The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 2)
Discussion
jjlynn27 said:
You type that and you start post to someone else with 'pathetic'? You should sign all your posts with that. So instead of b
hing how 40 years of your life were st (how sad is that?), you should polish your zimmer frame, and thank junior for explaining to you why Miller's intervention was preservation of democracy and not attempt to circumvent it.
Damn, imagine thinking that 40 years of your life you've spent 'enduring st'.
I think you need a lesson in how not to take things literally.hing how 40 years of your life were st (how sad is that?), you should polish your zimmer frame, and thank junior for explaining to you why Miller's intervention was preservation of democracy and not attempt to circumvent it. Damn, imagine thinking that 40 years of your life you've spent 'enduring s
t'. Eddie Strohacker said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Super happy? not really. All the 2016 referendum did was right a 40 year old wrong, Enduring 40 years of sh*t, how can that be a source of happiness? Still I am sure that even you realize that no matter how many times we all post here, it is not going to make the slightest jot of difference in the real world, so we just come her for a bit of light entertainment, and a bit of willy waving at the `other side' Fun isn't it?
In that case then, you'd better crack on with your back to the future, time travelling court case against Heath's (deceased) government. Bit I did notice your second sentence. That repeating yourself tic is back again. I call it Brexourettes.jjlynn27 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Pathetic, unless you can explain how you can guarantee that every citizen of the UK read and fully understand what that tiny article in one newspaper at the time actually meant for the UK, If you cannot do this, then its inclusion here is pointless b*llox.
I think I like you better when you're doing the parrot thing about it all being pointless arguing about it 
Pan Pan Pan said:
I was around at the time , and I voted in the 1975 referendum, but I never saw or heard any indication of what the EEC would turn `itself' into. I doubt that even Heath fully understood what it would mean for the people of the UK).
I await your confirmation that every person in the UK knew and understood that staying in the EEC would mean the UK would be slid into something completely different (the EU) but I wont be holding my breath.
Well, had you bothered to inform yourself at the time etc. etc. I'm getting buyers remorse vibes. Still, at least you're super happy now it's all gone your way, eh PPP?I await your confirmation that every person in the UK knew and understood that staying in the EEC would mean the UK would be slid into something completely different (the EU) but I wont be holding my breath.
hing how 40 years of your life were st (how sad is that?), you should polish your zimmer frame, and thank junior for explaining to you why Miller's intervention was preservation of democracy and not attempt to circumvent it. Damn, imagine thinking that 40 years of your life you've spent 'enduring s
t'. It is great having a `live' one like you to play with every now and then, but can I ask, Do you really believe that anyone really gives a sh*t what people from the `other' side say about Brexit. I only come here for a bit of fun, no more no less, because I realize that that is all it is, but the question is do you?
Eddie Strohacker said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Your willy seems to have been waved so many pointless times, has it dropped off yet?
And we're back to personal digs. Sorry you were shown to be wrong about everything today. Better luck next time!In my view every post of yours is completely wrong, so we will have to agree to disagree. I have got about half an hour left if you want to get a bit more willy waving in (on the assumption it has not dropped off yet, that is
)Pan Pan Pan said:
I did not say that `my' life was sh*t, only that 40 odd years of the UK being in the EU was sh*t. You really must learn to read old boy,
It wasn't st at all. It was actually rather good. Your perception, based on either your experience or what DailyMail told you to think is 'st'. Please get there faster. Then again, given that you are demonstrably too thick to understand even the simple concept of what Miller's case was about, I don't expect you to understand much else.
Pan Pan Pan said:
TTwiggy said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
What are you doing to make the UK a success post Brexit?
Nothing. I'm in no position to influence it one way or the other. Got any other pointless questions?Eddie Strohacker said:
Didn't need one. Alfie's been shown this many times & his best gold is it was printed in a paper no one read. The old shooting the piano player defence.
Interesting that it doesn't refer to building a federal superstate. But does refer to breaking down barriers with the rest of the world, while the main reason for leaving is the protectionist barriers the EU has erected.jjlynn27 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
I did not say that `my' life was sh*t, only that 40 odd years of the UK being in the EU was sh*t. You really must learn to read old boy,
It wasn't st at all. It was actually rather good. Your perception, based on either your experience or what DailyMail told you to think is 'st'. Please get there faster. Then again, given that you are demonstrably too thick to understand even the simple concept of what Miller's case was about, I don't expect you to understand much else.
TTwiggy said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
TTwiggy said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
What are you doing to make the UK a success post Brexit?
Nothing. I'm in no position to influence it one way or the other. Got any other pointless questions?Pan Pan Pan said:
Super happy? not really. All the 2016 referendum did was right a 40 year old wrong, Enduring 40 years of sh*t, how can that be a source of happiness? Still I am sure that even you realize that no matter how many times we all post here, it is not going to make the slightest jot of difference in the real world, so we just come her for a bit of light entertainment, and a bit of willy waving at the `other side' Fun isn't it?
Nothing stands still though, countries, economies, people, even politics. It all evolves in some way.Even if the UK hadn't joined the EU it would still be drastically different to what it was in the 1970's.
PurpleMoonlight said:
Nothing stands still though, countries, economies, people, even politics. It all evolves in some way.
Even if the UK hadn't joined the EU it would still be drastically different to what it was in the 1970's.
The whole argument is a dead end. It is by any reasonable critical thinking unlikely to have stood still. Moreover the most significant change in treaty came under Major & I don't recall him offering a referendum. Say what you like about Grey John, he wasn't stupid enough to be taken in by that idea. And besides, the sheer disingenuous behaviour of the old boys like Alfie & PPP who LOVE to insist they were around at the time but were led down the garden path by duplicitous politicians were clearly just not paying attention. So when you point this out, the old discrediting machine gets ten pence put in the slot.Even if the UK hadn't joined the EU it would still be drastically different to what it was in the 1970's.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/03/29/no-b...
Eddie Strohacker said:
The whole argument is a dead end. It is by any reasonable critical thinking unlikely to have stood still. Moreover the most significant change in treaty came under Major & I don't recall him offering a referendum. Say what you like about Grey John, he wasn't stupid enough to be taken in by that idea. And besides, the sheer disingenuous behaviour of the old boys like Alfie & PPP who LOVE to insist they were around at the time but were led down the garden path by duplicitous politicians were clearly just not paying attention. So when you point this out, the old discrediting machine gets ten pence put in the slot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/03/29/no-b...
There you go making things up again....show me where I said "I was around at the time" I just so happen to have looked into what was said at the time........I have asked your mucka JJ without answer so I will ask you - how old does a person have to be to be classed as an "old boy"?http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/03/29/no-b...
eta from your link:
Was Britain tricked into EU membership?
Yes - we've never had a chance to decide 75
No - we knew what we were getting into 25
Eddie Strohacker said:
. . . . . . the sheer disingenuous behaviour of the old boys like Alfie & PPP who LOVE to insist they were around at the time but were led down the garden path by duplicitous politicians were clearly just not paying attention. So when you point this out, the old discrediting machine gets ten pence put in the slot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/03/29/no-b...
Yes, the information was available back then . . . . . sort of.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/03/29/no-b...
Firstly, all the articles now dredged up were not clear about closer political integration. They referred to 'social' issues but these could be agreed between the fewer EU states back then without the need for the level of integration that is now seen.
Secondly, those articles were not widely circulated for all to see. I was not of an age to vote back then but all those I talk to now who were are clear, almost without exception, that the impression they were given by the government at the time was that it was a common market and almost exclusively about trade. Some may have realised but, in my experience, they were in the minority. You can shout at them all day long that they should have known but the simple fact is they didn't.
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