Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)

Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)

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BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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It will be interesting to see what happens to EU immigration over the next 2 years prior to the article 50 period expiring. It wouldn't be a surprise to see significantly more immigration from then EU in the next two years than we've seen over the past 4 or 5 years.

p1stonhead

25,603 posts

168 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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BlackLabel said:
It will be interesting to see what happens to EU immigration over the next 2 years prior to the article 50 period expiring. It wouldn't be a surprise to see significantly more immigration from then EU in the next two years than we've seen over the past 4 or 5 years.
yes if its not instant, itll be a huge rush id expect.

And interesting that she says parliament will have a say on whether they like the final deal. I wonder what will happen if a majority dont like it?

Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 17th January 12:38

bazza white

3,564 posts

129 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Quick question, why cant trade agreement talks with other nations begin now for agreements to start when we leave the EU.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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bazza white said:
Quick question, why cant trade agreement talks with other nations begin now for agreements to start when we leave the EU.
They have.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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bazza white said:
Quick question, why cant trade agreement talks with other nations begin now for agreements to start when we leave the EU.
Eu tell us we can't..what they would do if we ignored them is anybody's guess.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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alfie2244 said:
bazza white said:
Quick question, why cant trade agreement talks with other nations begin now for agreements to start when we leave the EU.
Eu tell us we can't..what they would do if we ignored them is anybody's guess.
Alfie we can talk to whoever we like......just can't sign anything.

FiF

44,204 posts

252 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Jockman said:
bazza white said:
Quick question, why cant trade agreement talks with other nations begin now for agreements to start when we leave the EU.
They have.
And yet, after the news from Trump of a deal, the EU response was that it would be illegal for the UK to even start any negotiations until the day after we leave. Personally I think they are talking ballocks.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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BlackLabel said:
It will be interesting to see what happens to EU immigration over the next 2 years prior to the article 50 period expiring. It wouldn't be a surprise to see significantly more immigration from then EU in the next two years than we've seen over the past 4 or 5 years.
Why would they want to come here. Aren't we about to implode?

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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FiF said:
Jockman said:
bazza white said:
Quick question, why cant trade agreement talks with other nations begin now for agreements to start when we leave the EU.
They have.
And yet, after the news from Trump of a deal, the EU response was that it would be illegal for the UK to even start any negotiations until the day after we leave. Personally I think they are talking ballocks.
yes

Weren't we talking trade with the chap from NZ too?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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FiF said:
Jockman said:
bazza white said:
Quick question, why cant trade agreement talks with other nations begin now for agreements to start when we leave the EU.
They have.
And yet, after the news from Trump of a deal, the EU response was that it would be illegal for the UK to even start any negotiations until the day after we leave. Personally I think they are talking ballocks.
That is waht I was led to believe.....no negotiations until we have left.

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Well, I think it's now quite safe to say that no, the UK will not be doing U-turn on the referendum result. smile

loose cannon

6,030 posts

242 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Amen close the thread ! woohoo

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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chris watton said:
Well, I think it's now quite safe to say that no, the UK will not be doing U-turn on the referendum result. smile
So what about these Judges?

Also what happens after the 2 votes in HOL & HOC if they don't agree the deal after negotiations?

p1stonhead

25,603 posts

168 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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alfie2244 said:
chris watton said:
Well, I think it's now quite safe to say that no, the UK will not be doing U-turn on the referendum result. smile
So what about these Judges?

Also what happens after the 2 votes in HOL & HOC if they don't agree the deal after negotiations?
Second Ref on the deal on the table or G.E are the only options I can see.

Basically a huge fking mess to wade through!

Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 17th January 13:18

rscott

14,789 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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barryrs said:
rscott said:
bmw535i said:
rscott said:
Presumably she'll announce some changes to non EU migration rules to take effect immediately? If she's serious about reducing migration, that has to be part of the strategy.
Possibly, although that is already an area where there are more and more controls imposed regularly (as discussed previously)
So we should see it drop fairly substantially over the next year or so?
I think we will see an increase in the short term however once the rules that apply to the rest of the world apply to all I expect to see a reduction in unskilled migration.

I personally expect immigration levels to remain fairly consistent with a more diverse makeup.
Non-EU migration seems to have been between 150,000 & 250,000 per year for the past 20 years or so. I'd assume that'll remain at a similar level going forward.

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Brexit apparently means "Brexit".

Who'd a thunk it?


alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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p1stonhead said:
alfie2244 said:
chris watton said:
Well, I think it's now quite safe to say that no, the UK will not be doing U-turn on the referendum result. smile
So what about these Judges?

Also what happens after the 2 votes in HOL & HOC if they don't agree the deal after negotiations?
Second Ref on the deal on the table or G.E are the only options I can see.

Basically a huge fking mess to wade through!

Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 17th January 13:18
Knobhead Farron spitting his dummy out and wants a referendum.

p1stonhead

25,603 posts

168 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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alfie2244 said:
p1stonhead said:
alfie2244 said:
chris watton said:
Well, I think it's now quite safe to say that no, the UK will not be doing U-turn on the referendum result. smile
So what about these Judges?

Also what happens after the 2 votes in HOL & HOC if they don't agree the deal after negotiations?
Second Ref on the deal on the table or G.E are the only options I can see.

Basically a huge fking mess to wade through!

Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 17th January 13:18
Knobhead Farron spitting his dummy out and wants a referendum.
If the government cant agree between themselves though and come to a stalemate, what other choice would there be? I genuinely dont know how else it could happen - take it out of their hands surely? Albeit, another ref would be ridiculous, how else could it go through unless they put it back to the people and agree they would just so what we said?

It wouldnt be 'Leave/Stay' it would be;

1. Leave as presented!
2. Try again please....

Actually yeah, that wouldnt work very well hehe

Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 17th January 13:30

paulrockliffe

15,735 posts

228 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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p1stonhead said:
If the government cant agree between themselves though and come to a stalemate, what other choice would there be? I genuinely dont know how else it could happen - take it out of their hands surely? Albeit, another ref would be ridiculous, how else could it go through unless they put it back to the people and agree they would just so what we said?

It would be 'Leave/Stay' it would be;

1. Leave as presented!
2. Try again please....

Actually yeah, that wouldnt work very well hehe
It would be leave as presented or leave as dictated by the treaty.

There won't be a referendum, a GE with manfiesto commitment would be a more certain vehicle to use to get a mandate.

Edited by paulrockliffe on Tuesday 17th January 13:30

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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KimJongHealthy said:
Funny since the message sent to the world was the exact opposite - we don't want you here, we don't want to trade with you, so long, and thanks for all the fish.
Is that really the message, or is that what the remoaners want people to believe, so push this message themselves?