Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 4
Discussion
Ali G said:
See that Cliff Richard?
Beeb has totally lost the plot!
Beeb has totally lost the plot!
Deforestation my ar...charcoal stick.
The BBC must have forgotten a recent survey which found 422 trees for every person on Earth. At more than 7 times the previous estimate of 400 billion, worries over charcoal are obviously manufactured just like the charcoal. Apparently the most recent total is around 3.1 billion trees when less than 5 years ago climate scientists (and some others) truly believed there were 'only' 400 million.
Being anywhere near a factor of ten out is pretty good for anything to do with agw junkscience.
Edited by turbobloke on Friday 20th July 22:26
Must be a bad news day at the Beeb
Arctic wild goose chase threatens chicks as temperatures rise
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-448...
Rising temperatures in the Arctic are encouraging Barnacle geese to speed up their migration journeys north every spring, says a new study.
But their efforts to go faster are leaving them too drained to lay their eggs early when they arrive.
This is bad news for the species as their chicks are hatched too late to take advantage of the best food, so fewer are surviving.
The scientists involved say the birds will have to adapt and migrate earlier.
Every spring these geese set out from their temperate wintering grounds in the North Sea, often stopping off in the Baltic to rest on their way to their breeding areas in the Russian Arctic.
However climate change is seeing spring arrive earlier in the Arctic, something the geese are blissfully unaware of, until about half way through their journeys..................continues
Arctic wild goose chase threatens chicks as temperatures rise
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-448...
Rising temperatures in the Arctic are encouraging Barnacle geese to speed up their migration journeys north every spring, says a new study.
But their efforts to go faster are leaving them too drained to lay their eggs early when they arrive.
This is bad news for the species as their chicks are hatched too late to take advantage of the best food, so fewer are surviving.
The scientists involved say the birds will have to adapt and migrate earlier.
Every spring these geese set out from their temperate wintering grounds in the North Sea, often stopping off in the Baltic to rest on their way to their breeding areas in the Russian Arctic.
However climate change is seeing spring arrive earlier in the Arctic, something the geese are blissfully unaware of, until about half way through their journeys..................continues
LongQ said:
turbobloke said:
Apparently the most recent total is around 3.1 billion trees when less than 5 years ago climate scientists (and some others) truly believed there were 'only' 400 million.
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Edited by turbobloke on Friday 20th July 22:26
Another costly green blob mess has hit the news after an infrastructural 
group of MPs reviewing the so-called smart meter rollout found that the project was well over budget, behind schedule, sometimes installed obsolete equipment and/or dumb meters (due to mobile phone coverage?) and was nowhere near to delivering the consumer savings that had been touted.
This is hardly a surprise and won't trouble ministers unduly given that the key reason for plugging this kit is the part of the spec allowing remote load limiting and remote cut-off.
Thou must not consume energy! Carbon sinners repent and believe!! And pay up when the next unduly high energy bill arrives, unduly high partly thanks to green blob subsidies.
Marvellous. Rumour has it that there's a talking head from the over-budget, behind-schedule fitting outfit doing the rounds spinning for his salary. Telling somebody like that to 'go spin' would be taken as a compliment.
group of MPs reviewing the so-called smart meter rollout found that the project was well over budget, behind schedule, sometimes installed obsolete equipment and/or dumb meters (due to mobile phone coverage?) and was nowhere near to delivering the consumer savings that had been touted.This is hardly a surprise and won't trouble ministers unduly given that the key reason for plugging
this kit is the part of the spec allowing remote load limiting and remote cut-off. Thou must not consume energy! Carbon sinners repent and believe!! And pay up when the next unduly high energy bill arrives, unduly high partly thanks to green blob subsidies.
Marvellous. Rumour has it that there's a talking head from the over-budget, behind-schedule fitting outfit doing the rounds spinning for his salary. Telling somebody like that to 'go spin' would be taken as a compliment.
Has anything governments been involved in been a success. I can't think of any. Be an interesting exercise to list all the disasters instigated by them since the end of WW2. I’m still waiting for all the free gas we were supposed to get after the discovery of it in the North Sea. Also the ultra-cheap Nuclear generated electricity.
jet_noise said:
steveT350C said:
Interesting that that have created the mini compound around what looks like a street lamp. Maybe the inference is that the main electrical supply is being taken from the street lamp supply?
ETA:
http://www.powerhire.uk.com/fuel-tank-hire/
Edited by LongQ on Saturday 21st July 12:46
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Based on the companies web site info the smaller box in the foreground looks very much like a fuel tank. The signs on the side would suggest that too but I can't see enough detail to confirm what they advise - perhaps someone familiar with the industry knows what they are?
Interesting that that have created the mini compound around what looks like a street lamp. Maybe the inference is that the main electrical supply is being taken from the street lamp supply?
ETA:
http://www.powerhire.uk.com/fuel-tank-hire/
Is there enough oomph in a streetlamp supply, I doubt it.
I since read elsewhere that there are some leccie bus trials where gennies are being used but should they prove successful (whatever that means) grid connected chargers would be installed. Maybe this is one such trial (Still worth a grin in the short term).
Based on the companies web site info the smaller box in the foreground looks very much like a fuel tank. The signs on the side would suggest that too but I can't see enough detail to confirm what they advise - perhaps someone familiar with the industry knows what they are?
Interesting that that have created the mini compound around what looks like a street lamp. Maybe the inference is that the main electrical supply is being taken from the street lamp supply?
ETA:
http://www.powerhire.uk.com/fuel-tank-hire/
Is there enough oomph in a streetlamp supply, I doubt it.
I since read elsewhere that there are some leccie bus trials where gennies are being used but should they prove successful (whatever that means) grid connected chargers would be installed. Maybe this is one such trial (Still worth a grin in the short term).
jet_noise said:
LongQ said:
Based on the companies web site info the smaller box in the foreground looks very much like a fuel tank. The signs on the side would suggest that too but I can't see enough detail to confirm what they advise - perhaps someone familiar with the industry knows what they are?
Interesting that that have created the mini compound around what looks like a street lamp. Maybe the inference is that the main electrical supply is being taken from the street lamp supply?
ETA:
http://www.powerhire.uk.com/fuel-tank-hire/
Is there enough oomph in a streetlamp supply, I doubt it.Interesting that that have created the mini compound around what looks like a street lamp. Maybe the inference is that the main electrical supply is being taken from the street lamp supply?
ETA:
http://www.powerhire.uk.com/fuel-tank-hire/
I since read elsewhere that there are some leccie bus trials where gennies are being used but should they prove successful (whatever that means) grid connected chargers would be installed. Maybe this is one such trial (Still worth a grin in the short term).
However the appearance of the street lamp, whether used or not, would reinforce the message.
Or it may just be acting as a security light for the genny kit, especially the fuel tank.
mybrainhurts said:
Google rushes in where Gordon Brown failed to tread.
If only El Gordo had saved the world on two previous occasions it would have then saved Google a lot of money...but it's theirs to waste.
mybrainhurts said:
"More evidence that taxpayer funds are not required for climate research."But we'll keep funding it though eh
dickymint said:
mybrainhurts said:
"More evidence that taxpayer funds are not required for climate research."But we'll keep funding it though eh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1MZ8U8C9c8
I know, I know 'appeal to authority!'.
This thread reminds me of a thread where few anti-vaxxers were giving each other reach-around, reassuring each other that they are not mental and fawning over A Wakefield & Co. 'science'. 'Look, the actual doctor agrees!'
I know, I know 'appeal to authority!'.
This thread reminds me of a thread where few anti-vaxxers were giving each other reach-around, reassuring each other that they are not mental and fawning over A Wakefield & Co. 'science'. 'Look, the actual doctor agrees!'
jjlynn27 said:
I know you watched the vid at your own link so you might have stopped laughing by now at the captions, starting with the confession that he's "not a primate scientist" then no credible empirical data just an opinion piece blah blah - so please, no more monkeying around.Empirical data overtrumps
any opinion from anyone anywhere anytime.jjlynn27 said:
This thread reminds me of...
It's a thread where from time to time you (and others) are free to pop in with no adequate response to the peer reviewed research based on empirical data showing a lack of any visible anthropogenic forcing in top-of-atmosphere radiative imbalance (energy) data, and no visible causal human signal in any global climate (temperature) data.
As you'll be keen to rush off to your nearest uni library to re-read this research evidence, your non-points (authority fallacy, consensus fallacy, opinion hot air etc) are obliterated by Stephens et al, Monnin et al, and Humlum et al.
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