Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)
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Eddie Strohacker said:
jsf said:
The only thing that has changed is the technology.
Not true. The changes are manifold. The scale is huge & has taken the west by surprise. The method of delivery is directly into people's devices. It's interactive & moreover truly deceitful by purporting to be natives of the countries they're actually undermining.
Would strongly suggest you google @DavidJo52951945 if you have even the slightest curiosity about the reach of these operations.
As technology changes the methods used to get your message across change. Nothing has fundamentally changed, you can go back as far as you like in history and propaganda has always been used.
The only difference now is there is less of a filter between the perpetrator and the receiver, you used to have to get the mainstream media on board to be successful on a grand scale, now you use the technology to directly target your audience.
This is the same for any message driven industry such as advertising.
jsf said:
Which is all because of the technology changes.
As technology changes the methods used to get your message across change. Nothing has fundamentally changed, you can go back as far as you like in history and propaganda has always been used.
The only difference now is there is less of a filter between the perpetrator and the receiver, you used to have to get the mainstream media on board to be successful on a grand scale, now you use the technology to directly target your audience.
This is the same for any message driven industry such as advertising.
You are applying an extremely narrow view to a phenomenon that has caught governments across the west off balance. I'm happy for you to breeze through with no concerns, I don't share your view & neither do serious commentators.As technology changes the methods used to get your message across change. Nothing has fundamentally changed, you can go back as far as you like in history and propaganda has always been used.
The only difference now is there is less of a filter between the perpetrator and the receiver, you used to have to get the mainstream media on board to be successful on a grand scale, now you use the technology to directly target your audience.
This is the same for any message driven industry such as advertising.
Eddie Strohacker said:
You are applying an extremely narrow view to a phenomenon that has caught governments across the west off balance. I'm happy for you to breeze through with no concerns, I don't share your view & neither do serious commentators.
You mean all those serious commentators who are in the MSM that is being bypassed?, cant think why they would have a problem with it.What is almost certainly going to happen is we are going to have increasing censorship on social media. At the start of the process they will say it is targeting those on the extreme right, but it will quickly become apparent that this also includes anyone who is against open borders and the broader globalist agenda.
JagLover said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
You are applying an extremely narrow view to a phenomenon that has caught governments across the west off balance. I'm happy for you to breeze through with no concerns, I don't share your view & neither do serious commentators.
You mean all those serious commentators who are in the MSM that is being bypassed?, cant think why they would have a problem with it.What is almost certainly going to happen is we are going to have increasing censorship on social media. At the start of the process they will say it is targeting those on the extreme right, but it will quickly become apparent that this also includes anyone who is against open borders and the broader globalist agenda.
Eddie Strohacker said:
You are applying an extremely narrow view to a phenomenon that has caught governments across the west off balance.
Rubbish. Governments across the west know exactly what Russia is or isn't up to. Twitter is a walk in the park to keep track of compared to military movements.I've still seen no open source evidence of any impact from confirmed Russia bots.
bmw535i said:
///ajd said:
You’re a strange strange person768 said:
Rubbish.
Always lovely when a correspondent opens on a conciliatory note...768 said:
Governments across the west know exactly what Russia is or isn't up to.
Zat so? I guess you can't have followed the US election very closely then.768 said:
Twitter is a walk in the park to keep track of compared to military movements.
Wut? Of no relevance whatsoever.768 said:
I've still seen no open source evidence of any impact from confirmed Russia bots.
I've never seen Game of Thrones. Does that mean it doesn't exist?Eddie Strohacker said:
768 said:
I've still seen no open source evidence of any impact from confirmed Russia bots.
I've never seen Game of Thrones. Does that mean it doesn't exist?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giYeaKsXnsI
i have to take my hat off to eddie, ajd and mx5 nut. this thread has gone on long past its sell by date solely down to their ability as fishermen (good to see them prepare for brexit britain 
). every single negative brexit item the msm can come up with they bait their hooks with and throw the line out in this thread.
every single time without failure they not only get a bite but a full hook up and landing,every time. i wish the people biting at what i can only describe as the worst bait known to man would swim by just for two or three days and let the thread develop into the unchallenged echo chamber it deserves to be.
after two or three days have a read at the dross being posted then laugh at just how gullible you have been to keep biting at bait tossed out by three expert fishermen. go on, give it a go just for s
ts and giggles.
as for the russian troll bots, putin could learn a thing or three from the above trio.
). every single negative brexit item the msm can come up with they bait their hooks with and throw the line out in this thread.every single time without failure they not only get a bite but a full hook up and landing,every time. i wish the people biting at what i can only describe as the worst bait known to man would swim by just for two or three days and let the thread develop into the unchallenged echo chamber it deserves to be.
after two or three days have a read at the dross being posted then laugh at just how gullible you have been to keep biting at bait tossed out by three expert fishermen. go on, give it a go just for s
ts and giggles.as for the russian troll bots, putin could learn a thing or three from the above trio.
wc98 said:
i have to take my hat off to eddie, ajd and mx5 nut. this thread has gone on long past its sell by date solely down to their ability as fishermen (good to see them prepare for brexit britain ). every single negative brexit item the msm can come up with they bait their hooks with and throw the line out in this thread.
every single time without failure they not only get a bite but a full hook up and landing,every time. i wish the people biting at what i can only describe as the worst bait known to man would swim by just for two or three days and let the thread develop into the unchallenged echo chamber it deserves to be.
after two or three days have a read at the dross being posted then laugh at just how gullible you have been to keep biting at bait tossed out by three expert fishermen. go on, give it a go just for sts and giggles.
as for the russian troll bots, putin could learn a thing or three from the above trio.
I did try for a few days honest guv but I'll give it another go although I think there are a couple more "fishermen" to be added to that list..............so no bites from me until mmmmmm let see..............Monday morning. ). every single negative brexit item the msm can come up with they bait their hooks with and throw the line out in this thread.every single time without failure they not only get a bite but a full hook up and landing,every time. i wish the people biting at what i can only describe as the worst bait known to man would swim by just for two or three days and let the thread develop into the unchallenged echo chamber it deserves to be.
after two or three days have a read at the dross being posted then laugh at just how gullible you have been to keep biting at bait tossed out by three expert fishermen. go on, give it a go just for s
ts and giggles.as for the russian troll bots, putin could learn a thing or three from the above trio.
But I will be watching
wc98 said:
i have to take my hat off to eddie, ajd and mx5 nut. this thread has gone on long past its sell by date solely down to their ability as fishermen (good to see them prepare for brexit britain ). every single negative brexit item the msm can come up with they bait their hooks with and throw the line out in this thread.
every single time without failure they not only get a bite but a full hook up and landing,every time. i wish the people biting at what i can only describe as the worst bait known to man would swim by just for two or three days and let the thread develop into the unchallenged echo chamber it deserves to be.
after two or three days have a read at the dross being posted then laugh at just how gullible you have been to keep biting at bait tossed out by three expert fishermen. go on, give it a go just for sts and giggles.
as for the russian troll bots, putin could learn a thing or three from the above trio.
Its not as if we're unaware of this.). every single negative brexit item the msm can come up with they bait their hooks with and throw the line out in this thread.every single time without failure they not only get a bite but a full hook up and landing,every time. i wish the people biting at what i can only describe as the worst bait known to man would swim by just for two or three days and let the thread develop into the unchallenged echo chamber it deserves to be.
after two or three days have a read at the dross being posted then laugh at just how gullible you have been to keep biting at bait tossed out by three expert fishermen. go on, give it a go just for s
ts and giggles.as for the russian troll bots, putin could learn a thing or three from the above trio.
Its only a motoring forum and its fun to take the piss.
Funkycoldribena said:
Its not as if we're unaware of this.
Its only a motoring forum and its fun to take the piss.
agreed, you and alfie respond in kind, maybe i should take part more often,it just looks painful when catching up on a few pages. take tuna, posts tend to be informative and thought provoking , to me anyway. in a genuine discussion thread they would have great value. this thread is now a remainiac opinion assertion thread where any reasonable question or point raised is completely ignored in favour of posting more assertions as fact.Its only a motoring forum and its fun to take the piss.
i just thought it would interesting to see how it would develop if the trio had no one biting for a few days, would it be back pats all round having seen off the nasty brexiteers, full steam ahead for eu ref 2 ,or would they become even more frustrated that the stupid brexiteers would no longer be subject to their infinitely greater wisdom and knowledge on everything. maybe i should just read the trump thread to see how that works out
bmw535i said:
Indeed. Also, they’re not actually fishing, they genuinely believe everything they say.
i don't doubt they do, to the point they may well be good candidates for studies on various forms of mania in the future. however i do think they know exactly what they are doing on this thread.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff