Can PH solve the missing Honington airman?
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I guess you've now all seen that the local police are confident the body is now going to be in the landfill
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39209...
Otherwise he's Lord Lucan
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39209...
Otherwise he's Lord Lucan
condor said:
At that time the bin lorry had just been emptied, so no problem having a quick search.
11kg! that's nothing in weight compared to a normal load - equivalent to a few bags of sugar! or a couple of new born babies!
Initially we were told it was stuff for recycling - lightweight cardboard etc11kg! that's nothing in weight compared to a normal load - equivalent to a few bags of sugar! or a couple of new born babies!
However it's an eye opener rereading the first few posts of this thread - guess who was trying to find out what reasons they might have for not checking the bin
Before jumping to conclusions there's still something else not quite right
Wasnt the phone traced to the recycling site north of BSE?
The landfill site theyre checking is over near Cambridge
Would the phone have been treated as a recyclable while the body was only suitable for landfill?
Wasnt the phone traced to the recycling site north of BSE?
The landfill site theyre checking is over near Cambridge
Would the phone have been treated as a recyclable while the body was only suitable for landfill?
Greendubber said:
How many other trucks emptied there?
How big is the area?
What quantity of waste is dropped in a day? If its anything like ours its a LOT.
Its just not as easy as just chucking a couple of bobbies on the heap and getting them to have a cursory poke about. You need to set the depth of search, parameters, somewhere to securely store all searched rubbish, appropriately trained search officers etc.
You have to give the OIC total assurance that once its searched there is no possibility of body being there because if you just chuck a couple of bobbies on it, give it a quick once over and leave and and body is later found we all know how bad that looks.
You either search it properly or you dont search it at all.
Youre forgetting that policing these days is all computer and desk based - they wont have more than a couple available to do poking around. How big is the area?
What quantity of waste is dropped in a day? If its anything like ours its a LOT.
Its just not as easy as just chucking a couple of bobbies on the heap and getting them to have a cursory poke about. You need to set the depth of search, parameters, somewhere to securely store all searched rubbish, appropriately trained search officers etc.
You have to give the OIC total assurance that once its searched there is no possibility of body being there because if you just chuck a couple of bobbies on it, give it a quick once over and leave and and body is later found we all know how bad that looks.
You either search it properly or you dont search it at all.
As we've seen it'll be intelligence led.
Edited by saaby93 on Wednesday 8th March 21:49
Loyly said:
It's easy to pontificate with a basic grasp of the facts but I would be inclined to believe that the real investigators know much more about the case than we do.
Or it's been a total desk job mess up relying on one piece of false evidence 
Once youve discounted all the probable evidence, it's time to look at the other evidence no matter how improbable
Anyway he might not be there after all
j80jpw said:
How do they now know the bin weight was 100kg not 11?
I had assumed the Barton Mills site must have been a recycling centre then after sorting the landfill gets taken to Milton but it would appear Barton Mills is Landfill too so if the phone was tracked to BM what is the reason Milton is being searched? There seems to have been several bits of basic info withheld since the very beginning of this case which I find odd.
They haven't brought in a russian guy with a poison tipped umbrella yetI had assumed the Barton Mills site must have been a recycling centre then after sorting the landfill gets taken to Milton but it would appear Barton Mills is Landfill too so if the phone was tracked to BM what is the reason Milton is being searched? There seems to have been several bits of basic info withheld since the very beginning of this case which I find odd.
FunkyNige said:
j80jpw said:
How do they now know the bin weight was 100kg not 11?
I'm *guessing* they phoned the company that ran the bin lorries straight away and asked about the possibility of the airman being in it, someone said it was only 11kg so the police ruled that out. At a later date the police decided to double check things, phoned up again, someone else looked up the weight on the records and said it was over 100kg, first guy got arrested for perverting the course of justice.As I say that's a complete guess but sounds reasonable in my head...
However the amount of information being released is palpable possibly to avoid fingers being pointed.
As Columbo says, if you dont know the answer to something, keep asking until you do.
ETA or we're talking about two different bin trucks
One takes recyclables and has the phone, the other has non recyclable and goes to the second tip
One day the real story will appear
Edited by saaby93 on Thursday 9th March 09:37
The problem may have been that somone said that he wasnt seen on CCTV coming out of the horshoe
which was taken to mean he didnt come out
Rather than he wasnt seen on CCTV coming out
Didnt they later say that some of the CCTV scans back and forth and is time lapse?
Really I havent a clue whether the CCTV covers it or not
which was taken to mean he didnt come out
Rather than he wasnt seen on CCTV coming out
Didnt they later say that some of the CCTV scans back and forth and is time lapse?
Really I havent a clue whether the CCTV covers it or not
AWG said:
Just read this from the beginning and some interesting comments raised.
Has the RAF contributed much time and effort to the safe return of one of their own or made any statements?
Thats been one of the other great mysteries. Youd have thought they'd have been scouring the planet trying find a missing officerHas the RAF contributed much time and effort to the safe return of one of their own or made any statements?
Unless something is going on or known about which isnt being made public
Nothing found yet but they dont think theyve found the right pile of rubbish - theyre looking for Greggs
http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/important-week-for-offi...
http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/important-week-for-offi...
EADT said:
However, Mrs Urquhart said officers were surprised not to have found Corrie yet as they went straight for the area that was identified as having rubbish from that bin lorry placed there.
However, they are now widening the search area to look at areas nearby where the load from the bin lorry in question is likely to be.
“They were surprised they didn’t find him where they were looking before, which is why they’re now trying this area. I would say it’s quite an important week,” said Mrs Urquhart.
She said she and the police were all confident the search so far has been so thorough Corrie could not have been missed.
“Any bits they’ve searched up until now I think it’s fair to say he’s definitely not been in,” she said.
She said this week’s search would concentrate on looking further back in the landfill and preparatory work took place on Friday and Monday.
“They know they’re looking for Greggs rubbish and they’ve not passed Greggs rubbish yet,” Mrs Urquhart said. “They’ve found the odd Greggs cup but they’ve not found what should be a substantial amount of Greggs-branded rubbish.”
However, they are now widening the search area to look at areas nearby where the load from the bin lorry in question is likely to be.
“They were surprised they didn’t find him where they were looking before, which is why they’re now trying this area. I would say it’s quite an important week,” said Mrs Urquhart.
She said she and the police were all confident the search so far has been so thorough Corrie could not have been missed.
“Any bits they’ve searched up until now I think it’s fair to say he’s definitely not been in,” she said.
She said this week’s search would concentrate on looking further back in the landfill and preparatory work took place on Friday and Monday.
“They know they’re looking for Greggs rubbish and they’ve not passed Greggs rubbish yet,” Mrs Urquhart said. “They’ve found the odd Greggs cup but they’ve not found what should be a substantial amount of Greggs-branded rubbish.”
Apparently the rubbish has migrated naturally so theyre having to extend the search
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39816...
If they dont find him there, then what?
Back to Greggs?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39816...
If they dont find him there, then what?
Back to Greggs?
Looks like the airman may still be out there too
Nearly baby photo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39899...
Nearly baby photo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39899...
BlackLabel said:
"Missing airman Corrie McKeague was spotted an hour AFTER the final known sighting, a new witness claims."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/delivery-man-...
It's falling in to place now http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/delivery-man-...
Roy the delivery driver
mirror said:
Roy said: “He ran across the A11 at Barton Mills in front of my van. He was wearing the clothes in the police description – pink shirt, brown boots.
“He stopped on the central reservation and adjusted the jeans above his boots with his foot on the crash barrier.
“Then he ran to the other side and disappeared near an Esso station. He stood out because it was 4.30am, very cold and he was in shirt sleeves. It’s a notorious meeting place for swingers and doggers. I wouldn’t have thought it was a safe place for a lad on his own.”
Roy said he and his wife Maria both reported the sighting to Suffolk Police but detectives failed to follow up the lead.
A force spokesman said: “Police have the report, the time given was prior to Corrie’s phone leaving Bury St Edmunds. There was nothing to link this to Corrie.”
It later emerged his phone had been tracked moving 12 miles north west to Barton Mills, the site of a rubbish tip.
He chucks his phone into the waste bin but gone up to the Esso garage?“He stopped on the central reservation and adjusted the jeans above his boots with his foot on the crash barrier.
“Then he ran to the other side and disappeared near an Esso station. He stood out because it was 4.30am, very cold and he was in shirt sleeves. It’s a notorious meeting place for swingers and doggers. I wouldn’t have thought it was a safe place for a lad on his own.”
Roy said he and his wife Maria both reported the sighting to Suffolk Police but detectives failed to follow up the lead.
A force spokesman said: “Police have the report, the time given was prior to Corrie’s phone leaving Bury St Edmunds. There was nothing to link this to Corrie.”
It later emerged his phone had been tracked moving 12 miles north west to Barton Mills, the site of a rubbish tip.
Or the timings are out and the tracking of the phone is him
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