Can PH solve the missing Honington airman?

Can PH solve the missing Honington airman?

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steveo3002

10,537 posts

175 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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give these guys a call...found some atari games buried for 30 years

https://money.cnn.com/2015/09/01/technology/atari-...

Davos123

5,966 posts

213 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Greendubber said:
Even though the people who run it and weigh the bins told them he couldn't have been in there?

Maybe they should have thrown some darts at a map and searched all those places too.
Yes, they should have queried the weight reading and discovered it was for the wrong truck earlier.

The police knew he was seriously intoxicated, had previous for sleeping in bins, that they had full CCTV coverage of the area and that he didn't leave, that a bin lorry was the only vehicle that entered and exited the area AND HIS MOBILE PHONE TRAVELLED ALONG THE ROUTE OF THE BIN LORRY.

The only piece of evidence that suggested he didn't kip in a bin and end up in a landfill was the weight of the lorry. There were 2 possibilities, 1) that the reading was wrong or 2) that some incredibly complicated abduction took place. The former is obviously far more likely than the latter and it's an absolute joke the police didn't realise that.

Greendubber

13,229 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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Davos123 said:
Greendubber said:
Even though the people who run it and weigh the bins told them he couldn't have been in there?

Maybe they should have thrown some darts at a map and searched all those places too.
Yes, they should have queried the weight reading and discovered it was for the wrong truck earlier.

The police knew he was seriously intoxicated, had previous for sleeping in bins, that they had full CCTV coverage of the area and that he didn't leave, that a bin lorry was the only vehicle that entered and exited the area AND HIS MOBILE PHONE TRAVELLED ALONG THE ROUTE OF THE BIN LORRY.

The only piece of evidence that suggested he didn't kip in a bin and end up in a landfill was the weight of the lorry. There were 2 possibilities, 1) that the reading was wrong or 2) that some incredibly complicated abduction took place. The former is obviously far more likely than the latter and it's an absolute joke the police didn't realise that.
His phone tracked to a transfer site IIRC.

The area the waste was deposited in was searched, he wasn't there....


kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6256343/P...

so finally the police say that the bin weight figures DID suggest he was in the bin.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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kev1974 said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6256343/P...

so finally the police say that the bin weight figures DID suggest he was in the bin.
All this time. Fekin hell.

saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

179 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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TTmonkey said:
kev1974 said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6256343/P...

so finally the police say that the bin weight figures DID suggest he was in the bin.
All this time. Fekin hell.
Where's Belingcat when you need them?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Apparently people sleeping in bins and being discovered by binmen before the bin is emptied is surprisingly common.

The guys who empty the bins at my business have mentioned a couple of times that they are told to ALWAYS check the bins before they new tipped, and on a couple of occasions have found people drunk/asleep in them.

Clearly the policy of Biffa is not to check the bins, or perhaps the crew that day simply didn't bother.

Makes you wonder how many people have died by sleeping in a bin and it being emptied?

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

133 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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As to the fact nothing has been found. Dead or alive, once he'd reached the dump, rats would do the rest.

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/apr/09/local/me-r...
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/german-man-frank-herrman...

StanleyT

1,994 posts

80 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Probably wasn't the missing airman, probably was body parts being stacked up by NHS contractors unable to incinerate them.

/Grudge mode off from ex Architect Engineer to municipal incinerators once councils started not liking them due to greenwash.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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The first 3 or 4 replies on this thread are all of us basically saying “he was in the bin”.

majordad

3,601 posts

198 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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This thread is imho exactly what PHers do well. Great stuff, and not a mention of values and Brexit.

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Wednesday 10th October 2018
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TTmonkey said:
kev1974 said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6256343/P...

so finally the police say that the bin weight figures DID suggest he was in the bin.
All this time. Fekin hell.
The plod in charge accepted ‘computer says’ regarding the bin weight. They seemed to ignore the facts regarding cct showing the guy walk into the bin area but not walk away. Also the mobile phone evidence seemed to be ignored. Eventually the weight of the bin given to the police was inaccurate.
Not plods finest hour showing up a poor mindset in the investigation from the outset imo.

Disastrous

10,090 posts

218 months

Wednesday 10th October 2018
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La Liga said:
Disastrous said:
La Liga said:
Disastrous said:
Literally everybody on the internet, with only scant knowlegde of the facts, said something along the lines of "If the bin said 11kg then it's a mistake somewhere - he's 100% in the tip" and only the Police seemed to think it wasn't worth even a quick scout round, just to double check.
A 'quick scout round' to look for a possibly incinerated, buried body?

That sounds a good practical approach that'll yield a high level of search confidence.
It's massively telling that you had to quote the obviously-understated-for-comedic-effect part of my post to defend the police here.
The other part was worse since data shows you're wrong.

As I say, it may be that it should have been searched earlier given the circumstances, information referenced against search training and tactics and major incident training and tactics.

Either way, I know you don't know.
rofl

Turns out everyone knew.

saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

179 months

Wednesday 10th October 2018
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In the words of a well known detective
sherlock said:
How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?
How improbable was the bin?

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

76 months

Wednesday 10th October 2018
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saaby93 said:
sherlock said:
How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?
How improbable was the bin?
What the bin he walked towards but didn't walk away from? you mean THAT bin...

saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

179 months

Wednesday 10th October 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:
saaby93 said:
sherlock said:
How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?
How improbable was the bin?
What the bin he walked towards but didn't walk away from? you mean THAT bin...
sherlock said:
Perhaps, when a man has special knowledge and special powers, it rather encourages him to seek a complex explanation when a simpler one is at hand.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Wednesday 10th October 2018
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Disastrous said:
La Liga said:
Disastrous said:
La Liga said:
Disastrous said:
Literally everybody on the internet, with only scant knowlegde of the facts, said something along the lines of "If the bin said 11kg then it's a mistake somewhere - he's 100% in the tip" and only the Police seemed to think it wasn't worth even a quick scout round, just to double check.
A 'quick scout round' to look for a possibly incinerated, buried body?

That sounds a good practical approach that'll yield a high level of search confidence.
It's massively telling that you had to quote the obviously-understated-for-comedic-effect part of my post to defend the police here.
The other part was worse since data shows you're wrong.

As I say, it may be that it should have been searched earlier given the circumstances, information referenced against search training and tactics and major incident training and tactics.

Either way, I know you don't know.
Turns out everyone knew.
Only what was pretty obvious to most people.

Don't get drunk and sleep it off in rubbish bins.

There's a moral there, if only I could think what it was.

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Wednesday 10th October 2018
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Don’t drink?

majordad

3,601 posts

198 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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Just Don’t!

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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“ An airman who went missing four years ago is thought to have died after he climbed into an industrial waste bin, an inquest heard.
Corrie Mckeague, 23, who was based at RAF Honington, Suffolk, is believed to have died on 24 September 2016 after a night out in Bury St Edmunds.
Despite extensive searches, his body has never been found.
The inquest was opened at Suffolk Coroner's Court and was adjourned for a pre-inquest review in February.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-5493...