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tshowdon'tbesilly said:
Cobnapint said:
No confidence vote due on Thursday according to Kuensberg.
Is May going to be announcing that herself when she pops out from No 10?
Very good.No, a senior source from within the cabinet has said that the Brexiteers are so angry about this deal, he/she fully expects a vnc tomorrow.
Laura Kuenssberg
@bbclaurak
18m
Senior tory tells me Brexiteer anger so high that seems likely there will be a call for no confidence vote tomorrow - letters going in -
Edited by Cobnapint on Wednesday 14th November 18:30
Cobnapint said:
don'tbesilly said:
Cobnapint said:
No confidence vote due on Thursday according to Kuensberg.
Is May going to be announcing that herself when she pops out from No 10? Very good.No, a senior source from within the cabinet has said that the Brexiteers are so angry about this deal, he/she fully expects a vnc tomorrow.
Helicopter123 said:
End in sight for May.
She either goes herself tonight or faces a vote of no confidence Thursday.
I still can't fathom what her plan actually was?
keep up at the back She either goes herself tonight or faces a vote of no confidence Thursday.
I still can't fathom what her plan actually was?
The voters voted for Brexit so that's the plan
The problem is how to do it with no border in Ireland ( or the north sea)
If she's achieved that with this draft agreement that's pretty good going
otherwise it's Eire out of the EU too
The remainers seem to want it to collapse
the bexiteers seem to want it to collapse
Where's labour
At best, she seems to have at most around 280 votes and that's assuming Remainer MP largely stay on-message.
She seems to be 10 DUP MPs down, 13 Scottish Tories, and round 50 ERG members and perhaps 10 Tory Remainer MPs. It's not clear how many Labour Leave MPs would support her in these circumstances, but I doubt Kate Hoey will be among them, given the NI dimension.
She seems to be 10 DUP MPs down, 13 Scottish Tories, and round 50 ERG members and perhaps 10 Tory Remainer MPs. It's not clear how many Labour Leave MPs would support her in these circumstances, but I doubt Kate Hoey will be among them, given the NI dimension.
saaby93 said:
Helicopter123 said:
End in sight for May.
She either goes herself tonight or faces a vote of no confidence Thursday.
I still can't fathom what her plan actually was?
keep up at the back She either goes herself tonight or faces a vote of no confidence Thursday.
I still can't fathom what her plan actually was?
The voters voted for Brexit so that's the plan
The problem is how to do it with no border in Ireland ( or the north sea)
If she's achieved that with this draft agreement that's pretty good going
otherwise it's Eire out of the EU too
The remainers seem to want it to collapse
the bexiteers seem to want it to collapse
Where's labour
Laura Kuenssberg
@bbclaurak
1m
Understand there has not yet been an official ERG decision to get group to push button on letters going in, but levels of anger so high that some are doing it anyway - this might be the start of crashing into a leadership contest by accident - impossible to tell yet
psi310398 said:
At best, she seems to have at most around 280 votes and that's assuming Remainer MP largely stay on-message.
She seems to be 10 DUP MPs down, 13 Scottish Tories, and round 50 ERG members and perhaps 10 Tory Remainer MPs. It's not clear how many Labour Leave MPs would support her in these circumstances, but I doubt Kate Hoey will be among them, given the NI dimension.
Peston reckons as many as 70 Tory MP's would vote against the deal, which gives May around 245 of her own MP's still supporting her.She seems to be 10 DUP MPs down, 13 Scottish Tories, and round 50 ERG members and perhaps 10 Tory Remainer MPs. It's not clear how many Labour Leave MPs would support her in these circumstances, but I doubt Kate Hoey will be among them, given the NI dimension.
If you count all the others who would vote the deal down, it will be a rout!
I would say I do suspect she's fundamentally a decent person - just seems to have fallen into the trap of being either out of her depth, unable to keep everybody in her own party happy, or a mixture of both.
I'm sure we've all worked with similar, nice enough but just not good at the task at hand.
I'm sure we've all worked with similar, nice enough but just not good at the task at hand.
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