Theresa May

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brenflys777

2,678 posts

178 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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BlackLabel said:
She's on LBC at 7pm answering questions from Nick Ferrari and listeners.
Worth a listen.

I'm ex-Police and not a TM fan, but she had polite but negative public callers and Ferrari himself who started off with a personal question about her being childless and she did ok. I wouldn't say any better than that because she didn't give much in the way of actual answers and without her husband she'd reverted to sounding quite uncomfortable, but she did sound statesmanlike and her ability to quote figures in response to questions gave an air of competence that is missing from the opposition.

I'm looking forward to seeing the other leaders performances, but I suspect the election could be held tomorrow and the majority of people will have made their mind up on gut instinct about the Corbyn/Abbott/McDonnell dream team and the next four weeks is a waste of time.

glazbagun

14,281 posts

198 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Anyone got any thoughts on how May's doing this campaign?

I personally wonder if she's trying to throw the election to get out of carrying the can for Brexit.

Cameron crushed Milliband by going for the centre, May seems to be providing a choice of a right wing dystopia, a left wing dystopia or another Brexit referendum.


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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If she's NOT trying to throw the election, and is doing this because she thinks it will help her win... Well, I just don't know what to say.

s3fella

10,524 posts

188 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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glazbagun said:


I personally wonder if she's trying to throw the election to get out of carrying the can for Brexit.

me too

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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glazbagun said:
Anyone got any thoughts on how May's doing this campaign?
I suppose we can only judge when it's all played out but so far possibly the worst campaign I can remember.

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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I think it is/was just over confidence. The other parties are complete train wrecks so she's made a choice to get stuff that needs fixing on the agenda, that in a normal election race wouldn't be touched.

AmitG

3,300 posts

161 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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London424 said:
I think it is/was just over confidence. The other parties are complete train wrecks so she's made a choice to get stuff that needs fixing on the agenda, that in a normal election race wouldn't be touched.
Agree with this.

She was far in the lead, all the other contenders were no-hopers. She decided that she could afford to piss people off, so she did, and now this happens.

I must say, the Tory campaign has been hopeless. A lazy, arrogant campaign based on a dull, uninspiring slogan. No vision, no passion. I am sure they will win, but I don't think their majority will be as big as some people are making out.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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AmitG said:
I am sure they will win, but I don't think their majority will be as big as some people are making out.
I don't think this is a bad thing. I do not want that authoritarian bitch having the freedom to pass too many of her rather less than savory policies without serious scrutiny.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Einion Yrth said:
AmitG said:
I am sure they will win, but I don't think their majority will be as big as some people are making out.
I don't think this is a bad thing. I do not want that authoritarian bitch having the freedom to pass too many of her rather less than savory policies without serious scrutiny.
Agreed but it would be better if we actually had an opposition leader and front bench with a bit more nouse and credibility.

tescorank

1,997 posts

232 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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On the one hand it is rather charming how badly they handle the politics, but FFS, can she not just say "we are going to consult on..." in front of major policy changes?

She'll have five years to sort it out.

Yidwann

1,872 posts

211 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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So she's had one day of what Corbyn has had to put up for the last 18 months and she has completely fallen apart. Whilst he has survived months of media onslaught, whether you like him or not, you have to admire his durability! Whilst Theresa? Not sure I'd want her near any difficult negotiations after this showing!

Garvin

5,185 posts

178 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Yidwann said:
So she's had one day of what Corbyn has had to put up for the last 18 months and she has completely fallen apart. Whilst he has survived months of media onslaught, whether you like him or not, you have to admire his durability! Whilst Theresa? Not sure I'd want her near any difficult negotiations after this showing!
Frustrated yes, rattled maybe but I didn't detect that May had 'completely fallen apart' - that is a bit of hyperbole (or, perhaps, wishful thinking).

I do recall Corbyn getting more than a little peeved during interviews and walk about when questioned/challenged.

Do you really think that May will be involved in each and every negotiation session? Besides which, she will be able to give as good as she gets in negotiation sessions. I do a lot of both (facing open/public questioning with audiences and difficult/complex negotiations) and they are completely different environments.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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loafer123 said:
On the one hand it is rather charming how badly they handle the politics, but FFS, can she not just say "we are going to consult on..." in front of major policy changes?

She'll have five years to sort it out.

What, like Fallon said last Thursday evening I think it was, just after the policy was announced?

Asked on the BBC news R4 at 5.00pm what was going to happen with this new policy he replied that many of the details weren't settled but would be consulted on during the parliament.


MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Garvin said:
Frustrated yes, rattled maybe but I didn't detect that May had 'completely fallen apart' - that is a bit of hyperbole (or, perhaps, wishful thinking).

I do recall Corbyn getting more than a little peeved during interviews and walk about when questioned/challenged.

Do you really think that May will be involved in each and every negotiation session? Besides which, she will be able to give as good as she gets in negotiation sessions. I do a lot of both (facing open/public questioning with audiences and difficult/complex negotiations) and they are completely different environments.
You seem to be the only person saying it wasn't a fairly woeful performance.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Yidwann said:
So she's had one day of what Corbyn has had to put up for the last 18 months and she has completely fallen apart. Whilst he has survived months of media onslaught, whether you like him or not, you have to admire his durability! Whilst Theresa? Not sure I'd want her near any difficult negotiations after this showing!
Maybe it's easier to 'survive' when you just don't face up to questioning. I've lost count of the number of times Corbyn has blanked journalists, unless he was fully prepared to repeat his dogma ad nauseum, whilst ignoring the questions being put to him

That's not surviving, it's avoiding responsibilty, something which he and his party are very good at.

Garvin

5,185 posts

178 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
Garvin said:
Frustrated yes, rattled maybe but I didn't detect that May had 'completely fallen apart' - that is a bit of hyperbole (or, perhaps, wishful thinking).

I do recall Corbyn getting more than a little peeved during interviews and walk about when questioned/challenged.

Do you really think that May will be involved in each and every negotiation session? Besides which, she will be able to give as good as she gets in negotiation sessions. I do a lot of both (facing open/public questioning with audiences and difficult/complex negotiations) and they are completely different environments.
You seem to be the only person saying it wasn't a fairly woeful performance.
Then again, perhaps I'm the only person who can see it for what it really was and doesn't get all frothy at the mouth trying to persuade others it was something it wasn't.

Was it a great performance? No, I never said it was, not even good. It was however, not a 'completely fallen apart' performance as evidenced by some of the media commentaries on it.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Garvin said:
Then again, perhaps I'm the only person who can see it for what it really was and doesn't get all frothy at the mouth trying to persuade others it was something it wasn't.

Was it a great performance? No, I never said it was, not even good. It was however, not a 'completely fallen apart' performance as evidenced by some of the media commentaries on it.
She isn't Churchill or even Thatcher but she certainly isn't flaky either. She may not be the most natural of politicians and maybe that's what is good about her. She is doing fine continuing with 47 % in the Polls with Corbyn at about 33-35% . Don't get the focus on her rather than a Labour leader who is way off the pace by any standard

RichB

51,602 posts

285 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Garvin said:
Then again, perhaps I'm the only person who can see it for what it really was and doesn't get all frothy at the mouth trying to persuade others it was something it wasn't.

Was it a great performance? No, I never said it was, not even good. It was however, not a 'completely fallen apart' performance as evidenced by some of the media commentaries on it.
She isn't Churchill or even Thatcher but she certainly isn't flaky either. She may not be the most natural of politicians and maybe that's what is good about her. She is doing fine continuing with 47 % in the Polls with Corbyn at about 33-35% . Don't get the focus on her rather than a Labour leader who is way off the pace by any standard
I am looking forward to hearing Andrew Neil interview Corbyn. Then I will make a comparison.

RAFsmoggy

274 posts

126 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Will be interesting, but no matter, this has shown that May & her strong & stable rhetoric is all but GUFF, but is good at throwing the blame(Hammond) & U turns...Neil ripped her a new ahole & he did with ease!
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