Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2

[Jockman]

gooner1 said:

Lance Catamaran said:

Erm, what? The wall says not to build walls? Does he also know that the wall around the camp site is to stop people gaining illegal entry, the same thing that Trump's wall is proposing to do.

Well the wall at Glastonbury certainly seems to be working, haven't spotted a single Mexican yet,

I noticed several thumbs down during his iteration.

[Vron]

http://www.somersetlive.co.uk/whats-on/glastonbury...

[Goaty Bill 2]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Free market capitalism has eradicated 80% of the most serious global poverty in 40 years, what has socialism ever achieved - Venezuela?

Corbyn and his ilk are dangerously delusional.

As bad as capitalism is, and as corrupt as the driving motives often are, this is the fact of case.

As for Marxism; in excess of 100 million dead in the 20th century alone through execution and near impossible, to impossible to survive, prison / work camp conditions.

[Jockman]

Vron said:

http://www.somersetlive.co.uk/whats-on/glastonbury...

Adds up. Scrapping of Trident is the elephant in the Manifesto. Eradicates all sensitivity analysis.

[gooner1]

Jockman said:

gooner1 said:

Lance Catamaran said:

Erm, what? The wall says not to build walls? Does he also know that the wall around the camp site is to stop people gaining illegal entry, the same thing that Trump's wall is proposing to do.

Well the wall at Glastonbury certainly seems to be working, haven't spotted a single Mexican yet,

I noticed several thumbs down during his iteration.

Only to be expected, Glastonbury, like any other large public gathering, will have representatives of most political views.
After all, they can't all be drug crazed, booze fuelled, hedonistic kids, as someone described them today,all 100,000 off them.

[anonymous-user]

Use populism to get into power. Promise lots of stuff to be popular then fail to deliver
Where has that happened before

[Cobnapint]

A few weeks ago Corbyn was just a threat to the future of the Labour Party.

Now the guy poses a real threat to the future of this country, it's that close.

Role on the boundary changes.

[Smiler.]

mercGLowner said:

Donkey Of The Damned said:

Except a General Election sometime in the next year isn't the most unlikely thing. And he has just taken the lead in the polls over the useless, inept Tories.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-cor...

I'm looking forward to incoming Labour government. Get this country back to its former glories.

Is this not an occasion when the PH crowd call 'custard' or something? One month membership of PH, one suspects you drew the short straw from Momentum central office to try and convert the PH massive.

Corbyn/Mcdonnell/Abbott et al and 'former glories'. What exactly are we talking about here?

Well, what the lefticles seem to have missed about the "glory days" is that there were fewer of them in the working week so that £10/hr will be a bit pointless when their payslip shows 65 quid.

[loafer123]

Cobnapint said:

A few weeks ago Corbyn was just a threat to the future of the Labour Party.

Now the guy poses a real threat to the future of this country, it's that close.

Role on the boundary changes.

Not going to happen without a decent parliamentary majority.

[Burwood]

One thing the labour lovies don't get. A material percentage of their own MPs think he's a loon. Let's say he got power. He won't be able to pass any of his controversial policies. I predict his appeal will disapate like a fart in the wind.

[Burwood]

One thing the labour lovies don't get. A material percentage of their own MPs think he's a loon. Let's say he got power. He won't be able to pass any of his controversial policies. I predict his appeal will disapate like a fart in the wind.

[gooner1]

techiedave said:

Use populism to get into power. Promise lots of stuff to be popular then fail to deliver
Where has that happened before

Any Manifesto. Ever.

[Stickyfinger]

gooner1 said:

Any Manifesto. Ever.

Not so by a WIDE margin

[gooner1]

Vron said:

http://www.somersetlive.co.uk/whats-on/glastonbury...

How strange, despite Eavis apparently conducting a Q&A interview, there is no narrative
supplied. Why on earth, or Somerset, would that be?

Edited by gooner1 on Monday 26th June 05:06

[BlackLabel]

Cobnapint said:

A few weeks ago Corbyn was just a threat to the future of the Labour Party.

Now the guy poses a real threat to the future of this country, it's that close.

Role on the boundary changes.

The boundary changes might not happen now.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-plans-g...

No one seems to know whether they need another vote in Parliament to push them through. If they do it's unlikely the PM would win such a vote.

[sidicks]

BlackLabel said:

The boundary changes might not happen now.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-plans-g...

No one seems to know whether they need another vote in Parliament to push them through. If they do it's unlikely the PM would win such a vote.

Interesting how the Mirror positions this as "Tory plans to gain election advantage by boundary changes 'dead in the water"

when in fact it should read "Tory plans to reduced their election disadvantage by boundary changes 'dead in the water"

[Donkey Of The Damned]

technodup said:

did wonder wtf he was on about. Bottom line is, forced to pay the same rate, 99% of employers are going to choose someone with more experience and maturity.

It's one of the arguments against the minimum wage in the first place. Some people simply aren't worth it. To take an extreme example, if you had a disabled person who could only work at half the speed of an able person, but would otherwise benefit from being in a workplace, earning, learning and contributing why should the employer pay them full rate? Measures like this reduce opportunities for disabled (and the young) which could be there if employers weren't held to ransom.

People at every other level of business are paid according to the value they bring. I don't see why that should be any different at the bottom end. Government simply deciding people are worth £x 'just because' isn't something I support. Let's be honest, if you can only find a job paying £5/hr it's not government you should be looking at...

First you were banging on about reliability and productivity and now it's experience and maturity. Why would somebody who is 25 necessarily have those traits over somebody younger?

If you're legally allowed to work, then you should be given exactly the same rights as anyone else in the workforce.

mercGLowner said:

Donkey Of The Damned said:

Except a General Election sometime in the next year isn't the most unlikely thing. And he has just taken the lead in the polls over the useless, inept Tories.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-cor...

I'm looking forward to incoming Labour government. Get this country back to its former glories.

Is this not an occasion when the PH crowd call 'custard' or something? One month membership of PH, one suspects you drew the short straw from Momentum central office to try and convert the PH massive.

Corbyn/Mcdonnell/Abbott et al and 'former glories'. What exactly are we talking about here?

In case you missed it, Jeremy Corbyn is the country's favourite to lead the country. The Tories are finished.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-cor...

Jockman said:

Donkey Of The Damned said:

Rich_W said:

mondeoman said:

By that graphic, Labour got a landslide victory.

YouGov are by far the worst of a truly shocking bunch. Not seen any of their polls actually indicate the accurate end result.

Incorrect. They were consistently showing the vote share gap to be more accurate to the end result and were the only polling organisation to call a Hung Parliament a week before it happened. They were pretty much spot on.

You are correct, JK. Welcome back.

IIRC they also showed a 60 seat Cons majority on the eve of the Manifesto launch.

Take that as you will.

JM, at the time the 60 seat majority was probably a fair reflection of the public mood before that god awful manifesto. Is there any other way to take it?

[Stickyfinger]

In case you missed it, Jeremy Corbyn is the country's favourite to lead the country. The Tories are finished. laugh

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-cor...
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How is that ANY more accurate or certain than the figures for Mrs May 1 year ago ?

[Donkey Of The Damned]

Stickyfinger said:

In case you missed it, Jeremy Corbyn is the country's favourite to lead the country. The Tories are finished. laugh

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-cor...
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How is that ANY more accurate or certain than the figures for Mrs May 1 year ago ?

Mrs May would have achieved what the polls were telling her had she not completely ballsed the whole thing up with an appalling campaign. It was so bad it was as if she wanted to lose.

Jezza is smarter than that. Barring a disaster, Labour will win the next election whenever that happens to be.

[alfie2244]

Donkey Of The Damned said:

Stickyfinger said:

In case you missed it, Jeremy Corbyn is the country's favourite to lead the country. The Tories are finished. laugh

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-cor...
____________________________________________________

How is that ANY more accurate or certain than the figures for Mrs May 1 year ago ?

Mrs May would have achieved what the polls were telling her had she not completely ballsed the whole thing up with an appalling campaign. It was so bad it was as if she wanted to lose.

Jezza is smarter than that. Barring a disaster, Labour will win the next election whenever that happens to be.

Different name same st eh eeyore.