FGM Parties

Author
Discussion

dudleybloke

19,821 posts

186 months

Saturday 27th July 2019
quotequote all
Looks like Birmingham is top of the league.


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/health/birmi...

Mrr T

12,229 posts

265 months

Saturday 27th July 2019
quotequote all
dudleybloke said:
Looks like Birmingham is top of the league.


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/health/birmi...
The headlines and the story are misleading. I am not saying it does not happen in the UK but you need to look at the Government NHS reporting requirements on FGM.

Doctors are now required to report any potential evidence of FGM on a patient no matter when it occurred. So if a Doctor examines a woman say in her 80's and there is some evidence but the injuries, if they are FGM, are from youth before she entered the UK, it still gets reported.

Not unnaturally there has been a sharp rise in reported cases.

Dromedary66

1,924 posts

138 months

Saturday 27th July 2019
quotequote all
Mrr T said:
dudleybloke said:
Looks like Birmingham is top of the league.


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/health/birmi...
The headlines and the story are misleading. I am not saying it does not happen in the UK but you need to look at the Government NHS reporting requirements on FGM.

Doctors are now required to report any potential evidence of FGM on a patient no matter when it occurred. So if a Doctor examines a woman say in her 80's and there is some evidence but the injuries, if they are FGM, are from youth before she entered the UK, it still gets reported.

Not unnaturally there has been a sharp rise in reported cases.
75 girls under 9 discovered in Birmingham. These are Birmingham families taking their children to be mutilated. Sickening.

Mrr T

12,229 posts

265 months

Saturday 27th July 2019
quotequote all
Dromedary66 said:
Mrr T said:
dudleybloke said:
Looks like Birmingham is top of the league.


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/health/birmi...
The headlines and the story are misleading. I am not saying it does not happen in the UK but you need to look at the Government NHS reporting requirements on FGM.

Doctors are now required to report any potential evidence of FGM on a patient no matter when it occurred. So if a Doctor examines a woman say in her 80's and there is some evidence but the injuries, if they are FGM, are from youth before she entered the UK, it still gets reported.

Not unnaturally there has been a sharp rise in reported cases.
75 girls under 9 discovered in Birmingham. These are Birmingham families taking their children to be mutilated. Sickening.
The article does not say that. The age is when the mutilation is alleged to have occurred. The victims current age is not known. So this could have occurred any where in the world.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,356 posts

150 months

Saturday 27th July 2019
quotequote all
Mrr T said:
Dromedary66 said:
Mrr T said:
dudleybloke said:
Looks like Birmingham is top of the league.


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/health/birmi...
The headlines and the story are misleading. I am not saying it does not happen in the UK but you need to look at the Government NHS reporting requirements on FGM.

Doctors are now required to report any potential evidence of FGM on a patient no matter when it occurred. So if a Doctor examines a woman say in her 80's and there is some evidence but the injuries, if they are FGM, are from youth before she entered the UK, it still gets reported.

Not unnaturally there has been a sharp rise in reported cases.
75 girls under 9 discovered in Birmingham. These are Birmingham families taking their children to be mutilated. Sickening.
The article does not say that. The age is when the mutilation is alleged to have occurred. The victims current age is not known. So this could have occurred any where in the world.
As can be seen by my exchange on this thread with Dromedary66 back on 10/9/18, he and the truth aren't very well acquainted.

Dromedary66

1,924 posts

138 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
quotequote all
I'm not saying they are taking their girls to their Imam in Sparkhill to have it done, that's just for when they want their male babies to have their genital mutilation ceremony.

I fully appreciate they are most likely taking their girls abroad to be circumcised.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,356 posts

150 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
quotequote all
Wrong way round.

The fact that you describe circumcision of males as mutilation and mutilation of females as circumcision, really highlights your quite appalling misogyny. Shameful.

Dromedary66

1,924 posts

138 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
quotequote all
What's misogynistic is to be ambivalent about MGM, as you are, but to consider FGM as worse, considering type1a FGM is physiologically as identical as it is possible to get to MGM.

And indeed type IV as favoured in Indonesia is actually less harmful than MGM.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,356 posts

150 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
quotequote all
MGM??


anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
quotequote all
TwigtheWonderkid said:
MGM??

Because mutilation of babies is always funny

TwigtheWonderkid

43,356 posts

150 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
quotequote all
Because misogyny matters.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
quotequote all
Where did the OP go?

Was used to seeing at least three of his anti-Islam topics on the front page, usually bumped by him.

Cyder

7,053 posts

220 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
quotequote all
Good to see Twig is still here defending lopping bits of babies willies off. nuts

TwigtheWonderkid

43,356 posts

150 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
quotequote all
Cyder said:
Good to see Twig is still here defending lopping bits of babies willies off. nuts
I'll issue you the same challenge I issued to nanook and Dromedary when they said similar, find a single post where I defend, support, or agree with circumcision. Nanook had the good grace to apologise, Dromedary was too embarrassed to admit he'd got it wrong. Let's see what camp you fall into.

Cyder

7,053 posts

220 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
quotequote all
Fair point Twig you’re right, you haven’t.

However, I disagree with the points made that because FGM is worse and far more barbaric, people shouldn’t also be able to highlight that MGM/male circumcision/Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer is also an outdated and downright wrong thing to be practiced on young children without consent.

If the world only focused on one serious issue at a time it would be a lot more fked up than it is now.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,356 posts

150 months

Monday 29th July 2019
quotequote all
Cyder said:
Fair point Twig you’re right, you haven’t.

However, I disagree with the points made that because FGM is worse and far more barbaric, people shouldn’t also be able to highlight that MGM/male circumcision/Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer is also an outdated and downright wrong thing to be practiced on young children without consent.

If the world only focused on one serious issue at a time it would be a lot more fked up than it is now.
Ok, thanks for admitting I am not a defender or supporter of circumcision.

As for the rest, we just have a different opinion. On a thread about FGM, I just don't think it should be derailed by the less serious issue of circumcision. It smacks of misogyny imho, almost as if people can't stand it that the focus is purely on females and how we stop suffering they are going thru.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 29th July 2019
quotequote all
La Liga said:
Where did the OP go?

Was used to seeing at least three of his anti-Islam topics on the front page, usually bumped by him.
Yep we should all support FGM so we are not seen as anti-muslim right? Since when was raising such issues for debate deemed racist?

I have no issue with the OP raising such issues as they have no place in this country... well in my opinion anyway.

It reminds me of when I raised an experience of mine where a work colleague married his 14 year old cousin in Pakistan and brought her back to this country. I don't agree with paedophilia either but soon had Countdown on this forum flaming me for mentioning it.

We should be able to raise objections to these practices which to me are simply not acceptable.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 29th July 2019
quotequote all
MikeStroud said:
La Liga said:
Where did the OP go?

Was used to seeing at least three of his anti-Islam topics on the front page, usually bumped by him.
Yep we should all support FGM so we are not seen as anti-muslim right?
Nice strawman.

MikeStroud said:
Since when was raising such issues for debate deemed racist?
Where has anyone said it was?

My comment was on his disproportionate number of topics and apparent agenda (as my post suggests).



TwigtheWonderkid

43,356 posts

150 months

Monday 29th July 2019
quotequote all
MikeStroud said:
It reminds me of when I raised an experience of mine where a work colleague married his 14 year old cousin in Pakistan and brought her back to this country. I don't agree with paedophilia either but soon had Countdown on this forum flaming me for mentioning it.

.
Having sex with a 14 y/o isn't paedophilia. Paedophilia is about pre pubescent children.

rscott

14,758 posts

191 months

Monday 29th July 2019
quotequote all
TwigtheWonderkid said:
MikeStroud said:
It reminds me of when I raised an experience of mine where a work colleague married his 14 year old cousin in Pakistan and brought her back to this country. I don't agree with paedophilia either but soon had Countdown on this forum flaming me for mentioning it.

.
Having sex with a 14 y/o isn't paedophilia. Paedophilia is about pre pubescent children.
14 is the age of consent in some parts of Europe - Germany for example.