Prince Charles is a Muslim

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SKP555

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Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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rscott said:
Er, the first source doesn't strike me as a particularly dependable one... For example, http://www.danielpipes.org/5286/was-barack-obama-a... and http://www.danielpipes.org/5354/confirmed-barack-o... .

As for the second one, he was giving a speech to Islamic studies scholars - wouldn't it make sense to make mention that he thinks the Islamic teachings also share his views on reducing man's impact on the world?
The owner of the web page isn't really the issue. It just collects the information in one place.

As for the second one, none of it really makes much sense to me. I think he's a deluded fool as I always have. This just sets me wondering if he's a deluded fool who has converted to Islam, because as Esseesse and others have said it does have wider implications.

Tom Logan

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Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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SKP555 said:
As for the second one, none of it really makes much sense to me. I think he's a deluded fool as I always have. This just sets me wondering if he's a deluded fool who has converted to Islam, because as Esseesse and others have said it does have wider implications.
scratchchin

Has he said this in a spat aimed at Betty 'cos she hasn't bailed out of the Big Chair early to give him a decent long shot in The Seat?

I think Harry Wales should be next in line, he'll be useless but good crack.

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Eric Mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Derek Smith said:
Eric Mc said:
Look what happened to the last king who tried to change the state religion.
To whom are your referring?
I was thinking of Charles I.

Tom Logan

3,227 posts

126 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Derek Smith said:
Eric Mc said:
Look what happened to the last king who tried to change the state religion.
To whom are your referring?
I was thinking of Charles I.
That didn't end well for him but it was more to do with politics than religion although at the time the two were inexorably entwined.

Wacky Racer

38,186 posts

248 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Anyone who talks to plants is clearly a nutter.

Flobbalop weed.....


rscott

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192 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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SKP555 said:
rscott said:
Er, the first source doesn't strike me as a particularly dependable one... For example, http://www.danielpipes.org/5286/was-barack-obama-a... and http://www.danielpipes.org/5354/confirmed-barack-o... .

As for the second one, he was giving a speech to Islamic studies scholars - wouldn't it make sense to make mention that he thinks the Islamic teachings also share his views on reducing man's impact on the world?
The owner of the web page isn't really the issue. It just collects the information in one place.

As for the second one, none of it really makes much sense to me. I think he's a deluded fool as I always have. This just sets me wondering if he's a deluded fool who has converted to Islam, because as Esseesse and others have said it does have wider implications.
The source makes a massive difference - or at least how the present 'facts'. For example, Charles has also visited synagogues , mosques and even Catholic churches, yet they're not reported on that site as though he's converting to those faiths.
Muslims make up a noticeable % of the UK population, so it makes sense for him to spend time learning about that religion. Just as he's done with most others.

The author of that site has a less that neutral view on Muslims too (the reason he was blocked from taking up a role as an advisor to Bush jnr a few years ago), so is obviously spinning it for his own agenda.


del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Do you think somebody feeds him a couple of phrases and off he goes ?

What is his opinion of;

Halal slaughter

Beating your wife

Death for apostasy

Etc eye.

Of course islam is at one with the enviroment, it is hardly the leader in scientific development.

Tom Logan

3,227 posts

126 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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del mar said:
Do you think somebody feeds him a couple of phrases and off he goes ?

What is his opinion of;

Halal slaughter

Beating your wife

Death for apostasy

Etc eye.

Of course islam is at one with the enviroment, it is hardly the leader in scientific development.
Calm down son, it's been sorted. <MI6>

SKP555

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1,114 posts

127 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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rscott said:
The source makes a massive difference - or at least how the present 'facts'. For example, Charles has also visited synagogues , mosques and even Catholic churches, yet they're not reported on that site as though he's converting to those faiths.
Muslims make up a noticeable % of the UK population, so it makes sense for him to spend time learning about that religion. Just as he's done with most others.

The author of that site has a less that neutral view on Muslims too (the reason he was blocked from taking up a role as an advisor to Bush jnr a few years ago), so is obviously spinning it for his own agenda.
I didn't really take it as a value judgement on Islam either way. I'm curious as to whether he is a convert both as a citizen of the UK and an Anglican.

Maybe he does say similar things about Judaism etc (any references?), but he didn't talk about that in his Christmas address, he talked about Islam.

SKP555

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Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Tom, yes Harry gets my vote. Charles makes me sympathetic to the idea of a republic.

rscott

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192 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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SKP555 said:
rscott said:
The source makes a massive difference - or at least how the present 'facts'. For example, Charles has also visited synagogues , mosques and even Catholic churches, yet they're not reported on that site as though he's converting to those faiths.
Muslims make up a noticeable % of the UK population, so it makes sense for him to spend time learning about that religion. Just as he's done with most others.

The author of that site has a less that neutral view on Muslims too (the reason he was blocked from taking up a role as an advisor to Bush jnr a few years ago), so is obviously spinning it for his own agenda.
I didn't really take it as a value judgement on Islam either way. I'm curious as to whether he is a convert both as a citizen of the UK and an Anglican.

Maybe he does say similar things about Judaism etc (any references?), but he didn't talk about that in his Christmas address, he talked about Islam.
When considering the veracity of an article, it makes sense to compare against other output from the same source. That shaped my view that the 'story' is a a bit pathetic.

Here's another option for you - Charles is secretly Jewish..
https://www.thejc.com/culture/books/why-i-m-sure-t...
http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/prince-charles...
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/cigpapers.wordpress...

Tom Logan

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126 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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I didn't really take it as a value judgement on Islam either way. I'm curious as to whether he is a convert both as a citizen of the UK and an Anglican.

Maybe he does say similar things about Judaism etc (any references?), but he didn't talk about that in his Christmas address, he talked about Islam.

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Fair point but to counter, I've always been a fan of the current German clan BUT the likes of Air miles Andy and his progeny ought to be thrown to the mercy of the peasantry IE you and I et al, as to there future prospects, I must admit I'd be quite partial to a well fed aristocratic young female with royal connections.

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Janluke

2,590 posts

159 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Maybe he just wants Camilla to wear a Burka

Troubleatmill

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160 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Any honour killings in the family?

Oh... right.

SKP555

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Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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rscott
The first 2 just talk about his affinity with judaism and don't really suggest he has converted. The second one opens with

The long term goal of multiculturalism is the genocide of White Nations to be replaced by a 99% coffee coloured, dumbed down, debt-slave race to serve a 1% jewish master race.

Which is a starting assumption I reject.

It goes on to make a load of other assertions which don't bear much scrutiny.

You might not like the author of the article in the OP but he does seem to mostly quote mainstream news sources. Do you actually dispute what he says or just don't like the author?

Hainey

4,381 posts

201 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Troubleatmill said:
Any honour killings in the family?

Oh... right.
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Very good!

SKP555

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Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Troubleatmill said:
Any honour killings in the family?

Oh... right.
rofl

That's good

Derek Smith

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Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Eric Mc said:
I was thinking of Charles I.
I've read a lot about the British Civil Wars, my favourite, in the sense of most interesting, period. I've can't escape the conclusion that Chas was an idiot. Whilst the new prayer book went down with just a few objections in England, what did he think would happen in Scotland? Without the hierarchy of bishops and others more interested in their own advancement over their flock, there was no control.

A dolt.

There's lots of argument about whether he was catholic but very little evidence to suggest that was his intent. He had a catholic wife but that was little bother apart from the fact he liked her.

I've read books where the BCWs were described as religious wars but then again, I've got one that suggested that parliament was more of less Marxist in intent. I don't think it was religious other than Chas thought of himself as divine in a way. The rest was just a power struggle. It was the Roses all over again, but this time the winner took the crown but not the title.


SKP555

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Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Tom

I'm hoping for the heiress of a fallen aristocratic family sitting on piles of cash and land but scared of the baying republican mob and seeking an ordinary working man as a perfect cover.

FN2TypeR

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94 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Troubleatmill said:
Any honour killings in the family?

Oh... right.
rofl

God damned wayward females!

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