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rscott said:
del mar said:
It's equally easy to find posts from Islamic scholars which state the opposite. It is harder to find a Christian who tries to argue a case for it.
KTF said:
del mar said:
Oh come on. Do you really believe that the below are a good thing?"Mentioning some of these benefits, Dr. Haamid al-Ghawaabi says:
The secretions of the labia minora accumulate in uncircumcised women and turn rancid, so they develop an unpleasant odour which may lead to infections of the vagina or urethra. I have seen many cases of sickness caused by the lack of circumcision.
Circumcision reduces excessive sensitivity of the clitoris which may cause it to increase in size to 3 centimeters when aroused, which is very annoying to the husband, especially at the time of intercourse.
Another benefit of circumcision is that it prevents stimulation of the clitoris which makes it grow large in such a manner that it causes pain.
Circumcision prevents spasms of the clitoris which are a kind of inflammation.
Circumcision reduces excessive sexual desire."
Game of Thrones;
John Snow goes down on the wilding lady with ginger hair - I dread to think when she last washed !
Now that it is classed as 'illegal' in the UK, could children who have suffered this as a UK citizen later grow up and take their own parents to court over allowing the practice? Perhaps suing for damages.
That obviously entails that they grow up and get wise to what has happened to them and are not allowed to be brain-washed by preachers / family members which our own limp-wristed government won't dare contradict.
That obviously entails that they grow up and get wise to what has happened to them and are not allowed to be brain-washed by preachers / family members which our own limp-wristed government won't dare contradict.
del mar said:
rscott said:
del mar said:
It's equally easy to find posts from Islamic scholars which state the opposite. It is harder to find a Christian who tries to argue a case for it.
del mar said:
Nobody wants a rancid woman !!!
Game of Thrones;
John Snow goes down on the wilding lady with ginger hair - I dread to think when she last washed !
Typical racist PH opinion, just because she's from North of the wall there's no need for derogatory language and casting doubt on her personal hygiene. Game of Thrones;
John Snow goes down on the wilding lady with ginger hair - I dread to think when she last washed !
KTF said:
del mar said:
Oh come on. Do you really believe that the below are a good thing?"Mentioning some of these benefits, Dr. Haamid al-Ghawaabi says:
The secretions of the labia minora accumulate in uncircumcised women and turn rancid, so they develop an unpleasant odour which may lead to infections of the vagina or urethra. I have seen many cases of sickness caused by the lack of circumcision.
Circumcision reduces excessive sensitivity of the clitoris which may cause it to increase in size to 3 centimeters when aroused, which is very annoying to the husband, especially at the time of intercourse.
Another benefit of circumcision is that it prevents stimulation of the clitoris which makes it grow large in such a manner that it causes pain.
Circumcision prevents spasms of the clitoris which are a kind of inflammation.
Circumcision reduces excessive sexual desire."
"Allaah knows best."
So thats all right then.....
J4CKO said:
KTF said:
del mar said:
Oh come on. Do you really believe that the below are a good thing?"Mentioning some of these benefits, Dr. Haamid al-Ghawaabi says:
The secretions of the labia minora accumulate in uncircumcised women and turn rancid, so they develop an unpleasant odour which may lead to infections of the vagina or urethra. I have seen many cases of sickness caused by the lack of circumcision.
Circumcision reduces excessive sensitivity of the clitoris which may cause it to increase in size to 3 centimeters when aroused, which is very annoying to the husband, especially at the time of intercourse.
Another benefit of circumcision is that it prevents stimulation of the clitoris which makes it grow large in such a manner that it causes pain.
Circumcision prevents spasms of the clitoris which are a kind of inflammation.
Circumcision reduces excessive sexual desire."
"Allaah knows best."
So thats all right then.....
Don said:
FGM and MGM are utterly abhorrent and totally unnecessary. These practices must be stamped out, IMO.
No such thing as MGM. Regardless of it being right or wrong, it isn't mutilation. If it was, there wouldn't be literally tens of millions of men not remotely bothered that they'd been "mutilated". TwigtheWonderkid said:
Don said:
FGM and MGM are utterly abhorrent and totally unnecessary. These practices must be stamped out, IMO.
No such thing as MGM. Regardless of it being right or wrong, it isn't mutilation. If it was, there wouldn't be literally tens of millions of men not remotely bothered that they'd been "mutilated". FredClogs said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Don said:
FGM and MGM are utterly abhorrent and totally unnecessary. These practices must be stamped out, IMO.
No such thing as MGM. Regardless of it being right or wrong, it isn't mutilation. If it was, there wouldn't be literally tens of millions of men not remotely bothered that they'd been "mutilated". Its like blokes having their glans cut off, but that wouldn't ever happen as procreation may be a little difficult and you need to make lots of lovely babies
TwigtheWonderkid said:
No such thing as MGM. Regardless of it being right or wrong, it isn't mutilation. If it was, there wouldn't be literally tens of millions of men not remotely bothered that they'd been "mutilated".
Hang on! There have been many millions of women who are not bothered that they've been "mutilated". So not-bothered are they, that they happily take their daughters through the same "mutilation".We do the subject of male circumcision every year or so on PH. And each time, some ordinarily right-on PHers discard their principles and say: "oh, that's different. It's OK for male children to be abused, even though they are unable to consent and it's irreversible."
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Don said:
FGM and MGM are utterly abhorrent and totally unnecessary. These practices must be stamped out, IMO.
No such thing as MGM. Regardless of it being right or wrong, it isn't mutilation. If it was, there wouldn't be literally tens of millions of men not remotely bothered that they'd been "mutilated". Female Genital Mutilation is worse. For sure. Some of the things I've read that they do to the poor girls is beyond words.
But chopping off bits of a new-born boys penis, out of culture or religion, is also barbaric.
Medical need aside; is there many 'uncut' man who'd choose to lose their foreskin?
It's also a distraction to be arguing if this is confined to one religion or another. They've all got their weird practices, so I'd just rather we got rid of the whole bloody lot. Too much to hope the world grows the f
k up and stops believing in lunacy. Some very interesting stuff on this thread.
It's evident many people think male circumcision is perfectly acceptable. To be honest until FGM was put on the agenda I wouldn't have thought twice about it.
All goes to illustrate that these matters are more complex then they first appear.
I would definitely agree that FGM seems to have some different levels to it.
It's evident many people think male circumcision is perfectly acceptable. To be honest until FGM was put on the agenda I wouldn't have thought twice about it.
All goes to illustrate that these matters are more complex then they first appear.
I would definitely agree that FGM seems to have some different levels to it.
The author of this book was interviewed on the radio a while back. Absolutely awful business
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cut-Womans-Fight-Against-...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cut-Womans-Fight-Against-...
anonyrat39 said:
Yipper said:
Male trimming = lowers HIV rate and makes yer pecker look bigger.
IIRC one study showed that in Sub-Saharan Africa the HIV rate is lowered slightly.The reason they couldn't reproduce the results somewhere like the UK is that we have access to basic hygiene and therefore don't benefit from cutting our bits off.
Boosted LS1 said:
Nope, it's because hiv can enter the body through the mucous membrane under the foreskin. Circumcision removes that membrane and gives you dick protection.
But of course not having unprotected sex with people at risk of HIV is probably a better bet than chopping off bits of your willy. On the subject of MGM, there's always some regurgitator who brings up the African beliefs that it reduces the chances of contracting HIV. There's a number of scientific studies that dispute this http://preventdisease.com/news/14/072114_Benefits-..., along with more general stats that show how America (one of the most prolific baby dick cutting countries in the developed world) has a significantly higher HIV rate compared with countries that don't routinely mutilate eight day old babies.
And even if it was the case that it did reduce the chances of getting infected, surely that's not a reason anyone here would choose to irrevocably damage their son's genitals. Far more preferable to educate them on safe sex practices.
In addition it became practice in Africa long before HIV was even known about, all this nonsense is just retrospective justification in order to carry on their ignorant ritualistic nonsense.
Here's a video of an African MGM party - utter savages, although at least they wait until the man is consenting, unlike Muslims and Jews. He takes it like an absolute boss.
https://webmshare.com/OVNvb
And even if it was the case that it did reduce the chances of getting infected, surely that's not a reason anyone here would choose to irrevocably damage their son's genitals. Far more preferable to educate them on safe sex practices.
In addition it became practice in Africa long before HIV was even known about, all this nonsense is just retrospective justification in order to carry on their ignorant ritualistic nonsense.
Here's a video of an African MGM party - utter savages, although at least they wait until the man is consenting, unlike Muslims and Jews. He takes it like an absolute boss.
https://webmshare.com/OVNvb
Dromedary66 said:
On the subject of MGM, there's always some regurgitator who brings up the African beliefs that it reduces the chances of contracting HIV. There's a number of scientific studies that dispute this http://preventdisease.com/news/14/072114_Benefits-..., along with more general stats that show how America (one of the most prolific baby dick cutting countries in the developed world) has a significantly higher HIV rate compared with countries that don't routinely mutilate eight day old babies.
And even if it was the case that it did reduce the chances of getting infected, surely that's not a reason anyone here would choose to irrevocably damage their son's genitals. Far more preferable to educate them on safe sex practices.
In addition it became practice in Africa long before HIV was even known about, all this nonsense is just retrospective justification in order to carry on their ignorant ritualistic nonsense.
Here's a video of an African MGM party - utter savages, although at least they wait until the man is consenting, unlike Muslims and Jews. He takes it like an absolute boss.
https://webmshare.com/OVNvb
You do know no one is clicking that link don't you?And even if it was the case that it did reduce the chances of getting infected, surely that's not a reason anyone here would choose to irrevocably damage their son's genitals. Far more preferable to educate them on safe sex practices.
In addition it became practice in Africa long before HIV was even known about, all this nonsense is just retrospective justification in order to carry on their ignorant ritualistic nonsense.
Here's a video of an African MGM party - utter savages, although at least they wait until the man is consenting, unlike Muslims and Jews. He takes it like an absolute boss.
https://webmshare.com/OVNvb
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