Theresa May

[JagLover]

BlackLabel said:

The Conservative Party must focus on building affordable homes and creating jobs for "young metropolitan" voters if it wants to win the next general election, Damian Green will say on Saturday. The First Secretary of State, who is effectively Theresa May’s deputy, will use a speech to a Tory think-tank to say that the party lost its majority earlier this month by failing to appeal to 18-35-year-olds.

All true enough

But measures to actually boost housebuilding will be tough to get through a hung parliament.

[Derek Smith]

JagLover said:

BlackLabel said:

The Conservative Party must focus on building affordable homes and creating jobs for "young metropolitan" voters if it wants to win the next general election, Damian Green will say on Saturday. The First Secretary of State, who is effectively Theresa May’s deputy, will use a speech to a Tory think-tank to say that the party lost its majority earlier this month by failing to appeal to 18-35-year-olds.

All true enough

But measures to actually boost housebuilding will be tough to get through a hung parliament.

Lat year was the lowest house building number for many years.

I wonder why you think it will be difficult to get an increase in housebuilding through parliament. Aren't most parties in favour of it?

I know a contractor who expects (he says, but wants is probably a better word) a subsidy for brownfield sites. However, he is fearful of an exodus of builders after brexit. He's struggling already. A person with British qualifications will be able to write his own ticket in a couple of years he reckons.

[JagLover]

Derek Smith said:

Lat year was the lowest house building number for many years.

I wonder why you think it will be difficult to get an increase in housebuilding through parliament. Aren't most parties in favour of it?

Most MPs in all parties are in favour of platitudes, principally that you can build sufficient housing for a population increasing by 1/2 million a year on "brownfield sites".

Any changes to planning restrictions would almost certainly be opposed by a number of Tory MPs in the home counties.

[deadslow]

BlackLabel said:

The Conservative Party must focus on building affordable homes and creating jobs for "young metropolitan" voters if it wants to win the next general election, Damian Green will say on Saturday. The First Secretary of State, who is effectively Theresa May’s deputy, will use a speech to a Tory think-tank to say that the party lost its majority earlier this month by failing to appeal to 18-35-year-olds.

so they don't accept that they are simply utterly inept and unfit to govern? They just got the demographic wrong. Yeah.

[sidicks]

deadslow said:

so they don't accept that they are simply utterly inept and unfit to govern? They just got the demographic wrong. Yeah.

Only someone who thinks Corbyn and his cronies are a credible alternative would suggest such a thing.

[deadslow]

sidicks said:

deadslow said:

so they don't accept that they are simply utterly inept and unfit to govern? They just got the demographic wrong. Yeah.

Only someone who thinks Corbyn and his cronies are a credible alternative would suggest such a thing.

sorry, chum, wrong again.

[zygalski]

BlackLabel said:

The Conservative Party must focus on building affordable homes and creating jobs for "young metropolitan" voters if it wants to win the next general election, Damian Green will say on Saturday. The First Secretary of State, who is effectively Theresa May’s deputy, will use a speech to a Tory think-tank to say that the party lost its majority earlier this month by failing to appeal to 18-35-year-olds.

I'd say austerity fatigue has far more to do with it.
10 years of basically frozen wages & inflation now around 3% in real terms.
Less money in your pocket tends to make you resent the government somewhat. Millions & millions of people in the same boat...

[sidicks]

zygalski said:

I'd say austerity fatigue has far more to do with it.
10 years of basically frozen wages & inflation now around 3% in real terms.
Less money in your pocket tends to make you resent the government somewhat. Millions & millions of people in the same boat...

If only Labour hadn't spent all the money.
If only public spending had actually gone down to try and address the deficit more quickly.
Trouble is, enough suckers are seemingly keen to vote for the 'spend money like water' party...

Edited by sidicks on Saturday 1st July 12:28

[zygalski]

Wiccan of Darkness said:

Looks like she's got the deal with the DUP. Seems the DUP commitments are pretty standard, such as 2% GDP on defence (NATO commitment) and various other demands that were going to happen anyway.

How much money are the Tories going to spend on NI all of a sudden.
Should be interesting....

[chris watton]

zygalski said:

How much money are the Tories going to spend on NI all of a sudden.
Should be interesting....

Not a fraction of the amount your man of choice would have wasted if he had won the election (he didn't, BTW) - and once all that money has gone, he'd blame Thatcher/the Tories for not having any more to waste.

[PurpleMoonlight]

There's an anti austerity march in London today.

Unite reps everywhere.

[sidicks]

PurpleMoonlight said:

There's an anti austerity march in London today.

Unite reps everywhere.

Given that public spending has increased each and every year since 2010 and we still have to borrow £50 billion per annum to 'pay the bills', what austerity are they referring to? They really should have better things to do with their time.

[zygalski]

chris watton said:

zygalski said:

How much money are the Tories going to spend on NI all of a sudden.
Should be interesting....

Not a fraction of the amount your man of choice would have wasted if he had won the election (he didn't, BTW) - and once all that money has gone, he'd blame Thatcher/the Tories for not having any more to waste.

Corbyn certainly isn't my man of choice.
Says a lot that your beloved Tories are so inept they couldn't even get a majority govt against him. Hardly a 'win' having to arse lick a bunch of nutters like the DUP to form a government, eh?

[gooner1]

zygalski said:

chris watton said:

zygalski said:

How much money are the Tories going to spend on NI all of a sudden.
Should be interesting....

Not a fraction of the amount your man of choice would have wasted if he had won the election (he didn't, BTW) - and once all that money has gone, he'd blame Thatcher/the Tories for not having any more to waste.

Corbyn certainly isn't my man of choice.
Says a lot that your beloved Tories are so inept they couldn't even get a majority govt against him. Hardly a 'win' having to arse lick a bunch of nutters like the DUP to form a government, eh?

Not a bad deal that, given an arse licking and a Billion£'s. Haste ye back, I'd be saying.

[chris watton]

zygalski said:

chris watton said:

zygalski said:

How much money are the Tories going to spend on NI all of a sudden.
Should be interesting....

Not a fraction of the amount your man of choice would have wasted if he had won the election (he didn't, BTW) - and once all that money has gone, he'd blame Thatcher/the Tories for not having any more to waste.

Corbyn certainly isn't my man of choice.
Says a lot that your beloved Tories are so inept they couldn't even get a majority govt against him. Hardly a 'win' having to arse lick a bunch of nutters like the DUP to form a government, eh?

I am no Tory fan boy, I just see them as the slightly lesser of two evils right now.

In fact, I was seriously considering spoiling my vote for the first time ever, rather than vote for May - but the thought of Corbyn gaining power made me hold my nose and begrudgingly vote for the Tories this time around.

Edited by chris watton on Saturday 1st July 13:52

[BlackLabel]

Plan A: have big majority and personal mandate to strengthen Britain's hand. Plan B: confirm I'm lame duck interim PM to strengthen Britain's hand.

Wonder what's next?





https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3931705/theresa-may-...

[Eddie Strohacker]

BlackLabel said:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3931705/theresa-may-...

Ah, Tom Newton Dunn. Or Tom Newton Zoltan Dunn, old Marlburian, to give him his full title. Yes, Zoltan is one of his middle names & that's the guy delivering politics to the army of white van men. Shortly after that, he tweeted another Sun exclusive claiming Corbyn faces embarrassment because there were zero hours workers at Glastonbury.

Taint by association from a man who works for the Sun. I have enormous sympathy for Tom, schlepping in from Clapham every single day, only to face the soul sapping, ennui generating crushing hypocrisy of churning out tomorrow's chip wrappers for that barely sentient liver spot, Rupert Murdoch.

[ATG]

Eddie Strohacker said:

that barely sentient liver spot, Rupert Murdoch.

Bravo!

[BlackLabel]

Who will go first - May or Hammond?


Gulf between Theresa May and Philip Hammond widens at G20

[Tuna]

BlackLabel said:

Who will go first - May or Hammond?


Gulf between Theresa May and Philip Hammond widens at G20

I think some people are looking for controversy where there is very little. It's possible for both agendas to be pursued, and not unreasonable for different members of the government to pursue them. That doesn't necessarily mean that they can't work together.