Theresa May

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alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Dazed and Confused said:
Oh, the irony.

Corbyn now more popular than May.


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Welcome back JK.....again biggrin

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Dazed and Confused said:
Oh, the irony.

Corbyn now more popular than May.


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What's ironic about someone (who is promising lots of free money for a large portion of the portfolio) being more popular than someone who has to try to manage an overspend?

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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sidicks said:
What's ironic about someone (who is promising lots of free money for a large portion of the portfolio) being more popular than someone who has to try to manage an overspend?


Perhaps the irony is having instigated an election, after repeatedly stating there wouldn't be one, in order to improve her and her parties standing, she and he party now find themselves
less popular than the party, and specifically their leader, that they tried so hard to demonise.

When do you think this overspend will be managed and overcome?

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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gooner1 said:


Perhaps the irony is having instigated an election, after repeatedly stating there wouldn't be one, in order to improve her and her parties standing, she and he party now find themselves
less popular than the party, and specifically their leader, that they tried so hard to demonise.

When do you think this overspend will be managed and overcome?
Probably when the opposition stop lying to the electorate about 'cuts and austerity'.

Tuna

19,930 posts

285 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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sidicks said:
What's ironic about someone (who is promising lots of free money for a large portion of the portfolio) being more popular than someone who has to try to manage an overspend?
After Teflon Tony, Corbyn is clearly made of some further improved miracle material to which nothing can stick. We've just had a week where they admitted that one of the highest profile promises of the Labour manifesto were not achievable (or if you're feeling harsh - a lie), and yet Santa Corbyn is still seen as a figure to trust.

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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sidicks said:
gooner1 said:


Perhaps the irony is having instigated an election, after repeatedly stating there wouldn't be one, in order to improve her and her parties standing, she and he party now find themselves
less popular than the party, and specifically their leader, that they tried so hard to demonise.

When do you think this overspend will be managed and overcome?
Probably when the opposition stop lying to the electorate about 'cuts and austerity'.
How will what the opposition says, or doesn't say improve the present Goverments performance on this particular aspect?

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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gooner1 said:
How will what the opposition says, or doesn't say improve the present Goverments performance on this particular aspect?
a £150bn deficit has reduced to less than £50bn - that's a decent performance given the constraints of the Coalition (first) and the practicalities of reducing spending by less than inflation and still staying in power.

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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sidicks said:
gooner1 said:
How will what the opposition says, or doesn't say improve the present Goverments performance on this particular aspect?
a £150bn deficit has reduced to less than £50bn - that's a decent performance given the constraints of the Coalition (first) and the practicalities of reducing spending by less than inflation and still staying in power.
But how has that been held back by what the opposition has or has not said?

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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gooner1 said:
But how has that been held back by what the opposition has or has not said?
If the cuts had been greater, what would have happened at the recent elections?
If the opposition had provided an economically literate manifesto, rather than promised free money for everyone, what would have happened at the recent elections?

Randy Winkman

16,155 posts

190 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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sidicks said:
gooner1 said:
But how has that been held back by what the opposition has or has not said?
If the cuts had been greater, what would have happened at the recent elections?
If the opposition had provided an economically literate manifesto, rather than promised free money for everyone, what would have happened at the recent elections?
My view is that the electorate were faced with a similar decision to that which they are usually faced with. Except this time, Labour tried to engage with them whilst May thought she was on an absolute banker and treated people with contempt. The public saw through that.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Randy Winkman said:
My view is that the electorate were faced with a similar decision to that which they are usually faced with. Except this time, Labour tried to engage with them whilst May thought she was on an absolute banker and treated people with contempt. The public saw through that.
Labour trying to bribe the electorate by resorting to the magic money tree?

Edited by sidicks on Saturday 22 July 17:08

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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sidicks said:
gooner1 said:
But how has that been held back by what the opposition has or has not said?
If the cuts had been greater, what would have happened at the recent elections?
If the opposition had provided an economically literate manifesto, rather than promised free money for everyone, what would have happened at the recent elections?
But the recent election is just that, recent, and took all of 3 months.

Are you saying that without the election the overspend would have been managed and overcome?

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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gooner1 said:
But the recent election is just that, recent, and took all of 3 months.

Are you saying that without the election the overspend would have been managed and overcome?
What I've said is very clear. And it is not what you are claiming.

768

13,694 posts

97 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Randy Winkman said:
My view is that the electorate were faced with a similar decision to that which they are usually faced with. Except this time, Labour tried to engage with them whilst May thought she was on an absolute banker and treated people with
With you up to here.

Randy Winkman said:
contempt. The public saw through that.
I think she treated people with too much respect and a naive minority fell for the obscene amounts of free money Corbyn was dangling with one hand while trying to hide his other hand behind his back by burying McDonnell and Abbott.

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

87 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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I think anyone who concludes anything other than May gave a remote, robotic performance, reducing her assessment of the electorate to being worthy of only increasingly meaningless sloganeering AND coupled it with a smattering of disastrous policy announcements wants their head felt.

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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sidicks said:
gooner1 said:
But the recent election is just that, recent, and took all of 3 months.

Are you saying that without the election the overspend would have been managed and overcome?
What I've said is very clear. And it is not what you are claiming.
I'm clear on what you originally said, You blamed the election and the opposition's " lies"
on the present state of management of the overspend. When you were asked how
what the opposition said, or didn't say affected the performance of this, you answered with questions. Again.

What is it I'm supposedly claiming?



sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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gooner1 said:
What is it I'm supposedly claiming?
gooner1 said:
Are you saying that without the election the overspend would have been managed and overcome?
No.

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Tuna said:
After Teflon Tony, Corbyn is clearly made of some further improved miracle material to which nothing can stick. We've just had a week where they admitted that one of the highest profile promises of the Labour manifesto were not achievable (or if you're feeling harsh - a lie), and yet Santa Corbyn is still seen as a figure to trust.
What high profile promise in the Labour manifesto was admitted to being a lie?

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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sidicks said:
Randy Winkman said:
My view is that the electorate were faced with a similar decision to that which they are usually faced with. Except this time, Labour tried to engage with them whilst May thought she was on an absolute banker and treated people with contempt. The public saw through that.
Labour trying to bribe the electorate by resorting to the magic money tree?

Edited by sidicks on Saturday 22 July 17:08
And the Tories bribe to the DUP came from what specific species of Flora?

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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gooner1 said:
And the Tories bribe to the DUP came from what specific species of Flora?
How many votes in the general election did this give the Tories?
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