The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 2)

The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 2)

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Murph7355

37,804 posts

257 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Nothingtoseehere said:
Whilst he did use the word "impossible", to be fair he did say "just about" in relation to production going abroad. Presumably e-Mini and Qashqai/X-trail fall outside of that smile

Still, e-Minis won't even register in terms of production numbers... Unless.....

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

244 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Eddie Strohacker said:
Deptford Draylons said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
I marvel at someone who calls someone else a moron at 1am & then subsequently demands that you don't reply. The mentality of that is really quite speshal.
Sorry, I'll try and get it in before your 9pm bedtime next time.
I think you think that hurts. laugh

I just wonder where the laser like personal focus on people with different views comes from, why you hate yourself so much that you project it constantly. Sad!
It came from the bizarre obsession from you both that 1am is some kinda relevant factor , when saying the obsession with chicken in terms of a trade deal with the US seems moronic.

Nothingtoseehere

7,379 posts

155 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Murph7355 said:
Whilst he did use the word "impossible", to be fair he did say "just about" in relation to production going abroad. Presumably e-Mini and Qashqai/X-trail fall outside of that smile

Still, e-Minis won't even register in terms of production numbers... Unless.....
I can see e- minis catching on big time.
If the price isn't ridiculous.

Murph7355

37,804 posts

257 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Nothingtoseehere said:
I can see e- minis catching on big time.
If the price isn't ridiculous.
Hence the "unless...".

With diesel the latest pariah and petrol still evil, and with moves like Volvo's on hybrids/electrics it will sell in huge numbers IMO.

Mind you, not only will tariffs lead to ridiculous prices and impossibilities in the supply chain, they will also make drivers infertile and increase the death rates to boot. All because of racist, aged, ugly Brexit voters. So maybe not.

And all that is only if we survive the canned chickens.

Nothingtoseehere

7,379 posts

155 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Murph7355 said:
Hence the "unless...".

With diesel the latest pariah and petrol still evil, and with moves like Volvo's on hybrids/electrics it will sell in huge numbers IMO.

Mind you, not only will tariffs lead to ridiculous prices and impossibilities in the supply chain, they will also make drivers infertile and increase the death rates to boot. All because of racist, aged, ugly Brexit voters. So maybe not.

And all that is only if we survive the canned chickens.
But can I have tinned peaches tariff free?
It all rides on this for me.

Murph7355

37,804 posts

257 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Nothingtoseehere said:
But can I have tinned peaches tariff free?
It all rides on this for me.
OK.

But I'm not budging on celery.

Nothingtoseehere

7,379 posts

155 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Murph7355 said:
OK.

But I'm not budging on celery.
Deal.
I'm back on side.

FiF

44,230 posts

252 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Nothingtoseehere said:
Murph7355 said:
OK.

But I'm not budging on celery.
Deal.
I'm back on side.
Heathens.

Murph7355

37,804 posts

257 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Nothingtoseehere said:
Murph7355 said:
OK.

But I'm not budging on celery.
Deal.
I'm back on side.
Hey, ///ajd... See how easy it is to do a trade deal? smile

FiF said:
Heathens.
As long as you ignore the Walloons biggrin

Crackie

6,386 posts

243 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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REALIST123 said:
I think we really ought to bear in mind that if the EU had been what it was promised to be when it was mooted, if it hadn't left so many millions of its population in such dire straits, if it hadn't elevated its purpose from a means to an end to the end itself, it's highly likely, if not certain, that we wouldn't be leaving.

But we are, most probably.

The events of recent months have left me with little confidence that the self interested politicians both here and in the EU are capable of reaching an agreement that won't be hugely damaging to all 28 countries, even though it would seem to be eminently possible.

Then again, I'm not sure the EU is too concerned about its members' well being, as long as someone can keep funding Brussels.
Great post...........an oasis of sanity.


///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Eddie Strohacker said:
powerstroke said:
Because they are the I'm alright jack types , they don't care about our history , future or people less fortunate than themselves
just their narrow smug view ,they don't see posibilty's just there dull average livestyle at risk .. . they would be like the people who when our forbears explored the world would have stayed at home maybe not even left the village they were born in..
fk me, I may never have left the village but I went to school.

Possibilities.
Their
Lifestyle
Forebears

Chlorine will come in handy for my eyes, next time you post something that illiterate.
LOL. Powerstroke doesn't seem the type to leave his village and explore the world - imagine all the foreigners he'd meet - how would he cope, it would surely be terrifying!

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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REALIST123 said:
The events of recent months have left me with little confidence that the self interested politicians both here and in the EU are capable of reaching an agreement that won't be hugely damaging to all 28 countries, even though it would seem to be eminently possible.
Only the last few months?

It was obvious ages OK, many did try and tell you before the vote.

Would you change your vote knowing what you know now? I think I know the answer. smile

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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The e-mini is great news.

Battery and drivetrain imported from Germany mind - going into a car already made in the UK.

But still great news.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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///ajd said:
The e-mini is great news.

Battery and drivetrain imported from Germany mind - going into a car already made in the UK.

But still great news.
But you told us cross border parts transfer in the automotive sector would end because of Brexit.

So how does that work?

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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///ajd said:
I think I know the answer. smile
I've no doubt you think you do. Probably wrong though, usually are.

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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jsf said:
But you told us cross border parts transfer in the automotive sector would end because of Brexit.

So how does that work?
Some are arguing the business case still stacks up due to the fact it is going into an already produced car, hence there is no case to relocate even if brexit results in tariffs.

The almost universal declaration by the UK Govt of a transition period - i.e. from 2019 to say 2022 post brexit may also have had a bearing on the economics of this model run - i.e its key manufacturing years are very likely to be tariff free and in the CU.

It is good news, but I don't think it means "bring on WTO, business is not that bothered". I suspect you aren't reading it that way either, or do you?

You can argue that the impact of losing tariff/barrier free trade may not overcome the benefits of UK manufacturing efficiency & helpful unions etc., but it is a bit dangerous to assume they are not factors for business. Our car industry has been ruined in the past, lets try not do it again through complacency.

Nothingtoseehere

7,379 posts

155 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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jsf said:
But you told us cross border parts transfer in the automotive sector would end because of Brexit.

So how does that work?
The long way round......smile

B'stard Child

28,467 posts

247 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Murph7355 said:
Nothingtoseehere said:
But can I have tinned peaches tariff free?
It all rides on this for me.
OK.

But I'm not budging on celery.
Neither am I (reasons explained before)

Tinned peaches I like them.............. *




Mainly because my peach tree should really be called just a tree......... every fking year if I see one fruit it's eaten by the birds before it's ripe - whatever happened to global waming I feel cheated!!!

Tuna

19,930 posts

285 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Murph7355 said:
Nothingtoseehere said:
But can I have tinned peaches tariff free?
It all rides on this for me.
OK.

But I'm not budging on celery.
I don't think I want any of that celery that you've 'not budged on'.

Murph7355

37,804 posts

257 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Tuna said:
I don't think I want any of that celery that you've 'not budged on'.
tbh that would improve the taste.
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