Discussion
BlackLabel said:
She's on LBC at 7pm answering questions from Nick Ferrari and listeners.
Worth a listen. I'm ex-Police and not a TM fan, but she had polite but negative public callers and Ferrari himself who started off with a personal question about her being childless and she did ok. I wouldn't say any better than that because she didn't give much in the way of actual answers and without her husband she'd reverted to sounding quite uncomfortable, but she did sound statesmanlike and her ability to quote figures in response to questions gave an air of competence that is missing from the opposition.
I'm looking forward to seeing the other leaders performances, but I suspect the election could be held tomorrow and the majority of people will have made their mind up on gut instinct about the Corbyn/Abbott/McDonnell dream team and the next four weeks is a waste of time.
Anyone got any thoughts on how May's doing this campaign?
I personally wonder if she's trying to throw the election to get out of carrying the can for Brexit.
Cameron crushed Milliband by going for the centre, May seems to be providing a choice of a right wing dystopia, a left wing dystopia or another Brexit referendum.
I personally wonder if she's trying to throw the election to get out of carrying the can for Brexit.
Cameron crushed Milliband by going for the centre, May seems to be providing a choice of a right wing dystopia, a left wing dystopia or another Brexit referendum.
London424 said:
I think it is/was just over confidence. The other parties are complete train wrecks so she's made a choice to get stuff that needs fixing on the agenda, that in a normal election race wouldn't be touched.
Agree with this.She was far in the lead, all the other contenders were no-hopers. She decided that she could afford to piss people off, so she did, and now this happens.
I must say, the Tory campaign has been hopeless. A lazy, arrogant campaign based on a dull, uninspiring slogan. No vision, no passion. I am sure they will win, but I don't think their majority will be as big as some people are making out.
AmitG said:
I am sure they will win, but I don't think their majority will be as big as some people are making out.
I don't think this is a bad thing. I do not want that authoritarian bitch having the freedom to pass too many of her rather less than savory policies without serious scrutiny.Einion Yrth said:
AmitG said:
I am sure they will win, but I don't think their majority will be as big as some people are making out.
I don't think this is a bad thing. I do not want that authoritarian bitch having the freedom to pass too many of her rather less than savory policies without serious scrutiny.So she's had one day of what Corbyn has had to put up for the last 18 months and she has completely fallen apart. Whilst he has survived months of media onslaught, whether you like him or not, you have to admire his durability! Whilst Theresa? Not sure I'd want her near any difficult negotiations after this showing!
Yidwann said:
So she's had one day of what Corbyn has had to put up for the last 18 months and she has completely fallen apart. Whilst he has survived months of media onslaught, whether you like him or not, you have to admire his durability! Whilst Theresa? Not sure I'd want her near any difficult negotiations after this showing!
Frustrated yes, rattled maybe but I didn't detect that May had 'completely fallen apart' - that is a bit of hyperbole (or, perhaps, wishful thinking).I do recall Corbyn getting more than a little peeved during interviews and walk about when questioned/challenged.
Do you really think that May will be involved in each and every negotiation session? Besides which, she will be able to give as good as she gets in negotiation sessions. I do a lot of both (facing open/public questioning with audiences and difficult/complex negotiations) and they are completely different environments.
loafer123 said:
On the one hand it is rather charming how badly they handle the politics, but FFS, can she not just say "we are going to consult on..." in front of major policy changes?
She'll have five years to sort it out.
She'll have five years to sort it out.
What, like Fallon said last Thursday evening I think it was, just after the policy was announced?
Asked on the BBC news R4 at 5.00pm what was going to happen with this new policy he replied that many of the details weren't settled but would be consulted on during the parliament.
Garvin said:
Frustrated yes, rattled maybe but I didn't detect that May had 'completely fallen apart' - that is a bit of hyperbole (or, perhaps, wishful thinking).
I do recall Corbyn getting more than a little peeved during interviews and walk about when questioned/challenged.
Do you really think that May will be involved in each and every negotiation session? Besides which, she will be able to give as good as she gets in negotiation sessions. I do a lot of both (facing open/public questioning with audiences and difficult/complex negotiations) and they are completely different environments.
You seem to be the only person saying it wasn't a fairly woeful performance.I do recall Corbyn getting more than a little peeved during interviews and walk about when questioned/challenged.
Do you really think that May will be involved in each and every negotiation session? Besides which, she will be able to give as good as she gets in negotiation sessions. I do a lot of both (facing open/public questioning with audiences and difficult/complex negotiations) and they are completely different environments.
Yidwann said:
So she's had one day of what Corbyn has had to put up for the last 18 months and she has completely fallen apart. Whilst he has survived months of media onslaught, whether you like him or not, you have to admire his durability! Whilst Theresa? Not sure I'd want her near any difficult negotiations after this showing!
Maybe it's easier to 'survive' when you just don't face up to questioning. I've lost count of the number of times Corbyn has blanked journalists, unless he was fully prepared to repeat his dogma ad nauseum, whilst ignoring the questions being put to himThat's not surviving, it's avoiding responsibilty, something which he and his party are very good at.
MarshPhantom said:
Garvin said:
Frustrated yes, rattled maybe but I didn't detect that May had 'completely fallen apart' - that is a bit of hyperbole (or, perhaps, wishful thinking).
I do recall Corbyn getting more than a little peeved during interviews and walk about when questioned/challenged.
Do you really think that May will be involved in each and every negotiation session? Besides which, she will be able to give as good as she gets in negotiation sessions. I do a lot of both (facing open/public questioning with audiences and difficult/complex negotiations) and they are completely different environments.
You seem to be the only person saying it wasn't a fairly woeful performance.I do recall Corbyn getting more than a little peeved during interviews and walk about when questioned/challenged.
Do you really think that May will be involved in each and every negotiation session? Besides which, she will be able to give as good as she gets in negotiation sessions. I do a lot of both (facing open/public questioning with audiences and difficult/complex negotiations) and they are completely different environments.
Was it a great performance? No, I never said it was, not even good. It was however, not a 'completely fallen apart' performance as evidenced by some of the media commentaries on it.
Garvin said:
Then again, perhaps I'm the only person who can see it for what it really was and doesn't get all frothy at the mouth trying to persuade others it was something it wasn't.
Was it a great performance? No, I never said it was, not even good. It was however, not a 'completely fallen apart' performance as evidenced by some of the media commentaries on it.
She isn't Churchill or even Thatcher but she certainly isn't flaky either. She may not be the most natural of politicians and maybe that's what is good about her. She is doing fine continuing with 47 % in the Polls with Corbyn at about 33-35% . Don't get the focus on her rather than a Labour leader who is way off the pace by any standardWas it a great performance? No, I never said it was, not even good. It was however, not a 'completely fallen apart' performance as evidenced by some of the media commentaries on it.
johnxjsc1985 said:
Garvin said:
Then again, perhaps I'm the only person who can see it for what it really was and doesn't get all frothy at the mouth trying to persuade others it was something it wasn't.
Was it a great performance? No, I never said it was, not even good. It was however, not a 'completely fallen apart' performance as evidenced by some of the media commentaries on it.
She isn't Churchill or even Thatcher but she certainly isn't flaky either. She may not be the most natural of politicians and maybe that's what is good about her. She is doing fine continuing with 47 % in the Polls with Corbyn at about 33-35% . Don't get the focus on her rather than a Labour leader who is way off the pace by any standardWas it a great performance? No, I never said it was, not even good. It was however, not a 'completely fallen apart' performance as evidenced by some of the media commentaries on it.
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