Theresa May

[MC Bodge]

wc98 said:

Sway said:

sidicks said:

MC Bodge said:

It is odd how despite the glorious victory, there is still a lot of dissatisfaction.

To paraphrase,

You "won", get over it.

It is odd how some Remainers make silly claims which they are unable to justify...

What, like the EU being the driver for banning leaded fuel globally?

Or them driving (just slower than the rest of the world) the elimination of roaming charges?

How about peace in Europe (apart from the genocides on it's borders and it's expansionism leading to Ukraine getting fked)?

Those sorts of false claims?

given the name attributed to the slide appears to be another erasmus programmed drone the claims should come as no surprise." those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future".

Isn't it going well, though?

[Sway]

MC Bodge said:

Isn't it going well, though?

What, the complete plagiarisation of global endeavours as being benefits of EU membership? The complete fallacies included in a list to counter perceived ignorance?

[Cobnapint]

saaby93 said:

Still no sign of Ireland trying to help by leaving the EU too
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45868503

Ireland......help us. No chance of that.

They've soon forgotten who helped bail them out back in 2010. 'The [British] government agreed to provide a bilateral loan to Ireland because it is in the UK’s national interest that Ireland has a successful economy and a stable banking system.'

Now they're back on their feet it's all EU, EU, EU.

Who needs enemies...?

[dazwalsh]

Cobnapint said:

saaby93 said:

Still no sign of Ireland trying to help by leaving the EU too
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45868503

Ireland......help us. No chance of that.

They've soon forgotten who helped bail them out back in 2010. 'The [British] government agreed to provide a bilateral loan to Ireland because it is in the UK’s national interest that Ireland has a successful economy and a stable banking system.'

Now they're back on their feet it's all EU, EU, EU.

Who needs enemies...?

Im actually quite suprised that ireland havent been more outspoken about how stty a no deal brexit is for them, 3 times longer to get a truck round the uk rather than through it, 48 billion in trade each year sustaining 400,000 jobs. They will be as equally fked as we will be if not more considering their georaphical position post brexit. Then if the EU says they have to start building a border to NI the st will hit the fan.

Cmon Leo, put a shift in son!

Edited by dazwalsh on Tuesday 16th October 21:11

[slow_poke]

Cobnapint said:

saaby93 said:

Still no sign of Ireland trying to help by leaving the EU too
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45868503

Ireland......help us. No chance of that.

They've soon forgotten who helped bail them out back in 2010. 'The [British] government agreed to provide a bilateral loan to Ireland because it is in the UK’s national interest that Ireland has a successful economy and a stable banking system.'

Now they're back on their feet it's all EU, EU, EU.

Who needs enemies...?

Awfully nice of the UK to do that, and it did generate a lot of goodwill too. Demonstrated solidarity by a near neighbour when in time of need. Of course, the loan was paid back, with interest.

[Vanden Saab]

slow_poke said:

Awfully nice of the UK to do that, and it did generate a lot of goodwill too. Demonstrated solidarity by a near neighbour when in time of need. Of course, the loan was paid back, with interest.

No it hasn't been paid back... three more years to go.....

[davepoth]

dazwalsh said:

Im actually quite suprised that ireland havent been more outspoken about how stty a no deal brexit is for them, 3 times longer to get a truck round the uk rather than through it, 48 billion in trade each year sustaining 400,000 jobs. They will be as equally fked as we will be if not more considering their georaphical position post brexit. Then if the EU says they have to start building a border to NI the st will hit the fan.

Cmon Leo, put a shift in son!

Edited by dazwalsh on Tuesday 16th October 21:11

IMO Varadkar doesn't have much else he can do now. If this ends up with no deal then he's going to look a bit silly, especially once the EU starts asking about corporate tax again.

[MC Bodge]

dazwalsh said:

Im actually quite suprised that ireland havent been more outspoken about how stty a no deal brexit is for them, 3 times longer to get a truck round the uk rather than through it, 48 billion in trade each year sustaining 400,000 jobs. They will be as equally fked as we will be if not more considering their georaphical position post brexit. Then if the EU says they have to start building a border to NI the st will hit the fan.

Cmon Leo, put a shift in son!

Edited by dazwalsh on Tuesday 16th October 21:11

The UK shafting the Irish? It appears to be a centuries old tradition

[SpeckledJim]

MC Bodge said:

dazwalsh said:

Im actually quite suprised that ireland havent been more outspoken about how stty a no deal brexit is for them, 3 times longer to get a truck round the uk rather than through it, 48 billion in trade each year sustaining 400,000 jobs. They will be as equally fked as we will be if not more considering their georaphical position post brexit. Then if the EU says they have to start building a border to NI the st will hit the fan.

Cmon Leo, put a shift in son!

Edited by dazwalsh on Tuesday 16th October 21:11

The UK shafting the Irish? It appears to be a centuries old tradition

They’re big boys. Looking after Ireland is the job of the Irish.

[The Dangerous Elk]

MC Bodge said:

dazwalsh said:

Im actually quite suprised that ireland havent been more outspoken about how stty a no deal brexit is for them, 3 times longer to get a truck round the uk rather than through it, 48 billion in trade each year sustaining 400,000 jobs. They will be as equally fked as we will be if not more considering their georaphical position post brexit. Then if the EU says they have to start building a border to NI the st will hit the fan.

Cmon Leo, put a shift in son!

Edited by dazwalsh on Tuesday 16th October 21:11

The UK shafting the Irish? It appears to be a centuries old tradition

The same Irish we saved a few years ago and who still have not finished paying back that loan ?

Shafting them ? my arse.

[anonymous-user]

SpeckledJim said:

They’re big boys. Looking after Ireland is the job of the Irish.

Seriously?

[SpeckledJim]

desolate said:

SpeckledJim said:

They’re big boys. Looking after Ireland is the job of the Irish.

Seriously?

Yes. We’re not ‘shafting the Irish’.

The Irish are an independent nation. Brexit is a decision by another country to leave the EU. It is not any kind of ‘shafting’ of Ireland or any other foreign country.

Calling it a ‘shafting’ implies that A: we owe Ireland some kind of duty, and B: that the Irish aren’t capable of looking after themselves.

At the very least, it’s condescending. (As is calling them ‘big boys’, granted )

[anonymous-user]

SpeckledJim said:

Yes. We’re not ‘shafting the Irish’.

The Irish are an independent nation. Brexit is a decision by another country to leave the EU. It is not any kind of ‘shafting’ of Ireland or any other foreign country.

Calling it a ‘shafting’ implies that A: we owe Ireland some kind of duty, and B: that the Irish aren’t capable of looking after themselves.

At the very least, it’s condescending. (As is calling them ‘big boys’, granted )

So you don't mean all the Irish then. You mean the Republic of Ireland, fair enough.

I think the vast majority would like the chance to look after themselves.

[MC Bodge]

What wonderful people post on here

[slow_poke]

SpeckledJim said:

MC Bodge said:

dazwalsh said:

Im actually quite suprised that ireland havent been more outspoken about how stty a no deal brexit is for them, 3 times longer to get a truck round the uk rather than through it, 48 billion in trade each year sustaining 400,000 jobs. They will be as equally fked as we will be if not more considering their georaphical position post brexit. Then if the EU says they have to start building a border to NI the st will hit the fan.

Cmon Leo, put a shift in son!

Edited by dazwalsh on Tuesday 16th October 21:11

The UK shafting the Irish? It appears to be a centuries old tradition

They’re big boys. Looking after Ireland is the job of the Irish.

Agreed. And to be fair to them, they're playing a pretty good hand with the kind of cards they've been dealt. Lots of bluff, lots of schmoozing and mobilizing allies in the rest of the EU, making sure their own strategic national interests are aligned along the same axis as the EU's - they've really put the boot into a straightforward Brexit and have given it a right old kicking.

[MC Bodge]

slow_poke said:

Agreed. And to be fair to them, they're playing a pretty good hand with the kind of cards they've been dealt. Lots of bluff, lots of schmoozing and mobilizing allies in the rest of the EU, making sure their own strategic national interests are aligned along the same axis as the EU's - they've really put the boot into a straightforward Brexit and have given it a right old kicking.

"A straightforward Brexit".

How dare they? UK are determined to do something daft and unnecessary and the Irish Republic is trying to make the best of it! How very dare they?!!!

[The Dangerous Elk]

MC Bodge said:

"A straightforward Brexit".

How dare they? UK are determined to do something daft and unnecessary and the Irish Republic is trying to make the best of it! How very dare they?!!!

Best lube up then, you seem happy to expect that for us because everybody who voted leave is daft

People who think like you are part of the problem.

PS, you forgot to cry Racist

[Tuna]

MC Bodge said:

"A straightforward Brexit".

How dare they? UK are determined to do something daft and unnecessary and the Irish Republic is trying to make the best of it! How very dare they?!!!

There is a point at which short term stubbornness and political point scoring is going to be very damaging. Both sides are gambling on what the EU and UK will do when the negotiations are at the eleventh hour.

[SpeckledJim]

MC Bodge said:

slow_poke said:

Agreed. And to be fair to them, they're playing a pretty good hand with the kind of cards they've been dealt. Lots of bluff, lots of schmoozing and mobilizing allies in the rest of the EU, making sure their own strategic national interests are aligned along the same axis as the EU's - they've really put the boot into a straightforward Brexit and have given it a right old kicking.

"A straightforward Brexit".

How dare they? UK are determined to do something daft and unnecessary and the Irish Republic is trying to make the best of it! How very dare they?!!!

Exactly. It's fine for the Irish to do what's in their interests, just as it's fine for us to do what's in ours, and for the EU to do what's in theirs.

No 'shafting'.

[captain_cynic]

The Dangerous Elk said:

Best lube up then, you seem happy to expect that for us because everybody who voted leave is daft

Trying to bully people who disagree with you (rather poorly I might add) really demonstrates that leavers are that daft.

There is no good Brexit, never was and never will be. The leave vote was mainly protests against the London centric govt (that's why a lot of votes came from up North). Most of us are patiently waiting for the train wreck that is Brexit to come to its natural conclusion of a complete failure that needs to be abandoned.

BTW, I honestly couldn't care what you're happy to accept, the thing about reality is that it also doesn't care what you're willing to accept and the reality is Brexit could never have been anything other than a failure.