Increase in the price of a kit kat.
Discussion
Shoegrip said:
The sad thing is that many who voted to leave are those who can least afford the inflationary effects of a weak £, whether that be buying essentials or going on their 2 weeks to Magamuff.
The current devaluation has causes greater than Brexit and anyone who believes it is our biggest concern is naive or just in denial.
I know plenty of people who wanted Brexit at whatever price. Well, it looks like we are getting it but the crying shame of all of this is that a populations minority is able to drag the majority into a position where they will suffer financially for many years. We are where we are.
Brexit is a factor but as stated just one of many.The current devaluation has causes greater than Brexit and anyone who believes it is our biggest concern is naive or just in denial.
I know plenty of people who wanted Brexit at whatever price. Well, it looks like we are getting it but the crying shame of all of this is that a populations minority is able to drag the majority into a position where they will suffer financially for many years. We are where we are.
Edited by Shoegrip on Saturday 22 October 07:28
Edited by Shoegrip on Saturday 22 October 07:30
Brexit has caused an opportunity for currency speculators to speculate, QE has pumped hundreds of billions of £ into the economy that has two longer term effects, inflation and currency devaluation unless you then remove the billions and that would probably mean recession again.
Other factors are record low interest rates that have nothing to do with Brexit.
Many factors, the truth is we have been living beyond our means for years and a rebalance is happening.
Ahbefive said:
I'm not sure you understand how democratic voting works. The majority voted FOR Brexit.
Well, each day is a learning day so I'm happy to be corrected. With democratic voting, the option which gets the most votes is the option that is taken up. The problem as I see it, is that this doesn't necessarily bring about the best outcome for the people as many of the people may not understand the consequences of their vote or not even appreciate they need to vote.
This is made even worse in the modern system of exit votes and advance poles. With regards to the latest referendum, the concept of leaving seemed so ridiculous that many didn't vote as they relied on others to do their work for them. Others didn't vote as they believed that the subject matter didn't warrant voting on as whether we are in the EU or not didn't matter to them.
In any, case, we are where we are and the focus now needs to be to make the best of a bad job.
The weak £ is a great opportunity, the potential freedom to negotiate a trade deals which benefit us without recourse to anyone other than the trading partner gives a little more freedom, I say a little more as the EU will still have some influence as we want to trade with them too and they will have strength to do that. There are many other benefits if we choose to take them up rather than looking backwards.
On a personal front, my business relies very little on imports but we have good potential to export, now even better. Yes, prices go up but because competitors rely more heavily on imports, we can put our prices up on their coat tails of market pricing.
Shoegrip said:
Well, each day is a learning day so I'm happy to be corrected.
With democratic voting, the option which gets the most votes is the option that is taken up. The problem as I see it, is that this doesn't necessarily bring about the best outcome for the people as many of the people may not understand the consequences of their vote or not even appreciate they need to vote.
This is made even worse in the modern system of exit votes and advance poles. With regards to the latest referendum, the concept of leaving seemed so ridiculous that many didn't vote as they relied on others to do their work for them. Others didn't vote as they believed that the subject matter didn't warrant voting on as whether we are in the EU or not didn't matter to them.
That is all just your biased opinion. The same sWith democratic voting, the option which gets the most votes is the option that is taken up. The problem as I see it, is that this doesn't necessarily bring about the best outcome for the people as many of the people may not understand the consequences of their vote or not even appreciate they need to vote.
This is made even worse in the modern system of exit votes and advance poles. With regards to the latest referendum, the concept of leaving seemed so ridiculous that many didn't vote as they relied on others to do their work for them. Others didn't vote as they believed that the subject matter didn't warrant voting on as whether we are in the EU or not didn't matter to them.
t being pedalled by the BBC etc since they were shocked on that wonderful morning. Why don't people like you GET IT? There was a 72% turnout because people knew what they were voting for and what they bloody wanted. Get that in to your skull.powerstroke said:
limpsfield said:
powerstroke said:
Correct , I'm from the northern powerhouse and we are taking over from the city, we make things to sell
we replace the spivs, casino bankers and traders who play with other peoples money ,
we don't steal other peoples money and walk away after crashing the economy we arnt sub prime chancers....
And, if I remember correctly, with fishing? Innit?we replace the spivs, casino bankers and traders who play with other peoples money ,
we don't steal other peoples money and walk away after crashing the economy we arnt sub prime chancers....
I think our friend ///ajd invented that as he thinks germany makes cars and china everything else
and we in the UK can only make coffee for each other and short things, and as long as we have the EU to
look after us and help our magic money tree blossom otherwise we are going to hell in a hand cart....
It was very amusing - for everyone else.
dandarez said:
What a fking jerk you are! Food is cheaper now than it's ever been. Our weekly shop was dearer in the 80s than now. Mind you, we're lucky we have all the supermarkets round here and have the time to shop all (the only way you can save big time).
You turn this into a Brexit thing over a fking minor price increase of a kit kat bar. Jeezus!
Like the Marmite scandal. Unilever backing down because Tesco had the guts to call them out.
You'll go into one supermarket this weekend and find kit kats at a different (usually 'lower') price than another. It's called 'competition'.
If you just shop willy nilly, of course you'll get stung.
fk me, milk is now only a quid for 4 litres!
Even 'REAL' milk ie in-homogenised full cream (not fking ste red-top skimmed that pours like white paint) - 8 litres can be bought in Waitrose for £3.
http://www.waitrose.com/shop/DisplayProductFlyout?...
Just THREE QUID for EIGHT litres of REAL milk.
At the same time I got a large tub of Rose's chocs, usually six quid in most places, for £3.60. Just carry a Waitrose card and before you leave, why pay fking Starbucks 3 quid for a coffee, get one free in Waitrose!
http://www.waitrose.com/shop/DisplayProductFlyout?...
LOL See it's easy if you know where it's cheaper. Shop around. Your weekly bill drops. Instead of being on PH NP&E every fking moment, look online and find the deals it pays! LOL
In the 80s Milk was almost double the price today. So f. off with your Remoanian crap.
And no, I'm not a Waitrose 'shopper' per se, as said, we shop ALL.
Last week Sainsbury's were doing their Nectar voucher bonus spend 10 quid min, and get a Nectar voucher worth min 200 point (a quid) but you could get 500 pts, 1000pts, 2000 or 5000 pts - those who knew about it got more than a fking kit kat bar! I went into their petrol station and did what half the queuing customers (in the know) were doing. I did 5 fill ups of a tenner a time. Fill up tenner. Pump back, fill again ditto. Was it worth it? yeah, 1 5000 pts (25quid!), 2 200s, and 2 500s and the last fill came out of the tank at 6quid... staff said make it up to a tenner with something in the station, so I bought two 200gram bars of Cadbury choc. 2 f. quid each! But hey presto, I got a 2000 pts voucher! All in all, I spent 50 quid (46 quid on fuel, 4 quid on chocolate). I came out with vouchers worth 41 quid! LOL. Cost of living eh? Full tank for a fiver effectively. I won't tell you how much we got over that weekend in vouchers doing the shop inside the store, hilarious! Wife went in Sainsbury's this morning to have the vouchers scanned. Till lady said, you've been a lucky lady! LOL.
That's just a small example of how shopping is not expensive, AND can be fun!
Food and shopping in the UK today, is not expensive. At all. Not IF your f head is screwed on looking forwards instead of back! Now pop across to the continent, and yeah, your shopping will be dearer. A fking sight dearer in some as I'm sure you know, but that little point passes by dicks in the night!
Sleep tight.
So, since Margaret set us up the single market in the EU, everything is great!king jerk you are! Food is cheaper now than it's ever been. Our weekly shop was dearer in the 80s than now. Mind you, we're lucky we have all the supermarkets round here and have the time to shop all (the only way you can save big time). You turn this into a Brexit thing over a f
king minor price increase of a kit kat bar. Jeezus!Like the Marmite scandal. Unilever backing down because Tesco had the guts to call them out.
You'll go into one supermarket this weekend and find kit kats at a different (usually 'lower') price than another. It's called 'competition'.
If you just shop willy nilly, of course you'll get stung.
f
k me, milk is now only a quid for 4 litres! Even 'REAL' milk ie in-homogenised full cream (not f
king ste red-top skimmed that pours like white paint) - 8 litres can be bought in Waitrose for £3. http://www.waitrose.com/shop/DisplayProductFlyout?...
Just THREE QUID for EIGHT litres of REAL milk.
At the same time I got a large tub of Rose's chocs, usually six quid in most places, for £3.60. Just carry a Waitrose card and before you leave, why pay f
king Starbucks 3 quid for a coffee, get one free in Waitrose! http://www.waitrose.com/shop/DisplayProductFlyout?...
LOL See it's easy if you know where it's cheaper. Shop around. Your weekly bill drops. Instead of being on PH NP&E every f
king moment, look online and find the deals it pays! LOLIn the 80s Milk was almost double the price today. So f. off with your Remoanian crap.
And no, I'm not a Waitrose 'shopper' per se, as said, we shop ALL.
Last week Sainsbury's were doing their Nectar voucher bonus spend 10 quid min, and get a Nectar voucher worth min 200 point (a quid) but you could get 500 pts, 1000pts, 2000 or 5000 pts - those who knew about it got more than a f
king kit kat bar! I went into their petrol station and did what half the queuing customers (in the know) were doing. I did 5 fill ups of a tenner a time. Fill up tenner. Pump back, fill again ditto. Was it worth it? yeah, 1 5000 pts (25quid!), 2 200s, and 2 500s and the last fill came out of the tank at 6quid... staff said make it up to a tenner with something in the station, so I bought two 200gram bars of Cadbury choc. 2 f. quid each! But hey presto, I got a 2000 pts voucher! All in all, I spent 50 quid (46 quid on fuel, 4 quid on chocolate). I came out with vouchers worth 41 quid! LOL. Cost of living eh? Full tank for a fiver effectively. I won't tell you how much we got over that weekend in vouchers doing the shop inside the store, hilarious! Wife went in Sainsbury's this morning to have the vouchers scanned. Till lady said, you've been a lucky lady! LOL.That's just a small example of how shopping is not expensive, AND can be fun!
Food and shopping in the UK today, is not expensive. At all. Not IF your f head is screwed on looking forwards instead of back! Now pop across to the continent, and yeah, your shopping will be dearer. A f
king sight dearer in some as I'm sure you know, but that little point passes by dicks in the night!Sleep tight.
Couldn't agree more, lets U-Turn, this brexit is turning out totally s
t 
Edited by ///ajd on Saturday 22 October 10:26
danllama said:
Alpinestars said:
Ahbefive said:
I'm not sure you understand how democratic voting works. The majority voted FOR Brexit.
The majority OF THOSE WHO VOTED, voted for Brexit. That was not a majority of the people. Shoegrip said:
Well, each day is a learning day so I'm happy to be corrected.
With democratic voting, the option which gets the most votes is the option that is taken up. The problem as I see it, is that this doesn't necessarily bring about the best outcome for the people as many of the people may not understand the consequences of their vote or not even appreciate they need to vote.
This is made even worse in the modern system of exit votes and advance poles. With regards to the latest referendum, the concept of leaving seemed so ridiculous that many didn't vote as they relied on others to do their work for them. Others didn't vote as they believed that the subject matter didn't warrant voting on as whether we are in the EU or not didn't matter to them.
In any, case, we are where we are and the focus now needs to be to make the best of a bad job.
The weak £ is a great opportunity, the potential freedom to negotiate a trade deals which benefit us without recourse to anyone other than the trading partner gives a little more freedom, I say a little more as the EU will still have some influence as we want to trade with them too and they will have strength to do that. There are many other benefits if we choose to take them up rather than looking backwards.
On a personal front, my business relies very little on imports[/b[ but we have good potential to export, now even better. Yes, prices go up but because competitors rely more heavily on imports, [b]we can put our prices up on their coat tails of market pricing.
So you're happy to use Brexit as an excuse to screw over your customers? Nice.With democratic voting, the option which gets the most votes is the option that is taken up. The problem as I see it, is that this doesn't necessarily bring about the best outcome for the people as many of the people may not understand the consequences of their vote or not even appreciate they need to vote.
This is made even worse in the modern system of exit votes and advance poles. With regards to the latest referendum, the concept of leaving seemed so ridiculous that many didn't vote as they relied on others to do their work for them. Others didn't vote as they believed that the subject matter didn't warrant voting on as whether we are in the EU or not didn't matter to them.
In any, case, we are where we are and the focus now needs to be to make the best of a bad job.
The weak £ is a great opportunity, the potential freedom to negotiate a trade deals which benefit us without recourse to anyone other than the trading partner gives a little more freedom, I say a little more as the EU will still have some influence as we want to trade with them too and they will have strength to do that. There are many other benefits if we choose to take them up rather than looking backwards.
On a personal front, my business relies very little on imports[/b[ but we have good potential to export, now even better. Yes, prices go up but because competitors rely more heavily on imports, [b]we can put our prices up on their coat tails of market pricing.
danllama said:
Alpinestars said:
Ahbefive said:
I'm not sure you understand how democratic voting works. The majority voted FOR Brexit.
The majority OF THOSE WHO VOTED, voted for Brexit. That was not a majority of the people. The statement that the majority voted for Brexit is incorrect. I didn't state whether those who voted matter, just correcting an incorrect statement.
Alpinestars said:
danllama said:
Alpinestars said:
Ahbefive said:
I'm not sure you understand how democratic voting works. The majority voted FOR Brexit.
The majority OF THOSE WHO VOTED, voted for Brexit. That was not a majority of the people. The statement that the majority voted for Brexit is incorrect. I didn't state whether those who voted matter, just correcting an incorrect statement.
The joys of the English language eh?
Alpinestars said:
And?
The statement that the majority voted for Brexit is incorrect. I didn't state whether those who voted matter, just correcting an incorrect statement.
It's not incorrect.The statement that the majority voted for Brexit is incorrect. I didn't state whether those who voted matter, just correcting an incorrect statement.
The statement doesn't explicitly state whether it's a voting majority, a majority of those eligible to vote, a majority of the UK or a majority of the EU. There's a pretty obvious implicit suggestion when referring to a vote though.
768 said:
It's not incorrect.
The statement doesn't explicitly state whether it's a voting majority, a majority of those eligible to vote, a majority of the UK or a majority of the EU. There's a pretty obvious implicit suggestion when referring to a vote though.
It is. The statement doesn't explicitly state whether it's a voting majority, a majority of those eligible to vote, a majority of the UK or a majority of the EU. There's a pretty obvious implicit suggestion when referring to a vote though.
The subject matter is the population. Not those that voted. Re read the original post and response.
Ahbefive said:
Shoegrip said:
the crying shame of all of this is that a populations minority is able to drag the majority into a position where they will suffer financially for many years.
I'm not sure you understand how democratic voting works. The majority voted FOR Brexit.sidicks said:
So you're happy to use Brexit as an excuse to screw over your customers? Nice.
Not sure if screw over is the most appropriate term but keeping our prices in line with the market is the intention so we gan maximum return on investment. That will give us more money to invest and grow the business creating more jobs and improving the product for future customers. Or we could just keep the money for ourselves but we already make a reasonable living so that wouldn't be the most advantgious for the business. All quite predictable at this early stage but there is much more to come yet before we can see the long term effects.
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