EU army

[Camoradi]

"America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests"

Henry Kissinger

True of all states in my opinion

[Earthdweller]

No nation has friends only interests

Charles DeGaulle

[Earthdweller]

Treaties are like girls and roses

They last while they last

Charles DeGaulle

[kurt535]

NorfolkInClue1 said:

kurt535 said:

what is it with norfolk people? you are a breed apart....literally.

Ignorant discrimination, you m
ust be proud.


Standard angremainer.......

I will say living up here has been a sad eye opener for me how poorly educated and narrow minded so many of you are. The change from Suffolk has been markedly noticeable. And the saddest bit is how you take delight in letting everyone know what a narrow minded opinionated individual you are!

[kurt535]

don'tbesilly said:

toppstuff said:

don'tbesilly said:

Unbelievable!

Apropos of nothing, I do not regard an American as a greater friend than a Dutchman or an Estonian.

The US is not really a single nation culturally anyway. I have a lot more in common with some Estonians I know than , say, some Texans I also work with.

I can't see Estonia being much of an ally in any armed conflict can you?
Or perhaps your Estonian friends have some serious military hardware hidden in their garages

Tell me, do you see America as an enemy or an ally, if the former what's changed in 75 odd years?

IRRC 8/9 gave their all in Afghan. They have bigger steels than you will ever have. Good soldiers prepared to stand up and be counted.

[toppstuff]

kurt535 said:

don'tbesilly said:

toppstuff said:

don'tbesilly said:

Unbelievable!

Apropos of nothing, I do not regard an American as a greater friend than a Dutchman or an Estonian.

The US is not really a single nation culturally anyway. I have a lot more in common with some Estonians I know than , say, some Texans I also work with.

I can't see Estonia being much of an ally in any armed conflict can you?
Or perhaps your Estonian friends have some serious military hardware hidden in their garages

Tell me, do you see America as an enemy or an ally, if the former what's changed in 75 odd years?

IRRC 8/9 gave their all in Afghan. They have bigger steels than you will ever have. Good soldiers prepared to stand up and be counted.

You are conflating friends with allies. Not the same things.

No doubt at all that US are great allies - especially at an operational and military level. Some of their politicians are absurd however.

[don'tbesilly]

kurt535 said:

don'tbesilly said:

toppstuff said:

don'tbesilly said:

Unbelievable!

Apropos of nothing, I do not regard an American as a greater friend than a Dutchman or an Estonian.

The US is not really a single nation culturally anyway. I have a lot more in common with some Estonians I know than , say, some Texans I also work with.

I can't see Estonia being much of an ally in any armed conflict can you?
Or perhaps your Estonian friends have some serious military hardware hidden in their garages

Tell me, do you see America as an enemy or an ally, if the former what's changed in 75 odd years?

IRRC 8/9 gave their all in Afghan. They have bigger steels than you will ever have. Good soldiers prepared to stand up and be counted.

I was talking about the ordinary Estonian, or does TS know all the armed personnel in the Estonian armed forces, which given his anecdotes he probably does.

Still you and TS do have some crackers as anecdotes!

'Big Pharma company in Surrey'

[kurt535]

don'tbesilly said:

kurt535 said:

don'tbesilly said:

toppstuff said:

don'tbesilly said:

Unbelievable!

Apropos of nothing, I do not regard an American as a greater friend than a Dutchman or an Estonian.

The US is not really a single nation culturally anyway. I have a lot more in common with some Estonians I know than , say, some Texans I also work with.

I can't see Estonia being much of an ally in any armed conflict can you?
Or perhaps your Estonian friends have some serious military hardware hidden in their garages

Tell me, do you see America as an enemy or an ally, if the former what's changed in 75 odd years?

IRRC 8/9 gave their all in Afghan. They have bigger steels than you will ever have. Good soldiers prepared to stand up and be counted.

I was talking about the ordinary Estonian, or does TS know all the armed personnel in the Estonian armed forces, which given his anecdotes he probably does.

Still you and TS do have some crackers as anecdotes!

'Big Pharma company in Surrey'

you are an armchair warrior on so many fronts. you've been nowhere. done nothing. seen nothing. empty vessels make most sound.

[thetrickcyclist]

kurt535 said:

I will say living up here has been a sad eye opener for me how poorly educated and narrow minded so many of you are. The change from Suffolk has been markedly noticeable. And the saddest bit is how you take delight in letting everyone know what a narrow minded opinionated individual you are!

Well go back from whence you came!

[alfie2244]

kurt535 said:

you are an armchair warrior on so many fronts. you've been nowhere. done nothing. seen nothing. empty vessels make most sound.

You really must stop talking to yourself.

[CrutyRammers]

Countdown said:

otis criblecoblis said:

Europe and the UK is defended massively by the American military umbrella . Absurd to say otherwise, although it seems plenty will.

Absurd to think they're not doing it solely for the benefit of the US.

In short they can either fight Russia in Europe or they can fight them on their own borders. We serve the same purpose for the US that Cuba did for the USSR.

Which is still a long way from being an "enemy", no?

[don'tbesilly]

kurt535 said:

don'tbesilly said:

kurt535 said:

don'tbesilly said:

toppstuff said:

don'tbesilly said:

Unbelievable!

Apropos of nothing, I do not regard an American as a greater friend than a Dutchman or an Estonian.

The US is not really a single nation culturally anyway. I have a lot more in common with some Estonians I know than , say, some Texans I also work with.

I can't see Estonia being much of an ally in any armed conflict can you?
Or perhaps your Estonian friends have some serious military hardware hidden in their garages

Tell me, do you see America as an enemy or an ally, if the former what's changed in 75 odd years?

IRRC 8/9 gave their all in Afghan. They have bigger steels than you will ever have. Good soldiers prepared to stand up and be counted.

I was talking about the ordinary Estonian, or does TS know all the armed personnel in the Estonian armed forces, which given his anecdotes he probably does.

Still you and TS do have some crackers as anecdotes!

'Big Pharma company in Surrey'

you are an armchair warrior on so many fronts. you've been nowhere. done nothing. seen nothing. empty vessels make most sound.

You know nothing about me, but come up with the above and call me an armchair warrior

It's amazing what I know about you, your fantastical life is spread across multiple sub forums on PH, and can at best be described as 'Walt' like.

[anonymous-user]

toppstuff said:

Apropos of nothing, I do not regard an American as a greater friend than a Dutchman or an Estonian.

Indeed but certainly more so than a Frenchman or Spaniard.

[bloomen]

John145 said:

You'll find far more in common with Americans in general than you will with people living only 500 miles to our East.

I've probably spent about a year in total in the US in several states. I've probably spent 2-3 years in Europe in various bits.

Apart from the language, American society is vastly more alien than any European one to me at least. I could never, ever imagine living in the US and feeling any ease. There's plenty of bits of Europe I'd feel fine in.

[anonymous-user]

bloomen said:

...I could never, ever imagine living in the US and feeling any ease. There's plenty of bits of Europe I'd feel fine in.

Likewise I could happily live everywhere I've been in Europe but what is so alien about the US? Who couldn't settle anywhere between places as diverse as Hawaii, Alaska, California, Florida, New England, the Mid West, the Rockies or anywhere in between... There's something for absolutely everyone. Where was your year?

[pistonheads2018]

kurt535 said:

you are an armchair warrior on so many fronts. you've been nowhere. done nothing. seen nothing. empty vessels make most sound.

Where is the ‘irony meter’ gif when you need it?

[bloomen]

fblm said:

Likewise I could happily live everywhere I've been in Europe but what is so alien about the US? Who couldn't settle anywhere between places as diverse as Hawaii, Alaska, California, Florida, New England, the Mid West, the Rockies or anywhere in between... There's something for absolutely everyone. Where was your year?

Nothing about the geography or the people. Both are amazing.

It's the patriotism, religion, psychotic work ethic, health system, justice system, guns, racial tension, lack of public transport and the insane political divisions.

[98elise]

Is there anyone that would actually sign up and join an EU armed force?

I did nearly a decade in the armed forces from school. I would not have signed up if it was an EU armed force.

[anonymous-user]

bloomen said:

Nothing about the geography or the people. Both are amazing.

It's the patriotism, religion, psychotic work ethic, health system, justice system, guns, racial tension, lack of public transport and the insane political divisions.

Some fair points but can't say any of that affected me at all in 6 years in NYC although the slack jawed patriotism is a bit tiresome.

[kurt535]

don'tbesilly said:

kurt535 said:

don'tbesilly said:

kurt535 said:

don'tbesilly said:

toppstuff said:

don'tbesilly said:

Unbelievable!

Apropos of nothing, I do not regard an American as a greater friend than a Dutchman or an Estonian.

The US is not really a single nation culturally anyway. I have a lot more in common with some Estonians I know than , say, some Texans I also work with.

I can't see Estonia being much of an ally in any armed conflict can you?
Or perhaps your Estonian friends have some serious military hardware hidden in their garages

Tell me, do you see America as an enemy or an ally, if the former what's changed in 75 odd years?

IRRC 8/9 gave their all in Afghan. They have bigger steels than you will ever have. Good soldiers prepared to stand up and be counted.

I was talking about the ordinary Estonian, or does TS know all the armed personnel in the Estonian armed forces, which given his anecdotes he probably does.

Still you and TS do have some crackers as anecdotes!

'Big Pharma company in Surrey'

you are an armchair warrior on so many fronts. you've been nowhere. done nothing. seen nothing. empty vessels make most sound.

You know nothing about me, but come up with the above and call me an armchair warrior

It's amazing what I know about you, your fantastical life is spread across multiple sub forums on PH, and can at best be described as 'Walt' like.

You sad sack stalking me!!! christ i must have got right under your skin