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Vanden Saab

14,139 posts

75 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Jazzy Jag said:
saaby93 said:
What would it cost for the rest of Ireland to leave the EU?
If they are still net beneficiaries from EU membership I can't see them wanting to leave.

What would it cost the UK to convince them to walk away?
They used to be a beneficiary but now are contributors the change came in 2016....

Jazzy Jag

3,431 posts

92 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Vanden Saab said:
Jazzy Jag said:
saaby93 said:
What would it cost for the rest of Ireland to leave the EU?
If they are still net beneficiaries from EU membership I can't see them wanting to leave.

What would it cost the UK to convince them to walk away?
They used to be a beneficiary but now are contributors the change came in 2016....
scratchchin

Interesting

Perhaps they should have a referendum?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Jazzy Jag said:
saaby93 said:
What would it cost for the rest of Ireland to leave the EU?
If they are still net beneficiaries from EU membership I can't see them wanting to leave.

What would it cost the UK to convince them to walk away?
I'm not sure why they would need to leave the EU. PH team leave says that there is no border issue.

Unless of course PH team leave haven't got a clue what they are talking about. But hey, we are leaving and things will be the same for a 3rd country as being a member of the EU. rofl



Jazzy Jag

3,431 posts

92 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Ghibli said:
Jazzy Jag said:
saaby93 said:
What would it cost for the rest of Ireland to leave the EU?
If they are still net beneficiaries from EU membership I can't see them wanting to leave.

What would it cost the UK to convince them to walk away?
I'm not sure why they would need to leave the EU. PH team leave says that there is no border issue.

Unless of course PH team leave haven't got a clue what they are talking about. But hey, we are leaving and things will be the same for a 3rd country as being a member of the EU. rofl
Nothing wrong with hammering another nail in the EU coffin.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Jazzy Jag said:
Nothing wrong with hammering another nail in the EU coffin.
Farage tried in February of this year but doesn't seem to be pursuing it any further.

Maybe the ROI don't want the UK taking control of them.

Jazzy Jag

3,431 posts

92 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Ghibli said:
Farage tried in February of this year but doesn't seem to be pursuing it any further.

Maybe the ROI don't want the UK taking control of them.
Well there is a giant leap!

From ROI having a referendum on the EU to being controlled by the UK.

How does one lead to the other in your mind?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Jazzy Jag said:
Well there is a giant leap!

From ROI having a referendum on the EU to being controlled by the UK.

How does one lead to the other in your mind?
Who will be persuading to have a referendum. Who will be wanting to bang the nail in the coffin.



don'tbesilly

13,939 posts

164 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Ghibli said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Nothing wrong with hammering another nail in the EU coffin.
Farage tried in February of this year but doesn't seem to be pursuing it any further.

Maybe the ROI don't want the UK taking control of them.
Oh dear.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45614468

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/16896593.nige...

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...

http://www.itv.com/news/2018-09-06/david-davis-to-...

Jazzy Jag

3,431 posts

92 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Ghibli said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Well there is a giant leap!

From ROI having a referendum on the EU to being controlled by the UK.

How does one lead to the other in your mind?
Who will be persuading to have a referendum. Who will be wanting to bang the nail in the coffin.
Who will be doing the voting?
Who will be running ROI post referendum?



anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Jazzy Jag said:
Who will be doing the voting?
Who will be running ROI post referendum?
When is the ROI referendum ?

don'tbesilly

13,939 posts

164 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Ghibli said:
You think they need to?
Have you shared such an invaluable insight with the leaders of Leave means Leave?

Jazzy Jag

3,431 posts

92 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Ghibli said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Who will be doing the voting?
Who will be running ROI post referendum?
When is the ROI referendum ?
Ok pedant

Who would be voting and running the ROI should they vote Leave in a referendum?

You suggested that the UK would be but seem more concerned about pedantry than explaining your massive leap.

Any chance you could explain?

Murph7355

37,760 posts

257 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Ghibli said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Who will be doing the voting?
Who will be running ROI post referendum?
When is the ROI referendum ?
They had a couple in 08/09 wink

(I doubt it will be the last referendum in EU member states over the next 10-20yrs).

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Jazzy Jag said:
Ok pedant

Who would be voting and running the ROI should they vote Leave in a referendum?

You suggested that the UK would be but seem more concerned about pedantry than explaining your massive leap.

Any chance you could explain?
There is no ROI referendum. Someone will need to persuade them to have one. I can't see the EU persuading them. It would need to be the Uk persuading them, Nige had a go this year and gave up. Who do you suggest persuades them to trade and live under Uk law or will they be going it alone as a 3rd country to the Uk.

Jazzy Jag

3,431 posts

92 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Ghibli said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Ok pedant

Who would be voting and running the ROI should they vote Leave in a referendum?

You suggested that the UK would be but seem more concerned about pedantry than explaining your massive leap.

Any chance you could explain?
There is no ROI referendum. Someone will need to persuade them to have one. I can't see the EU persuading them. It would need to be the Uk persuading them, Nige had a go this year and gave up. Who do you suggest persuades them to trade and live under Uk law or will they be going it alone as a 3rd country to the Uk.
Yet again you have conflated the Irish people voting to not be ruled by the EU with be run by the UK.

Do you not consider the Irish people of being capable of running their own country and making their own laws?
How did they survive before joining the EU?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Jazzy Jag said:
Yet again you have conflated the Irish people voting to not be ruled by the EU with be run by the UK.

Do you not consider the Irish people of being capable of running their own country and making their own laws?
How did they survive before joining the EU?
Ok, if they left the EU. What would they be hoping to achieve? Would it be something like leave the CU/SM to trade under a completely different system to the EU and UK while stopping freedom of movement.

Jazzy Jag

3,431 posts

92 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Ghibli said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Yet again you have conflated the Irish people voting to not be ruled by the EU with be run by the UK.

Do you not consider the Irish people of being capable of running their own country and making their own laws?
How did they survive before joining the EU?
Ok, if they left the EU. What would they be hoping to achieve? Would it be something like leave the CU/SM to trade under a completely different system to the EU and UK while stopping freedom of movement.
They may hope to achieve exactly the same thing that every leave voter in the UK wants to achieve.

You also assume that FMOP is a good thing.


anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Jazzy Jag said:
They may hope to achieve exactly the same thing that every leave voter in the UK wants to achieve.

You also assume that FMOP is a good thing.
And what is that?

Be the first to spell out what you will be getting and then send it to May so that she know what to achieve.

Edit: better still send it to the ROI and see if you can temp them to have a referendum.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 23 September 10:55

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Tiresome. Please stop spamming the thread.
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