Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)

Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)

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PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Hey, did you know not a single person voted to join the EU?

Makes you think huh ...

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Pan Pan Pan

9,905 posts

111 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Hey, did you know not a single person voted to join the EU?

Makes you think huh ...

spin
Yes it does, hence my question regarding why it was Ok for the government to take the UK into the EU without asking the people if this was what they wanted, but it somehow is not OK for the government to take the UK out of the EU now, (even after the majority of the voters in the UK voted for OUT in the 2016 referendum on the matter).

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Sway said:
Come on chap, fair enough on wires crossed, but a 6% yoy growth is hardly 'just brought us flat', and yes - money actually spent does trump a consumer confidence survey, by definition.
Q1 was negative, ytd is flat

Sway

26,276 posts

194 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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jakesmith said:
Sway said:
Come on chap, fair enough on wires crossed, but a 6% yoy growth is hardly 'just brought us flat', and yes - money actually spent does trump a consumer confidence survey, by definition.
Q1 was negative, ytd is flat
I gave a source for my figures, the ONS. Here it is again:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/businessindustryandtrade/re...

Fancy giving the backup to your claim?

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

243 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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BlackLabel said:
Chapman sounds a bit of a muppet and PH reader of the vocal end of the Remain folk here, mainly because his big argument was the big red bus rage often repeated here - what about that £350M eh.

loafer123

15,442 posts

215 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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I don't get why Chapman is relevant. He once worked for Davis...so what?

FiF

44,086 posts

251 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Well who'd have thought this, LSE and Oxford Uni study, what Britons really want from Brexit

Seems to be relatively low level of support for 'soft Brexit' and surprising numbers of Leavers and Remainers support 'harder Brexit.


FiF

44,086 posts

251 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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BlackLabel said:
Regardless of anyone's opinion of him Rees-Mogg is hitting the nail in the head. A proposed party calling itself The Democrats whose stated first intention is to overturn a democratic decision. What a set of Muppets.

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

243 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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FiF said:
Well who'd have thought this, LSE and Oxford Uni study, what Britons really want from Brexit

Seems to be relatively low level of support for 'soft Brexit' and surprising numbers of Leavers and Remainers support 'harder Brexit.
Can't be. I read here everyone was against any kinda hard Brexit now, even those voted for it.

Nothingtoseehere

7,379 posts

154 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
FiF said:
Well who'd have thought this, LSE and Oxford Uni study, what Britons really want from Brexit

Seems to be relatively low level of support for 'soft Brexit' and surprising numbers of Leavers and Remainers support 'harder Brexit.
Can't be. I read here everyone was against any kinda hard Brexit now, even those voted for it.
I've completely changed my mind,we should double the 350 mil,push for joining the euro and I'm getting a Verhofstadt haircut.
You know it makes sense.

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Nothingtoseehere said:
Deptford Draylons said:
FiF said:
Well who'd have thought this, LSE and Oxford Uni study, what Britons really want from Brexit

Seems to be relatively low level of support for 'soft Brexit' and surprising numbers of Leavers and Remainers support 'harder Brexit.
Can't be. I read here everyone was against any kinda hard Brexit now, even those voted for it.
I've completely changed my mind,we should double the 350 mil,push for joining the euro and I'm getting a Verhofstadt haircut.
You know it makes sense.
You know you can't get his haircut? In fact, nobody gets it!

IMO it's about time his full name was more widely known.

Guy Maurice Marie Louise Verhofstadt

At least his parents had a sense of humour. hehe


Poor old Guy. He really has the EU at heart. Read his books, they give a good insight to his aims.

The United States of Europe (what a surprise title, eh?)

The New Age of Empires. (hmm, no surprise there either)

How about this one. I recommend it!
Emerging from the Crisis: How Europe can Save the World.rolleyes

Nothingtoseehere

7,379 posts

154 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Hope they're hardback.
Should really get my log burner going.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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loafer123 said:
I don't get why Chapman is relevant. He once worked for Davis...so what?
He's also whining about what he sees as anti immigrant brexiteers yet as political editor of the Daily Mail he was happy to sign off on headlines like the ones below.

And now he's somehow the messiah for the left wing media and a bastion of liberal values.






///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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BlackLabel said:
He's also whining about what he sees as anti immigrant brexiteers yet as political editor of the Daily Mail he was happy to sign off on headlines like the ones below.

And now he's somehow the messiah for the left wing media and a bastion of liberal values.



You can take that another way - it was just a load of old UKIP click bait that was never supposed to be taken seriously.

But it has been, and now some of the guilty are saying "er hang on a minute....."

It still reminds me of Boris' "oh fck" face on the 24 June. It spoke a thosand words - including "how long will I have to pretend this is a good idea". Quite a long time it seems Boris, quite a long time. And no, your career can't survive the fallout, no. Hence the face.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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You should go into fantasy fiction.









Oh, you have,

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

243 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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///ajd said:
You can take that another way - it was just a load of old UKIP click bait that was never supposed to be taken seriously.

But it has been, and now some of the guilty are saying "er hang on a minute....."

It still reminds me of Boris' "oh fck" face on the 24 June. It spoke a thosand words - including "how long will I have to pretend this is a good idea". Quite a long time it seems Boris, quite a long time. And no, your career can't survive the fallout, no. Hence the face.
As the PH leading ( but Eddie is coming up fast ) EU flag waver, that was a valiant defence you put forward, but also ultimately a bit lame.

amgmcqueen

3,346 posts

150 months

Sunday 13th August 2017
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One of the chuckle brothers isn't happy....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/dav...

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

243 months

Sunday 13th August 2017
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amgmcqueen said:
One of the chuckle brothers isn't happy....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/dav...
Another one who wants to rerun the referendum in the hope of getting the result he wanted. I guess at least he and ///ajd are at least open in not giving a toss about having any respect for a referendum outcome.

rs1952

5,247 posts

259 months

Sunday 13th August 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
amgmcqueen said:
One of the chuckle brothers isn't happy....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/dav...
Another one who wants to rerun the referendum in the hope of getting the result he wanted. I guess at least he and ///ajd are at least open in not giving a toss about having any respect for a referendum outcome.
Well - taking that to a logical conclusion perhaps you can tell us how long a referendum vote stands as being "the will of the people"

After all, we had a referendum on what became the EU in 1975 and we voted to stay in. I voted to stay in.

Apparently, nobody now gives a flying fk about my democratic decision back then, and the rest of the 60+% who voted that way.

It logically therefore follows that referendum results do not stand for all eternity.

So how long do you think it ought to stand? Because the day after I'll be out campaigning again, along with a "chuckle brother," apparently... wink