Can PH solve the missing Honington airman?

Can PH solve the missing Honington airman?

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carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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Poor lad. Seems the most plausible, Occam’s Razor type explanation.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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carreauchompeur said:
Poor lad. Seems the most plausible, Occam’s Razor type explanation.
It seemed to be the most plausible reason as soon as it happened. Horrific way to go, a pretty stupid thing to do (falling asleep in an industrial waste bin) but then he won't be the first or last to do something stupid when drunk.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
It seemed to be the most plausible reason as soon as it happened. Horrific way to go, a pretty stupid thing to do (falling asleep in an industrial waste bin) but then he won't be the first or last to do something stupid when drunk.
Yep. Apparently it’s fairly common.

As I posted on this thread a couple of years ago, the bin men who empty the big ‘dumpster’ type bins at my work were telling me one day that they have to check inside the bins before the machine picks them up as they have found people drunk or asleep inside them a few times.

saaby93

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32,038 posts

178 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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carreauchompeur said:
Poor lad. Seems the most plausible, Occam’s Razor type explanation.
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Disastrous

10,083 posts

217 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Just goes to show, if you want to get rid of evidence, chuck it in the bin. It’s literally the last place the police will look and even if they do, they won’t find it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Disastrous said:
Just goes to show, if you want to get rid of evidence, chuck it in the bin. It’s literally the last place the police will look and even if they do, they won’t find it.
This is actually something I have thought about on a few occasions.

Disposing of evidence in a bin must surely be one of the best methods? It promptly gets collected, crushed, mixed with the rubbish from 100,000 other households, then crushed again, and either burnt or buried with millions of tons of other rubbish.

What are the chances of ever finding anything in it?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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In all of this, I think some people who should be spared a thought for are the bin lorry operators who pressed the button which ultimately killed him.

I hope they aren't taking this too personally, as it wasn't their fault.

But, another interesting point is that pretty much all refuse vehicle operators are under strict company rules to check inside bins before they tip them, specifically because of this sort of thing.

If they had checked inside the bin this would never have happened. Now we have this verdict, I wonder if there is any possibility the family may try to sue the refuse collection company for negligence or something?

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
In all of this, I think some people who should be spared a thought for are the bin lorry operators who pressed the button which ultimately killed him.

I hope they aren't taking this too personally, as it wasn't their fault.

But, another interesting point is that pretty much all refuse vehicle operators are under strict company rules to check inside bins before they tip them, specifically because of this sort of thing.

If they had checked inside the bin this would never have happened. Now we have this verdict, I wonder if there is any possibility the family may try to sue the refuse collection company for negligence or something?
How can anyone prove what happened 100%? He could have tucked himself under a load of flat cardboard to keep warm before passing out, Bin man opens lid, sees nowt and tips the bin.

saaby93

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32,038 posts

178 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Maybe the Bin Lorries should have the intelligence instead?
If they see that a bin is 80kg over normal - sound a buzzer ' this bin is overweight' beepity beep' repeat ad nauseum

eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
Disastrous said:
Just goes to show, if you want to get rid of evidence, chuck it in the bin. It’s literally the last place the police will look and even if they do, they won’t find it.
This is actually something I have thought about on a few occasions.

Disposing of evidence in a bin must surely be one of the best methods? It promptly gets collected, crushed, mixed with the rubbish from 100,000 other households, then crushed again, and either burnt or buried with millions of tons of other rubbish.

What are the chances of ever finding anything in it?
Especially if the bin you use isn't covered by CCTV.

coppernorks

1,919 posts

46 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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It was the most probable explanation early on in the case but was dismissed by his family and
other armchair theorists as inconceivable, even though he was well known for having this inexplicable habit of
sleeping in waste bins when rat-bottomed.

Every so often in the USA a car will be found ( camera drones being the great things they are )
in the shallows of a roadside lake containing the remains of someone who mysteriously
went missing years before.

Unfortunately Corrie's family will not even have the small comfort of having a body to bury.

Halmyre

11,199 posts

139 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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saaby93 said:
Maybe the Bin Lorries should have the intelligence instead?
If they see that a bin is 80kg over normal - sound a buzzer ' this bin is overweight' beepity beep' repeat ad nauseum
What's normal though? Sometimes I can barely haul my general waste wheely bin to the roadside if I've been on an enthusiastic bout of clearing-out.


Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Truckosaurus said:
Very much so. Also I'm sure the whole search would have been less thorough if he had worked in Tesco rather than for the RAF.

Sadly it seems whatever scam the binmen were running (causing them to report the collected bins being empty) has prevented them finding conclusive proof of the easiest explanation of what happened.
I'm amazed they placed any emphasis whatsoever on what weights were documented on service like this. Maybe I'm just of a nasty and suspicious nature?

Greendubber

13,209 posts

203 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Disastrous said:
Just goes to show, if you want to get rid of evidence, chuck it in the bin. It’s literally the last place the police will look and even if they do, they won’t find it.
Lots of stuff gets found in bins by police, unfortunately once they're emptied its pretty much impossible.

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Halmyre said:
What's normal though? Sometimes I can barely haul my general waste wheely bin to the roadside if I've been on an enthusiastic bout of clearing-out.
Mine sometimes get like that if my three-weekly sprinkling of rubble into it has been over enthusiastic 😂

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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carreauchompeur said:
Halmyre said:
What's normal though? Sometimes I can barely haul my general waste wheely bin to the roadside if I've been on an enthusiastic bout of clearing-out.
Mine sometimes get like that if my three-weekly sprinkling of rubble into it has been over enthusiastic ??
I don't think a sleeping medium sized elephant would have much noticable weight impact on our lockdown era recycling bin.

eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Lots of talk on the local Facebook pages of bits of woodlands not being searched despite alleged burnt remains being found there, also lots of talk of a taxi driver etc.

Seattaken

496 posts

49 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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anonymous said:
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He wasn't Carlos the Jackel.

FunkyNige

8,883 posts

275 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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anonymous said:
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The "Horseshoe exits being covered by CCTV" wasn't true, despite the family insisting it was. The CCTV was rotating and there were relatively long periods of time he could've just walked out the way he came.
(this is from memory from when it was on the local news).

PurpleTurtle

6,990 posts

144 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Seattaken said:
anonymous said:
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He wasn't Carlos the Jackel.
No use of his bank account and his only real asset (car) left in a parking bay. He was also somebody who was known to be a drinker and a liability when drunk, doubt he would be able to live long-term beneath the radar, it is highly unlikely that he's this generation's Lord Lucan. Sadly, like most people I think he's in that landfill.