Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2

[mx5nut]

gizlaroc said:

The Brexit thing was scare mongering because it was "this could happen" with Corbyn it is "this will happen" so we know the result.

If only it were that easy for a new PM. Ask Theresa May how she's getting on implementing her pre-election ideas.

gizlaroc said:

How many Corbyn voters would still vote for him knowing their employer would go out of business and they would lose their jobs?
Because I think there are millions of them out there in this position who have no idea that they are.

He may not be to my taste, but I can accept that the sky will not fall if he is elected, despite the Project Fear attempts to say otherwise. We've had leftie governments before and we've been fine. Millions of people are not going to lose their job because a man with a beard gets the keys to number 10. Don't panic

[mx5nut]

jjlynn27 said:

So, now head of Czech service says that 'spy' is a liar, same as the archive person. Damn, those lefties must have dirt on everyone, everywhere.

Doesn't matter - people won't remember the correction. It doesn't fit the narrative.

[mx5nut]

It's hard to avoid the feeling that some here are positively looking forward to a Corbyn government they can blame all the pitfalls of Brexit on.

"Oh well we would have made a success of Brexit (voted for correctly by the will of the people who had full access to the facts and knew exactly what they were voting for) but the real reason businesses are fleeing the country is that Corbyn is PM (people were tricked in to voting by fake news and had no idea about the consequences of their vote)."

[andymadmak]

mx5nut said:

We've had leftie governments before and we've been fine.

Can you give an example? I can't think of a single one that hasn't left office leaving the economy in turmoil

[Gargamel]

mx5nut said:

Doesn't matter - people won't remember the correction. It doesn't fit the narrative.

Corbyn supporters sound more and more like Trump supporters everyday.

We have had "change is coming " which sounds a lot like "we will drain the swamp"

Now we are getting Corbyn saying the Mass Media is printing lies about him to smear him - very Trumpesque

Finally we have this weird stuff about "narrative"

Corbyn has met with all sorts of people in his career as an agitprop communist. Which is fine, but he can hardly complain when these are exposed in the media. In 1986 Corbyn would have thought he had more chance of being the next Queen, than Labour Party leader.

[mx5nut]

sidicks said:

It’s hard to avoid the feeling that you are an ignorant troll that is wrong about almost everything.

Please don't try to derail yet another thread with your name calling and abuse. It's tiresome.

[mx5nut]

Gargamel said:

mx5nut said:

Doesn't matter - people won't remember the correction. It doesn't fit the narrative.

Corbyn supporters

I'm no Corbyn supporter - I just like fake news a little less than him

[andy_s]

mx5nut said:

It's hard to avoid the feeling that some here are positively looking forward to a Corbyn government they can blame all the pitfalls of Brexit on.

"Oh well we would have made a success of Brexit (voted for correctly by the will of the people who had full access to the facts and knew exactly what they were voting for) but the real reason businesses are fleeing the country is that Corbyn is PM (people were tricked in to voting by fake news and had no idea about the consequences of their vote)."

And conversely I suppose if JC get's into power and starts to communise the country, any failing business and economic strife can be pinned on the Brexit donkey.

It's win-win really.

MBGA...

[Rovinghawk]

mx5nut said:

We've had leftie governments before and we've been fine.

Ever hear tell of the Winter of Discontent?

Ever hear anything about the huge deficit built up under the last Labour government, plus PFI commitments, unfunded pension commitments for the massively expanded public sector?

There are so very many other examples available- start with Stephen Byers attempting to confiscate private property & losing in court 3 times.

[sidicks]

mx5nut said:

Please don't try to derail yet another thread with your name calling and abuse. It's tiresome.

Please don’t continue to derail another thread with your ignorant ‘Brexiter generalisations’ and ‘project fear’ sound bites. It’s tiresome.

Edited by sidicks on Thursday 22 February 10:30

[jjlynn27]

Gargamel said:

Corbyn supporters sound more and more like Trump supporters everyday.

We have had "change is coming " which sounds a lot like "we will drain the swamp"

Now we are getting Corbyn saying the Mass Media is printing lies about him to smear him - very Trumpesque

Finally we have this weird stuff about "narrative"

Corbyn has met with all sorts of people in his career as an agitprop communist. Which is fine, but he can hardly complain when these are exposed in the media. In 1986 Corbyn would have thought he had more chance of being the next Queen, than Labour Party leader.

This is not 'Corbyn complaining', it's Andrew Neil, who you'd have to be particularly thick to think of as 'Corbyn supporter' grilling a minister on accusations;

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2018/fe...

Corbyn, imo, is a tool and would be an unmitigated disaster for UK as a PM. But Sun 'revelation' and people who unquestioningly jumped up on 'omg traitor' bandwagon, are now looking a bit thick. To put it mildly.

[anonymous-user]

Gargamel said:

mx5nut said:

Doesn't matter - people won't remember the correction. It doesn't fit the narrative.

Corbyn supporters sound more and more like Trump supporters everyday.

We have had "change is coming " which sounds a lot like "we will drain the swamp"

Now we are getting Corbyn saying the Mass Media is printing lies about him to smear him - very Trumpesque

Finally we have this weird stuff about "narrative"

Corbyn has met with all sorts of people in his career as an agitprop communist. Which is fine, but he can hardly complain when these are exposed in the media. In 1986 Corbyn would have thought he had more chance of being the next Queen, than Labour Party leader.

I agree, there are many parallels between the two. Labour though have often used the change banner after a few years if conservatives. Tony Blair’s “things can only get better” mantra was a recent example.

I can see the vote change tag being a vote winner after a few more years of conservative infighting over Europe, much like the end of the Major government.

In many ways though Corbyn’s rise to near power has been more remarkable than Trumps because he’s been around doing nothing much for so long.

It seems very unlikely he represents a bright future when he’s been part of the establishment in the background for decades, aparently achieving little and has economic theories that seem to be of the past.

Love or hate Trump, he was and still is an outsider and appears to be trying something different.

[turbobloke]

Corbyn owes something (not in monetary terms) to conservatives forking out a few quid to vote him in, something now being portrayed as a shot in the foot. How much is debatable. Like the other Foot in Labour's list of unelectables, Corbyn is a loser once and about to be a loser again. I didn't pay up btw.

[Justayellowbadge]

turbobloke said:

Corbyn owes something (not in monetary terms) to conservatives forking out a few quid to vote him in, something now being portrayed as a shot in the foot. How much is debatable. Like the other Foot in Labour's list of unelectables, Corbyn is a loser once and about to be a loser again. I didn't pay up btw.

IIRC the 3 quid votes had no impact on the vote. He'd have won comprehensively if they weren't counted.

[turbobloke]

Justayellowbadge said:

turbobloke said:

Corbyn owes something (not in monetary terms) to conservatives forking out a few quid to vote him in, something now being portrayed as a shot in the foot. How much is debatable. Like the other Foot in Labour's list of unelectables, Corbyn is a loser once and about to be a loser again. I didn't pay up btw.

IIRC the 3 quid votes had no impact on the vote. He'd have won comprehensively if they weren't counted.

OK thanks so the relevant feet remain unshot either way.

JC has been czechmated in so many ways, one less won't make any difference.

[Jordan210]

Iv noticed there is a lot more negative response to social media posts when replying to Corbyn.

Before the election it was always positives. With tons of "likes and shares" and the replies all praising him.

This doesn't seam to be the trend at the moment. a lot more negative responses.

[BigMon]

Corbyn waiting at Dover to give signal to Czechoslovakian invaders

[Mothersruin]

andymadmak said:

mx5nut said:

We've had leftie governments before and we've been fine.

Can you give an example? I can't think of a single one that hasn't left office leaving the economy in turmoil

Ah, but they haven't implemented socialism properly. Not like the next lot will.

[Mark Benson]

jjlynn27 said:

Makr Benson said:

Mock? You haven't the wit.

This from the angry numpty who needs to edit others posts to try to make a point? Bless.

QED

[zygalski]

Mothersruin said:

andymadmak said:

mx5nut said:

We've had leftie governments before and we've been fine.

Can you give an example? I can't think of a single one that hasn't left office leaving the economy in turmoil

Ah, but they haven't implemented socialism properly. Not like the next lot will.

Well the Tories are doing a fine job of fking virtually everything up at the moment.
A difficult act for a future Labour government to follow indeed.