Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2
Discussion
Efbe said:
any evidence of this?
Plenty. Read the BBC article on the last page or use google.In 2013 describing Chavez as "an inspiration to all of us fighting back against austerity and neoliberal economics in Europe”.
In 2013 "thanks Hugo Chavez for showing that the poor matter and wealth can be shared. He made massive contributions to Venezuela and a very wide world"
In 2014 phoned Maduro live on telly to congratulate him.
In 2015 "Venezuela gives every child a future, a school, a doctor- a chance"
This all despite this
What has happened to Venezuela simply cannot be defended but not only has it been defended it's been held up as a beacon of hope.
Efbe said:
um not really. He was speaking about Chavez following his death.
anything a bit less massively biased?
I'll let you find the video of Jeremy giving a speech into a loud hailer at the London vigil. It mentions that Chavez wanted everyone to have food, yep he did a cracking job there.anything a bit less massively biased?
Even the Guardian concedes that Venezuela is a disaster
Just because it doesn't agree with your crackpot politics doesn't make it biased.
djc206 said:
Efbe said:
any evidence of this?
Plenty. Read the BBC article on the last page or use google.In 2013 describing Chavez as "an inspiration to all of us fighting back against austerity and neoliberal economics in Europe”.
In 2013 "thanks Hugo Chavez for showing that the poor matter and wealth can be shared. He made massive contributions to Venezuela and a very wide world"
In 2014 phoned Maduro live on telly to congratulate him.
In 2015 "Venezuela gives every child a future, a school, a doctor- a chance"
This all despite this
What has happened to Venezuela simply cannot be defended but not only has it been defended it's been held up as a beacon of hope.
Of the comments you listed, the 2013 ones were following his death, in which Corbyn essentially did an obituary. So I am going to ignore these, it's not like he was going to say negative things at this point.
The 2014 thing, no idea. would need to see it to understand the context.
The 2015 thing, this has more meat to it. This doesn't mean he is supporting a dictatorship though, it just means they are giving children a chance in life, for which I don't have the knowledge to challenge/backup. However it clearly does show support for the way social support is given in Venezuela
When I google this it's hard to avoid the obviously biased sources. Whilst this is a biased one, I am ignoring the article and just listening to the clip of him talking on the subject:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/07/n...
That doesn't seem so radical to me?!?
Efbe said:
any evidence of this?
errrr THAT video.......again:-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSIQAKpaR20
Mr GrimNasty said:
yep, that's a lot more damning!So are the thoughts that he just didn't understand the violence under Chavez, or didn't care, or something else?
Edited by Efbe on Tuesday 8th August 14:30
Mr GrimNasty said:
Warning - may contain Abbott!Wait Here Until Green Light Shows said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Warning - may contain Abbott!Efbe said:
djc206 said:
Just because it doesn't agree with your crackpot politics doesn't make it biased.
Wow, this just about sums up PH. Ask for a source... and get called a crackpot. Awesome.Edited by princealbert23 on Tuesday 8th August 14:58
Efbe said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
yep, that's a lot more damning!So are the thoughts that he just didn't understand the violence under Chavez, or didn't care, or something else?
Edited by Efbe on Tuesday 8th August 14:30
All part of the revolution comrade.
Efbe said:
djc206 said:
Just because it doesn't agree with your crackpot politics doesn't make it biased.
Wow, this just about sums up PH. Ask for a source... and get called a crackpot. Awesome.
t about "free" childcare/education etc etc.Sway said:
Efbe said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
yep, that's a lot more damning!So are the thoughts that he just didn't understand the violence under Chavez, or didn't care, or something else?
Edited by Efbe on Tuesday 8th August 14:30
All part of the revolution comrade.
El Presidente Corbyn in 2004 said:
“And why do the US hate him so much?…It’s because they cannot cope with the threat of example all over Latin America. Because if you do it in Venezuela, you can do it anywhere else in the whole continent, and all those vested interests of the USA will then be under threat.”
So to Corbyn, Venezuela is a shining example to all true socialists, because its anti-capitalist economic miracle will be replicated all over South America and the US will be out of business.i expect now it'll have been the wrong sort of socialism though........
Slagathore said:
May as well post it here as it was linked from the other video.
Owen Jones
The pimple-faced skid mark was on R4's Any Questions on Friday.Owen Jones
His utterances remind me of the interactions from that early 90s role playing game Monkey Island.
He basically only ever conveys 5 opinions & "tories wah wah wah" features in every one of them.
It must be purgatory to wake up as him each day.
Smiler. said:
The pimple-faced skid mark was on R4's Any Questions on Friday.
His utterances remind me of the interactions from that early 90s role playing game Monkey Island.
He basically only ever conveys 5 opinions & "tories wah wah wah" features in every one of them.
It must be purgatory to wake up as him each day.
Hmm remind you of anyone here?His utterances remind me of the interactions from that early 90s role playing game Monkey Island.
He basically only ever conveys 5 opinions & "tories wah wah wah" features in every one of them.
It must be purgatory to wake up as him each day.
Smiler. said:
Slagathore said:
May as well post it here as it was linked from the other video.
Owen Jones
The pimple-faced skid mark was on R4's Any Questions on Friday.Owen Jones
His utterances remind me of the interactions from that early 90s role playing game Monkey Island.
He basically only ever conveys 5 opinions & "tories wah wah wah" features in every one of them.
It must be purgatory to wake up as him each day.
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