White Flight and failing Integration

White Flight and failing Integration

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Boosted LS1

21,189 posts

261 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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"There are huge problems in the Pakistani/Muslim community, stuff like marrying cousins and the subsequent birth defects"

I had the misfortune to visit an english Pakistani house a few years ago where all seemed normal on the surface. An ordinary couple with 2 children. It was as I was leaving the house that I heard a young girl calling out from a locked room. I realised things weren't right. I was subsequently told that she was handicapped as a result of inbreeding. The noises were disturbing.

del mar

Original Poster:

2,838 posts

200 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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desolate said:
These figures are a bit out of date but at this time of night it's the best i can do

More specifically, the proportion of people who live in low-income households is:

20% for White people.
30% for Indians and Black Caribbeans.
50% for Black Africans.
60% for Pakistanis.
70% for Bangladeshis.


Relatively speaking many more "Asian" people are poor compared to white people. Poverty drives certain types of criminality.
As you appear to have a great car I will give credit to your late night numbers.

This would suggest as most studies do that BAME / non eu migrants tend to be non contributors to the fiscal system, not living in "technical poverty" does not mean you are a contributor.

Working on the basis that Pakistani Bangladeshi and 25% of the Black African number, which make up our muslim population, the above suggests they are a huge drain on our system. Whereas other religions tend not to be. The Indian population appears not to be as great a drain.

Luckily they bring all manner of social and cultural benefits, so that balances out the financial drain....

Even some of the useless white people we have on sink hole housing estates don't appear to be as big a drain. Yet people are trying to compare the two

I have said I felt there are no benefits to the UK of Non Eu migration, which may be unfair, some are of great value, unfortunately I struggle to see any benefits from the Muslim countries.

Cries of Islamaphobe will surely follow, but giving any credit to the above numbers, they are a huge financial drain.









Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Boosted LS1 said:
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"There are huge problems in the Pakistani/Muslim community, stuff like marrying cousins and the subsequent birth defects"

I had the misfortune to visit an english Pakistani house a few years ago where all seemed normal on the surface. An ordinary couple with 2 children. It was as I was leaving the house that I heard a young girl calling out from a locked room. I realised things weren't right. I was subsequently told that she was handicapped as a result of inbreeding. The noises were disturbing.
Definitely happened

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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del mar said:
As you appear to have a great car I will give credit to your late night numbers.
Unfortunately that car is long gone, as is its replacement.


del mar said:
This would suggest as most studies do that BAME / non eu migrants tend to be non contributors to the fiscal system, not living in "technical poverty" does not mean you are a contributor.

Working on the basis that Pakistani Bangladeshi and 25% of the Black African number, which make up our muslim population, the above suggests they are a huge drain on our system. Whereas other religions tend not to be. The Indian population appears not to be as great a drain.

Luckily they bring all manner of social and cultural benefits, so that balances out the financial drain....

Even some of the useless white people we have on sink hole housing estates don't appear to be as big a drain. Yet people are trying to compare the two

I have said I felt there are no benefits to the UK of Non Eu migration, which may be unfair, some are of great value, unfortunately I struggle to see any benefits from the Muslim countries.

Cries of Islamaphobe will surely follow, but giving any credit to the above numbers, they are a huge financial drain.
I'd have to do some research to argue with you.

del mar

Original Poster:

2,838 posts

200 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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desolate said:
del mar said:
As you appear to have a great car I will give credit to your late night numbers.
Unfortunately that car is long gone, as is its replacement.


del mar said:
This would suggest as most studies do that BAME / non eu migrants tend to be non contributors to the fiscal system, not living in "technical poverty" does not mean you are a contributor.

Working on the basis that Pakistani Bangladeshi and 25% of the Black African number, which make up our muslim population, the above suggests they are a huge drain on our system. Whereas other religions tend not to be. The Indian population appears not to be as great a drain.

Luckily they bring all manner of social and cultural benefits, so that balances out the financial drain....

Even some of the useless white people we have on sink hole housing estates don't appear to be as big a drain. Yet people are trying to compare the two

I have said I felt there are no benefits to the UK of Non Eu migration, which may be unfair, some are of great value, unfortunately I struggle to see any benefits from the Muslim countries.

Cries of Islamaphobe will surely follow, but giving any credit to the above numbers, they are a huge financial drain.
I'd have to do some research to argue with you.
Based on that news, I will have to withdraw my comment regarding the accuracy of your numbers, however it is certainly a cool thing to have owned

Was it any good ?

Boosted LS1

21,189 posts

261 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Dindoit said:
Boosted LS1 said:
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"There are huge problems in the Pakistani/Muslim community, stuff like marrying cousins and the subsequent birth defects"

I had the misfortune to visit an english Pakistani house a few years ago where all seemed normal on the surface. An ordinary couple with 2 children. It was as I was leaving the house that I heard a young girl calling out from a locked room. I realised things weren't right. I was subsequently told that she was handicapped as a result of inbreeding. The noises were disturbing.
Definitely happened
Yes, I was told that they kept her out of the way, the hidden one. The other children seemed quite normal.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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del mar said:
desolate said:
These figures are a bit out of date but at this time of night it's the best i can do

More specifically, the proportion of people who live in low-income households is:

20% for White people.
30% for Indians and Black Caribbeans.
50% for Black Africans.
60% for Pakistanis.
70% for Bangladeshis.


Relatively speaking many more "Asian" people are poor compared to white people. Poverty drives certain types of criminality.
As you appear to have a great car I will give credit to your late night numbers.

This would suggest as most studies do that BAME / non eu migrants tend to be non contributors to the fiscal system, not living in "technical poverty" does not mean you are a contributor.

Working on the basis that Pakistani Bangladeshi and 25% of the Black African number, which make up our muslim population, the above suggests they are a huge drain on our system. Whereas other religions tend not to be. The Indian population appears not to be as great a drain.

Luckily they bring all manner of social and cultural benefits, so that balances out the financial drain....

Even some of the useless white people we have on sink hole housing estates don't appear to be as big a drain. Yet people are trying to compare the two

I have said I felt there are no benefits to the UK of Non Eu migration, which may be unfair, some are of great value, unfortunately I struggle to see any benefits from the Muslim countries.

Cries of Islamaphobe will surely follow, but giving any credit to the above numbers, they are a huge financial drain.


Was a government commissioned report, created a reasonable stir at the time, but nothing we didn't know. Uk Pakistanis a big problem, and thier children are creating an underclass with zero respect for the law.

magnum555

473 posts

160 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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J4CKO said:
There are huge problems in the Pakistani/Muslim community,
There's also huge problems in the White/British community.

gruffalo

7,534 posts

227 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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magnum555 said:
J4CKO said:
There are huge problems in the Pakistani/Muslim community,
There's also huge problems in the White/British community.
Yes but the white British problems are home grown so our problems.

Why the hell would we want to import 3rd world problems.

magnum555

473 posts

160 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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gruffalo said:
magnum555 said:
J4CKO said:
There are huge problems in the Pakistani/Muslim community,
There's also huge problems in the White/British community.
Yes but the white British problems are home grown so our problems.

Why the hell would we want to import 3rd world problems.
You need to read up on history, I'll give you a clue Colonialism. Those so called 3rd world problems that you refer to were created by the British they are very much British problems rofl

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

78 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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magnum555 said:
You need to read up on history, I'll give you a clue Colonialism. Those so called 3rd world problems that you refer to were created by the British they are very much British problems rofl
No they were not, to try and claim the problems that modern Pakistan and the attitudes of the population that come from there is "because colonialism" is just pathetic beyond any comparison (unless you are a cabbage).


Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Friday 26th January 08:55

magnum555

473 posts

160 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
magnum555 said:
You need to read up on history, I'll give you a clue Colonialism. Those so called 3rd world problems that you refer to were created by the British they are very much British problems rofl
No they were not, to try and claim the problems that modern Pakistan and the attitudes of the population that come from there is "because colonialism" is just pathetic beyond and comparison.
Guess you can't handle the truth.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

78 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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magnum555 said:
Guess you can't handle the truth.
Go on, enlighten us on why are the social attitudes of modern low skilled and poorly educated modern Pakistani men is the result of "because colonialism".


Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Friday 26th January 09:05

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

173 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
magnum555 said:
Guess you can't handle the truth.
Go on, enlighten us on why are the social attitudes of modern low skilled and poorly educated modern Pakistani men is the result of "because colonialism".


Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Friday 26th January 09:05
He won't be able to because.....cabbage.

magnum555

473 posts

160 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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Ahbefive said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
magnum555 said:
Guess you can't handle the truth.
Go on, enlighten us on why are the social attitudes of modern low skilled and poorly educated modern Pakistani men is the result of "because colonialism".


Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Friday 26th January 09:05
He won't be able to because.....cabbage.
The British way, "bury your head in the sand".

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

78 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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magnum555 said:
The British way, "bury your head in the sand".
Rather that putting up one line troll-posts, answer the question which you seem so sure about. You made a statement, enlighten us about the basic reasons for that statement.

Personally, I blame Alexander the Great and his nasty Macedonian ways

The Dangerous Elk said:

why are the social attitudes of modern low skilled and poorly educated modern Pakistani men the result of "because colonialism".
Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Friday 26th January 09:50

cranford10

350 posts

117 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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magnum555 said:
You need to read up on history, I'll give you a clue Colonialism. Those so called 3rd world problems that you refer to were created by the British they are very much British problems rofl
Hello Lily byebye

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

78 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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magnum555, you are starting to sprout.


theplayingmantis

3,843 posts

83 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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magnum555 said:
gruffalo said:
magnum555 said:
J4CKO said:
There are huge problems in the Pakistani/Muslim community,
There's also huge problems in the White/British community.
Yes but the white British problems are home grown so our problems.

Why the hell would we want to import 3rd world problems.
You need to read up on history, I'll give you a clue Colonialism. Those so called 3rd world problems that you refer to were created by the British they are very much British problems rofl
not wanting to join this thread, but love to here your reasoning and evidence behind this. how were they created by colonialism? Other than the fact colonialism gave them an intrinsic link with the imperial motherland.

oakdale

1,807 posts

203 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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I blame the Romans, we were innocent before they came over here showing us how to colonize.