Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2
Discussion
Trolleys Thank You said:
motco said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
andymadmak said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
lol. Comedy post.
Are you able to point out the inaccuracies that you perceive it contains?The first sentence for example. "The shadow chancellor has said he wants to bring down capitalism." Pmsl. I'd love to see the evidence to back up that claim.
McDonnell's Who's Who entry said:
His Who's Who entry states that his life's purpose is to “foment the overthrow of capitalism”
Good enough squire?Haven't you seen the footage of him saying he's a Marxist and that the financial meltdown of 2007 was what he's always been waiting for? The collapse of the Western system! You cannot be remotely serious in lauding this man!
motco said:
How in God's name is quoting the words of the man himself, entered into his own Who's Who profile, to be considered out of context?
Haven't you seen the footage of him saying he's a Marxist and that the financial meltdown of 2007 was what he's always been waiting for? The collapse of the Western system! You cannot be remotely serious in lauding this man!
He's since said he regrets the 07 comments. Not perfect but this country would be better off with him in charge than the Tories who are doing very little for the economy.Haven't you seen the footage of him saying he's a Marxist and that the financial meltdown of 2007 was what he's always been waiting for? The collapse of the Western system! You cannot be remotely serious in lauding this man!
Trolleys Thank You said:
motco said:
How in God's name is quoting the words of the man himself, entered into his own Who's Who profile, to be considered out of context?
Haven't you seen the footage of him saying he's a Marxist and that the financial meltdown of 2007 was what he's always been waiting for? The collapse of the Western system! You cannot be remotely serious in lauding this man!
He's since said he regrets the 07 comments. Not perfect but this country would be better off with him in charge than the Tories who are doing very little for the economy.Haven't you seen the footage of him saying he's a Marxist and that the financial meltdown of 2007 was what he's always been waiting for? The collapse of the Western system! You cannot be remotely serious in lauding this man!
motco said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
motco said:
How in God's name is quoting the words of the man himself, entered into his own Who's Who profile, to be considered out of context?
Haven't you seen the footage of him saying he's a Marxist and that the financial meltdown of 2007 was what he's always been waiting for? The collapse of the Western system! You cannot be remotely serious in lauding this man!
He's since said he regrets the 07 comments. Not perfect but this country would be better off with him in charge than the Tories who are doing very little for the economy.Haven't you seen the footage of him saying he's a Marxist and that the financial meltdown of 2007 was what he's always been waiting for? The collapse of the Western system! You cannot be remotely serious in lauding this man!
Telling isn’t it.
Henners said:
motco said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
motco said:
How in God's name is quoting the words of the man himself, entered into his own Who's Who profile, to be considered out of context?
Haven't you seen the footage of him saying he's a Marxist and that the financial meltdown of 2007 was what he's always been waiting for? The collapse of the Western system! You cannot be remotely serious in lauding this man!
He's since said he regrets the 07 comments. Not perfect but this country would be better off with him in charge than the Tories who are doing very little for the economy.Haven't you seen the footage of him saying he's a Marxist and that the financial meltdown of 2007 was what he's always been waiting for? The collapse of the Western system! You cannot be remotely serious in lauding this man!
Telling isn’t it.
Trolleys Thank You said:
He's since said he regrets the 07 comments. Not perfect but this country would be better off with him in charge than the Tories who are doing very little for the economy.
They've done a lot for the economy, we can't see much of it because they are still digging us out of the sthole mess that the last 'moderate' Labour lot left us to clear up. That's why. And you want a harder Labour/Socialist to now take over to dig faster and deeper? Have you taken complete leave of your senses?nikaiyo2 said:
I think you are tarring him with the same idiot brush as Corbyn, JMD is not a fool. He understands what borrowing is, he understands the consequence of borrowing, he just does not care that it will make people poorer.
It will speed up the workers paradise so its a price worth paying. He is a true socialist, you me and everyone else is irrelevant, our wealth and happiness are secondary to following a failed ideology.
Did they ever elaborate on the "plans" they had made for the capital flight should they take power?
He is an evil man, him in power is truly terrifying.
No, I think JMD has his own idiot brush. This is the man who didn't think issuing government bonds would increase debt.It will speed up the workers paradise so its a price worth paying. He is a true socialist, you me and everyone else is irrelevant, our wealth and happiness are secondary to following a failed ideology.
Did they ever elaborate on the "plans" they had made for the capital flight should they take power?
He is an evil man, him in power is truly terrifying.
andy_s said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
He's since said he regrets the 07 comments. Not perfect but this country would be better off with him in charge than the Tories who are doing very little for the economy.
They've done a lot for the economy, we can't see much of it because they are still digging us out of the sthole mess that the last 'moderate' Labour lot left us to clear up. That's why. And you want a harder Labour/Socialist to now take over to dig faster and deeper? Have you taken complete leave of your senses?98elise said:
Socialism has history of fking up economies and making the lives of all its inmates st. That's why they end with boarder guards shooting people who want to leave.
See earlier comment about Socialism and Capitalism not being universal absolutes. We have had socialism working in our economy already for decades and has benefitted many millions of people. Your comment doesn't stack up.andy_s said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
He's since said he regrets the 07 comments. Not perfect but this country would be better off with him in charge than the Tories who are doing very little for the economy.
They've done a lot for the economy, we can't see much of it because they are still digging us out of the sthole mess that the last 'moderate' Labour lot left us to clear up. That's why. And you want a harder Labour/Socialist to now take over to dig faster and deeper? Have you taken complete leave of your senses?Trolleys Thank You said:
andy_s said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
He's since said he regrets the 07 comments. Not perfect but this country would be better off with him in charge than the Tories who are doing very little for the economy.
They've done a lot for the economy, we can't see much of it because they are still digging us out of the sthole mess that the last 'moderate' Labour lot left us to clear up. That's why. And you want a harder Labour/Socialist to now take over to dig faster and deeper? Have you taken complete leave of your senses?Plenty of people have quoted Keynesian theory that you should spend out of a recession. The glaring elephant in the room however is that Keynes *also* said you should save when the times were good so you *could* spend your way out of a recession. That was what Labour utterly failed to do and so when the sub prime mortgage crisis fked things up the kitty was bare *and* we had a massive amount of spending that we'd agreed to and couldn't easily/quickly be cut.
So no, the crash was not Labours fault, that we were in an utterly st position to deal with it and recover quickly afterwards is 100% on them.
Edited by Fastdruid on Friday 27th April 16:34
Trolleys Thank You said:
motco said:
How in God's name is quoting the words of the man himself, entered into his own Who's Who profile, to be considered out of context?
Haven't you seen the footage of him saying he's a Marxist and that the financial meltdown of 2007 was what he's always been waiting for? The collapse of the Western system! You cannot be remotely serious in lauding this man!
He's since said he regrets the 07 comments. Not perfect but this country would be better off with him in charge than the Tories who are doing very little for the economy.Haven't you seen the footage of him saying he's a Marxist and that the financial meltdown of 2007 was what he's always been waiting for? The collapse of the Western system! You cannot be remotely serious in lauding this man!
Come on. Give your credulous little head a wobble.
He's very obviously telling you a rather transparent, and very cynical, little fib.
Fastdruid said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
andy_s said:
Trolleys Thank You said:
He's since said he regrets the 07 comments. Not perfect but this country would be better off with him in charge than the Tories who are doing very little for the economy.
They've done a lot for the economy, we can't see much of it because they are still digging us out of the sthole mess that the last 'moderate' Labour lot left us to clear up. That's why. And you want a harder Labour/Socialist to now take over to dig faster and deeper? Have you taken complete leave of your senses?Plenty of people have quoted Keynesian theory that you should spend out of a recession. The glaring elephant in the room however is that Keynes *also* said you should save when the times were good so you *could* spend your way out of a recession. That was what Labour utterly failed to do and so when the sub prime mortgage crisis fked things up the kitty was bare *and* we had a massive amount of spending that we'd agreed to and couldn't easily/quickly be cut.
So no, the crash was not Labours fault, that we were in an utterly st position to deal with it and recover quickly afterwards is 100% on them.
SpeckledJim said:
So at 57 years of age, he wanted to see the downfall of capitalist society. But now he's had an old-age epiphany and he has changed his mind and today he's all about protecting the capitalist economy instead?
Come on. Give your credulous little head a wobble.
He's very obviously telling you a rather transparent, and very cynical, little fib.
When faced with the realities of office, politicians very often become more moderate. No reason the Labour party couldn't make a real success of running the country. Roll on 5th May 2022.Come on. Give your credulous little head a wobble.
He's very obviously telling you a rather transparent, and very cynical, little fib.
Trolleys Thank You said:
SpeckledJim said:
So at 57 years of age, he wanted to see the downfall of capitalist society. But now he's had an old-age epiphany and he has changed his mind and today he's all about protecting the capitalist economy instead?
Come on. Give your credulous little head a wobble.
He's very obviously telling you a rather transparent, and very cynical, little fib.
When faced with the realities of office, politicians very often become more moderate. No reason the Labour party couldn't make a real success of running the country. Roll on 5th May 2022.Come on. Give your credulous little head a wobble.
He's very obviously telling you a rather transparent, and very cynical, little fib.
Trolleys Thank You said:
"The shadow chancellor has said he wants to bring down capitalism." Pmsl. I'd love to see the evidence to back up that claim.
You get the evidence & then:Trolleys Thank You said:
He's since said he regrets the 07 comments.
Weaseling out, much?Trolleys Thank You said:
Not perfect
Not perfect? He's a walking disaster.Trolleys Thank You said:
but this country would be better off with him in charge than the Tories who are doing very little for the economy.
Very little including reducing the deficit despite Labour's attempt to block them at every turn?Edited by Rovinghawk on Friday 27th April 17:30
Trolleys Thank You said:
When faced with the realities of office, politicians very often become more moderate.
So you accept they're not currently moderate?
Trolleys Thank You said:
No reason the Labour party couldn't make a real success of running the country.
How about because they're economically illiterate & will prioritise socialist dogma over reality?Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff