 posts

88 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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It's even worse when you watch the film of it. He's scrabbling around going through his notebook furiously scrolling through his iPad.

I recommend seeking it out.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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PurpleAki said:
Just seen it on daily politics. It was filmed too. He was all over the shop. Not a clue has he... Was as bad as Abbott's car crash interview!
Nope.

It was worse.

He's the Leader of HM Official Opposition.

TM had all the figures at hand when questioned last night.

768

13,694 posts

97 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Maybe people will start speculating about Corbyn being seriously ill too.

Perhaps he's caught diabetes from Diane.

PurpleAki

1,601 posts

88 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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If there's an illness which makes them irredeemable fkwits, then they've all caught it.

essayer

9,080 posts

195 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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PurpleAki said:
It's even worse when you watch the film of it. He's scrabbling around going through his notebook furiously scrolling through his iPad.

I recommend seeking it out.
The wobbly camera zoom is straight out of 'The Thick Of It'

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