Our newest ambassador in the US,,

Our newest ambassador in the US,,

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anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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TTwiggy said:
I thought it was less time than that and that he worked for some rather questionable outfits? Regardless, the two people I know who worked with him described him as just about adequate. That aside, I certainly don't wish death on the chap!
82-2004 I'm sure I read. I'm not going to defend his ability but the point stands that you dont leave the CME for Brussels to get rich. It's a sad indictment of our ineffective political classes that a barely adequate metal broker can take them all on and pull their pants down.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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fblm said:
TTwiggy said:
I thought it was less time than that and that he worked for some rather questionable outfits? Regardless, the two people I know who worked with him described him as just about adequate. That aside, I certainly don't wish death on the chap!
82-2004 I'm sure I read. I'm not going to defend his ability but the point stands that you dont leave the CME for Brussels to get rich. It's a sad indictment of our ineffective political classes that a barely adequate metal broker can take them all on and pull their pants down.
This is the bit that gets me, with his interaction with Brussels.

And he is the school annoyance that is in with the school bully for some reason that is unfathomable.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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jmorgan said:
This is the bit that gets me, with his interaction with Brussels.

And he is the school annoyance that is in with the school bully for some reason that is unfathomable.
Er?

Halmyre

11,244 posts

140 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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fblm said:
Whatever we think of Farage, to not exploit his relationship with Trump strikes me as being particularly petty and short sighted, even if that means making up some 'special envoy' job for him. I doubt Trump even knows the British ambassadors name.
Yes, let's appoint diplomatic representatives simply to accommodate POTUS's stupidity and/or ignorance.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Halmyre said:
fblm said:
Whatever we think of Farage, to not exploit his relationship with Trump strikes me as being particularly petty and short sighted, even if that means making up some 'special envoy' job for him. I doubt Trump even knows the British ambassadors name.
Yes, let's appoint diplomatic representatives simply to accommodate POTUS's stupidity and/or ignorance.
He's already representing you. He's met the President Elect in person at least 3 times in the last couple of months. I dare say most countries, companies, special interest groups and lobbyists would sell their children for that kind of access. I get that people don't like Trump or Farage but tough, Trump will be president and Farage is a friend of his, deal with it. You need all the 'friends' you can get right now.

Lucas CAV

3,025 posts

220 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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fblm said:
Halmyre said:
fblm said:
Whatever we think of Farage, to not exploit his relationship with Trump strikes me as being particularly petty and short sighted, even if that means making up some 'special envoy' job for him. I doubt Trump even knows the British ambassadors name.
Yes, let's appoint diplomatic representatives simply to accommodate POTUS's stupidity and/or ignorance.
He's already representing you. He's met the President Elect in person at least 3 times in the last couple of months. I dare say most countries, companies, special interest groups and lobbyists would sell their children for that kind of access. I get that people don't like Trump or Farage but tough, Trump will be president and Farage is a friend of his, deal with it. You need all the 'friends' you can get right now.
Balls.
As soon as Trump takes the reins full time, St. Nigel will be totally forgotten...

Countdown

40,023 posts

197 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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fblm said:
Halmyre said:
fblm said:
Whatever we think of Farage, to not exploit his relationship with Trump strikes me as being particularly petty and short sighted, even if that means making up some 'special envoy' job for him. I doubt Trump even knows the British ambassadors name.
Yes, let's appoint diplomatic representatives simply to accommodate POTUS's stupidity and/or ignorance.
He's already representing you. He's met the President Elect in person at least 3 times in the last couple of months. I dare say most countries, companies, special interest groups and lobbyists would sell their children for that kind of access. I get that people don't like Trump or Farage but tough, Trump will be president and Farage is a friend of his, deal with it. You need all the 'friends' you can get right now.
How exactly is he "representing" us? He's representing one person, namely himself.

If Trump rates Farage so much why doesn't he give him some role within the US Govt?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Lucas CAV said:
Balls.
As soon as Trump takes the reins full time, St. Nigel will be totally forgotten...
Good. Then he can be safely sidelined or dumped. Trump appears to have the temperament of a petulant child and he's suggested giving someone who is apparently a friend the ambassadors job. Realistically and thankfully that's not going to happen but ffs ruling out anything that would give you increased access to the President in a huff because you don't like either of them is just dumb. It's also not very diplomatic.

Halmyre

11,244 posts

140 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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fblm said:
Lucas CAV said:
Balls.
As soon as Trump takes the reins full time, St. Nigel will be totally forgotten...
Good. Then he can be safely sidelined or dumped. Trump appears to have the temperament of a petulant child and he's suggested giving someone who is apparently a friend the ambassadors job. Realistically and thankfully that's not going to happen but ffs ruling out anything that would give you increased access to the President in a huff because you don't like either of them is just dumb. It's also not very diplomatic.
Appeasement, in other words?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Countdown said:
How exactly is he "representing" us?
I've no idea and neither do you, if he worked for you, you might find out. He's one of your most high profile politicians who just won a referendum with more votes than any UK politician ever won for anything ever before. Like it or not when he meets people who will listen to him he represents you. Look, this guy seemingly has the ear of the next president, they are apparently friends, the next president is a child who holds petty grudges. Do what you like, I've had more than my say.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Halmyre said:
Appeasement, in other words?
In the words of Don Corleone, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer". You can choose who's who.

Countdown

40,023 posts

197 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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fblm said:
Countdown said:
How exactly is he "representing" us?
I've no idea and neither do you,
But you're the one who said "he's already representing us"? confused

fblm said:
if he worked for you, you might find out. He's one of your most high profile politicians who just won a referendum with more votes than any UK politician ever won for anything ever before. Like it or not when he meets people who will listen to him he represents you.
If those people think he represent "the UK" they're thick. He doesn't have a formal role for HMG. Despite standing for parliament numerous times he's been unsuccessful. His personality is toxic to the extent that he wasn't even part of the formal Leave campaign. He didn't win the votes.

fblm said:
Look, this guy seemingly has the ear of the next president, they are apparently friends, the next president is a child who holds petty grudges.
They're both pr1cks and well-suited to each other.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Countdown said:
If those people think he represent "the UK" they're thick. He doesn't have a formal role for HMG. Despite standing for parliament numerous times he's been unsuccessful. His personality is toxic to the extent that he wasn't even part of the formal Leave campaign. He didn't win the votes.
I agree and if Trump agrees with this analysis you're golden. Does Corbyn represent you when he speaks to foreign politicians?

Countdown

40,023 posts

197 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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fblm said:
I agree and if Trump agrees with this analysis you're golden. Does Corbyn represent you when he speaks to foreign politicians?
I had assumed that most people (domestic, foreign, interplanetary) realised that Corbyn was a bit of a joke... are you suggesting that some people take him seriously?

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

99 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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Countdown said:
They're both pr1cks and well-suited to each other.
unfortunately for you Countdown they are in the ascension, whilst the liberal left are well and truely busted...

Laurel Green

30,788 posts

233 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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A film I'd willingly pay to see, though can hazard a guess at the outcome.

SKP555

1,114 posts

127 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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powerstroke said:
That's great. I hope it's proper cheesy rubbish with clear good guys and bad guys.

Bruce Willis as a hard drinking Nige.

John Cleese as Boris Johnson

Weird Al Yankovich as Michael Gove

Dolph Lungren as Martin Schultz

If only Alan Rickman were still around to play a scheming David Cameron.

Any ideas for the ghost of Margaret Thatcher appearing before a montage which turns around the lagging opinion polls in the final week?