Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2

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T6 vanman

3,066 posts

99 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Those in work


Many years of socialist government evening out the wealth divide by making people unemployed smile

gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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AstonZagato said:
gadgetmac said:
You wont go. Tell you what, PM me if Corbyn gets in and I’ll give £100 to the charity of your choice if you do go. I’ll even drive you to the airport free of charge. biggrin

https://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2016/05/26/do...

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2011/04/29/1358...

Its bullst spouted by predominantly tory voters as some kind of threat that the electorate better not vote against their interests or they’ll take their ball and go and play elsewhere.

They never do, they never will. There are a few high paid workers here and there that might but the numbers are inconsequential.

In fact more of the lower paid workers leave than the higher paid ones:

https://unherd.com/the-feed-blog/rich-wont-leave-e...
I will if I can persuade the wife to go.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Going back in a month’s time.

Also, check out Guy Hands, Mike Platt, Alan Howard, Peter de Putron. When these guys left they took big parts of their employees with them.

Yeah but it’s all a bluff
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You’ve named 4 rofl I’ve posted research that shows the vast majority don’t.

Like I said, PM me, my cab awaits biggrin

You won’t though... I’ll bet £500 on it.

gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Zod said:
gadgetmac said:
So, these “rich”, do they all suddenly down tools and stop trying to make money? Or do they redouble their efforts in order to earn even more money so as to offset the increase in the additional tax they are being asked to pay?

It’s unthinkable that people of that mindset would be so demoralised by an increase in taxation that they’d abandon their entreprenurial instincts.

It’s like the tired old myth that they’d leave the UK in droves. If it were true we’d be swamped with French wealth makers ourselves.
You clearly don't live in London; it's absolutely full of French high earners.
Er, I lived in London for 40 years.

Yes, but they’re employees. Their companies have relocated due to the onerous Corporate taxes.

And whilst they’ve moved here the French economy still equals the Uk economy, so what does that tell you about the impact on the home economy when they leave?



Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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gadgetmac said:
Er, I lived in London for 40 years.

Yes, but they’re employees. Their companies have relocated due to the onerous Corporate taxes.

And whilst they’ve moved here the French economy still equals the Uk economy, so what does that tell you about the impact on the home economy when they leave?
For 40years until when? This is a 2012- onwards phenomenon.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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gadgetmac said:
I’ve posted research that shows the vast majority don’t.
No, you've posted research that US millionaires, subject to US federal taxes regardless of where they live, don't move state to avoid a small fraction of their tax bill. Quite what you think that has to do with Brit's moving to halve or eliminate their tax bill entirely is anyone's guess. It's a pity you didn't make your bet with me, I could have done with the lift to Heathrow.

irocfan

40,439 posts

190 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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gadgetmac said:
You’ve named 4 rofl I’ve posted research that shows the vast majority don’t.
The last time labour tried to "...tax them til the pips squeak.." there was indeed an outflux of people (remember the brain drain?) and this was before it was common to travel anywhere on a whim.

Those are facts

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Not to mention that Labour were planning what to do about capital flight if they got in.


anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Bullett said:
Not to mention that Labour were planning what to do about capital flight if they got in.
You can join that distinguished list of countries with currency controls.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Bullett said:
Not to mention that Labour were planning what to do about capital flight if they got in.
Really given all the dire press about the Torres this year policy U turns etc in normal world it would be beyond belief for the main opposition not be be 10]-20 points ahead in the polls.

And yet that isn’t he case at all instead they are neck and neck with Torys just edging it with the polls moving towards Torres for a long time.

Why is this?

Maybe “for the many not he few” the actual policy is “for the few (his loyal supporters) not the many”

Henners

12,230 posts

194 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Maybe “for the many not he few” the actual policy is “for the few (his loyal supporters) not the many”
I guessed some numbers and put them into the IFS ‘where do you fit in’ calculator for good ol’ Jezza.

Real basic, using guesstimates for his pay and pension. Deffo one of the few.


98elise

26,593 posts

161 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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irocfan said:
gadgetmac said:
You’ve named 4 rofl I’ve posted research that shows the vast majority don’t.
The last time labour tried to "...tax them til the pips squeak.." there was indeed an outflux of people (remember the brain drain?) and this was before it was common to travel anywhere on a whim.

Those are facts
Yup. My father was part of the drain. He left the UK to work in the middle east. He ended up spending 25 years as an ex-pat.

I'm planning for a possible exit if Corbyn gets in. His policies are highly likely to have a significant impact on my income (property and the gig economy)

The world is a much smaller place these days. My family is spread across the world, as are a lot of my friends. Fortunately my skills is in demand abroad so I'm more than happy to move somewhere better (with better weather ideally !)



Edited by 98elise on Friday 27th April 12:31

Trolleys Thank You

872 posts

81 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Q1 GDP growth at 0.1% announced today continues the Tories piss poor financial record. Looking forward to seeing how this one can be spun to #BlameLabour.

RichB

51,572 posts

284 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Trolleys Thank You said:
Q1 GDP growth at 0.1% announced today continues the Tories piss poor financial record. Looking forward to seeing how this one can be spun to #BlameLabour.


Financial management is not the best angle to attack the Tories! rofl

Trolleys Thank You

872 posts

81 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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RichB said:


Financial management is not the best angle to attack the Tories! rofl
Oh ok, more deflection... It is a fair angle of attack. They've been in power for 8 years. GDP should really be a bit higher by now.

djc206

12,350 posts

125 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Trolleys Thank You said:
Q1 GDP growth at 0.1% announced today continues the Tories piss poor financial record. Looking forward to seeing how this one can be spun to #BlameLabour.
It can’t but would Labour have done any better?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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djc206 said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
Q1 GDP growth at 0.1% announced today continues the Tories piss poor financial record. Looking forward to seeing how this one can be spun to #BlameLabour.
It can’t but would Labour have done any better?
Of course not. And at least borrowing is significantly down. That wouldn’t happen under Labour either.






Trolleys Thank You

872 posts

81 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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djc206 said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
Q1 GDP growth at 0.1% announced today continues the Tories piss poor financial record. Looking forward to seeing how this one can be spun to #BlameLabour.
It can’t but would Labour have done any better?
Probably. Labour at least seem more committed to getting the country growing again. The Conservatives have been resigned for a while now to stagnation in national growth, pay and productivity while living costs and personal debt levels rise.

They need a kick up the backside but instead we let them off the hook whenever they shift the blame.

djc206

12,350 posts

125 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Trolleys Thank You said:
Probably. Labour at least seem more committed to getting the country growing again. The Conservatives have been resigned for a while now to stagnation in national growth, pay and productivity while living costs and personal debt levels rise.

They need a kick up the backside but instead we let them off the hook whenever they shift the blame.
How are they committed to growing anything? Everything we hear from them is anti business and anti wealth, that’s the opposite of wanting to grow. The only things they seem to be concerned with growing are the welfare state, taxes and debt.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Trolleys Thank You said:
Labour at least seem more committed to getting the country growing again.
Actually they seem to oppose every action to fix the damaged economy. They want to borrow more to give free stuff to everybody; I'd hardly call that growing the economy.

Henners

12,230 posts

194 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Rovinghawk said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
Labour at least seem more committed to getting the country growing again.
Actually they seem to oppose every action to fix the damaged economy. They want to borrow more to give free stuff to everybody; I'd hardly call that growing the economy.
I'm sure TTY is willing to explain the how...
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