Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 4
Discussion
robinessex said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Death and Taxes.
I don't have a claim in the statistics at all and it was merely an unnecessary tangent I apologise for taking the discussion down- but it appeared to be a not entirely dissimilar correlation between smoking and cancer, or mankinds activities and climate change, based on your lengthy post late afternoon yesterday.
Is smoking a gamble ?
Is humanity willing to gamble? A win is great- but a loss is likely fatal in both cases.
Considering dinosaurs lived for about 50,000,000 years with much higher CO2 in a rather lush environment, I’ll take my chances. Not That any of us will around to experience it anyway !!!I don't have a claim in the statistics at all and it was merely an unnecessary tangent I apologise for taking the discussion down- but it appeared to be a not entirely dissimilar correlation between smoking and cancer, or mankinds activities and climate change, based on your lengthy post late afternoon yesterday.
Is smoking a gamble ?
Is humanity willing to gamble? A win is great- but a loss is likely fatal in both cases.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Yes I know and agree - ppm has f
k all effect on humans and plants
Why set aside these beneficial effects even if it's for failed sarcy effect? k all effect on humans and plantsThey've been discussed several times including recently on this thread.
400 ppmv is doing good.
On the other hand, the point about incremental increases that you replied to is spot on.
Adding ppmv at this stage is incapable of doing what's being claimed for it by junk science followers, religious acolytes, vested interests and ignorant politicians.
That's putting aside other major fallacies relating to carbon dioxide - the lack of any visible causal human signal in global climate data, the fact that carbon dioxide changes follow temperature shifts on all timescales in the geological record and contemporary data, and that model gigo is treated as evidence when it isn't, all demonstrate these fallacies.
Defund Climate Change Hysteria to Pay for Pre-Existing Conditions
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/48950
The Alarming Cost of Alarmist Climate Hysteria
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/08/23/...
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/48950
Joe Bstardi said:
Do climate change researchers need the money more than our sick, poor and needy? I think not. I know not.
As to how much money is being wasted on climate fairytales, and what the 'benefit' is, click the link - but don't expect faithful believers to have any sort of grip on their side.The Alarming Cost of Alarmist Climate Hysteria
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/08/23/...
turbobloke said:
Defund Climate Change Hysteria to Pay for Pre-Existing Conditions
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/48950
The Alarming Cost of Alarmist Climate Hysteria
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/08/23/...
lol @ 'patriotpost' https://patriotpost.us/opinion/48950
Joe Bstardi said:
Do climate change researchers need the money more than our sick, poor and needy? I think not. I know not.
As to how much money is being wasted on climate fairytales, and what the 'benefit' is, click the link - but don't expect faithful believers to have any sort of grip on their side.The Alarming Cost of Alarmist Climate Hysteria
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/08/23/...
Yeehaw.
Here's some more politics for the politics thread with (amzingly) a political blog as its source. Whoda thunkit. There's some evidence in there too which will challenge the faith of the faitfhful.
The only thing that the green blob can get right is spending tons of taxpayer money they don't warrant receiving in the first place as per links posted earlier.
Climate Depot said:
It’s not just droughts, but nearly all extreme weather is declining or at or near record lows
The federal government has just released yet another key piece of scientific data that counters the man-made global warming narrative.
With cooling as the new warming, and alkaline the new acid, normal will soon be the new extreme The federal government has just released yet another key piece of scientific data that counters the man-made global warming narrative.
The only thing that the green blob can get right is spending tons of taxpayer money they don't warrant receiving in the first place as per links posted earlier.
jjlynn27 said:
Expect one of the following; secondary sources, appeal to authority, play the ball, 'liebore' followed by a quote from Rush Limbaugh.
It's almost like a simple, 5 line bash script.
Thanks for your 6th post here, contribution very welcome. Have you read all 1603 pages in this Forum subject? Anyway, keep up the good work at work, we definitely need green energy to save the planet. And if you have the time to spare, can you give us the link to CO2 causing rising temperatures and CC, and, while you’re at it, tell how the planet will suffer when the temperature goes up 0.7 degrees in 100 years. Or whatever minute amount it is today. Thanks.It's almost like a simple, 5 line bash script.
Arctic summit: Trump to make 'right decision for the US' on climate
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39892472
The US will consider its interests first as it reviews its climate change policy, the secretary of state says.
Rex Tillerson told a meeting of the eight Arctic nations in Alaska that the US would not rush to make a decision and would consider their views.
President Donald Trump has expressed doubts over the human role in climate change and has said he may pull the US out of the Paris Accord to fight it.......................continues.
Contains a content of CC bks in the accompanying video by the Beebs James Cook. Nice little trip for him to make, standing in a boat, in a river, for about a 1 mintue broadcast !!!
The old Beeb is really flogging the CC horse this week.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39892472
The US will consider its interests first as it reviews its climate change policy, the secretary of state says.
Rex Tillerson told a meeting of the eight Arctic nations in Alaska that the US would not rush to make a decision and would consider their views.
President Donald Trump has expressed doubts over the human role in climate change and has said he may pull the US out of the Paris Accord to fight it.......................continues.
Contains a content of CC b
ks in the accompanying video by the Beebs James Cook. Nice little trip for him to make, standing in a boat, in a river, for about a 1 mintue broadcast !!!The old Beeb is really flogging the CC horse this week.
jjlynn27 said:
Expect one of the following; secondary sources, appeal to authority, play the ball, 'liebore' followed by a quote from Rush Limbaugh.
It's almost like a simple, 5 line bash script.
I've seriously contemplated the idea that if turbobloke is not a paid propagandist, it could be a bot. There are bots on Twitter that use exactly the same techniques, although a lot of those may be paid propagandists too.It's almost like a simple, 5 line bash script.
The clues are certainly there - never stops, a heavy reliance on memes and embedding phrases (on Twitter that'd be the hashtags), and each post is basically statements taken from a limited pool, strung together.
If not, I reckon I could write one pretty easily
turbobloke said:
This is the politics thread. Do you guys even know where you are?
Clueless on evidence/data and now sources.
jjlynn27 most certainly knows where he is!Clueless on evidence/data and now sources.
He lives in the 'green' hall of the mountain king, in fact, he could even be King Troll himself.
So, after me, as loud as you can if you're ignorant of the 'fact'.
In the mode of 'It's a PUPPET!'
'He's a TROLL!'
durbster said:
jjlynn27 said:
Expect one of the following; secondary sources, appeal to authority, play the ball, 'liebore' followed by a quote from Rush Limbaugh.
It's almost like a simple, 5 line bash script.
I've seriously contemplated the idea that if turbobloke is not a paid propagandist, it could be a bot. There are bots on Twitter that use exactly the same techniques, although a lot of those may be paid propagandists too.It's almost like a simple, 5 line bash script.
The clues are certainly there - never stops, a heavy reliance on memes and embedding phrases (on Twitter that'd be the hashtags), and each post is basically statements taken from a limited pool, strung together.
If not, I reckon I could write one pretty easily
Anyone who wastes his time here instead of claiming the $100,000 prize, for proving man made global warming is true, must be a monuMental 'tard, yes?
mybrainhurts said:
durbster said:
jjlynn27 said:
Expect one of the following; secondary sources, appeal to authority, play the ball, 'liebore' followed by a quote from Rush Limbaugh.
It's almost like a simple, 5 line bash script.
I've seriously contemplated the idea that if turbobloke is not a paid propagandist, it could be a bot. There are bots on Twitter that use exactly the same techniques, although a lot of those may be paid propagandists too.It's almost like a simple, 5 line bash script.
The clues are certainly there - never stops, a heavy reliance on memes and embedding phrases (on Twitter that'd be the hashtags), and each post is basically statements taken from a limited pool, strung together.
If not, I reckon I could write one pretty easily
Anyone who wastes his time here instead of claiming the $100,000 prize, for proving man made global warming is true, must be a monuMental 'tard, yes?
As for the republican link claiming that the poor in the USA should get the cash instead of it being given to combat CC, well.
Trump, handing out cash to the poor? Oh dear god thats almost as funny as the Brexit campaigns £350m a week to the NHS.
dandarez said:
'He's a TROLL!'
There's a lot of it about these days.Anyone on the faith side secretly dismayed by the lack of any credible data for their position alongside the decline in extreme weather, resulting in an ongoing reliance on faith/spin/trolling, should log in to Gaia Online. There's an Anthem to Gaia they can chant to feel better at times of stress. After that, a begging letter to Ivanka might help.
Talking of stress, any vested interests north of the Wall (Hadrian, not Donald) might want to polish their cv. One in six greenblobjobs are at risk - that's around 3500 blobjobs.
https://www.scottishrenewables.com/news/one-six-re...
"Due to the commercial sensitivities around the survey, evidence was collated anonymously."
Commercial sensitivity aye. It's only taxpayer money involved, but as this is the costly green blob no 'openness and transparency' is expected.
turbobloke said:
Beyond Scotland...
IIRC it was last year that the Solar Trade Association claimed nearly 30,000 jobs were at risk across the UK. Can't find any updates. You'd think they would be aware of sustainability issues at the outset.
Now you mention it ... whilst the spam phone calls are still coming in it's been a while since I inadvertently picked one up that resulted in a mention of solar panels.IIRC it was last year that the Solar Trade Association claimed nearly 30,000 jobs were at risk across the UK. Can't find any updates. You'd think they would be aware of sustainability issues at the outset.
Used to get about 3 a week..
One of the downsides of working mostly out of a home office.
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