Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 4
Discussion
With This Staff said:
gadgetmac said:
With This Staff said:
gadgetmac said:
With This Staff said:
gadgetmac said:
You’ll rarely get an answer to that. To his credit TB has told us what he has done although like everything on the interweb it may part b
ks but he at least stated his credentials.
The others who question the scientists, renewables agents, pilots etc could be student canvassers or the like for all anyone knows.
I see chimp-omatic flinging feces again.ks but he at least stated his credentials.The others who question the scientists, renewables agents, pilots etc could be student canvassers or the like for all anyone knows.
t and I have more than one log-in.This was the point you were making?
As for log-ins, are you saying you’ve only ever posted 14 times on PH?
Glitch is the answer
El stovey said:
I find it really creepy how you keep going on about my job and what you think about me and TB.
I’m very good at my job and am quite comfortable flying with unreliable instruments or conflicting information and having “to think”. That’s why I’ve been in command of large aircraft carrying hundreds of people, for many years and have had to prove my competency and ability “to think” many times and am required to do so on a regular basis.
What’s your job btw? You seem very interested and keep mentioning mine. Perhaps you can tell us what you do so we can analyse your ability to think and speculate on why it might lead you to adopt the position that you have?
creepy ? fair enough,everyone's perception of things is different. what i stated above is down to you continually intimating tb has a group of "followers" blindly hanging off every word he posts. many of your posts are having a go at tb, not debating the topic at hand beyond occasional appeals to authority.I’m very good at my job and am quite comfortable flying with unreliable instruments or conflicting information and having “to think”. That’s why I’ve been in command of large aircraft carrying hundreds of people, for many years and have had to prove my competency and ability “to think” many times and am required to do so on a regular basis.
What’s your job btw? You seem very interested and keep mentioning mine. Perhaps you can tell us what you do so we can analyse your ability to think and speculate on why it might lead you to adopt the position that you have?
i might also be having a bit of a smart arse dig seeing as that seems to be de rigeur among the blind believer element on here. i don't do anything for a living at the moment , just go fishing as often as i can. as for mentioning your job,i have done twice, maybe three times since you posted what you did for a living.
i thought your training may be one reason why you accept appeals to authority so readily, it might not be, but that is the impression i got. i come from a family that has been involved in commercial aviation for decades so i have a general interest anyway.
gadgetmac said:
El stovey said:
I find it really creepy how you keep going on about my job and what you think about me and TB.
I’m very good at my job and am quite comfortable flying with unreliable instruments or conflicting information and having “to think”. That’s why I’ve been in command of large aircraft carrying hundreds of people, for many years and have had to prove my competency and ability “to think” many times and am required to do so on a regular basis.
What’s your job btw? You seem very interested and keep mentioning mine. Perhaps you can tell us what you do so we can analyse your ability to think and speculate on why it might lead you to adopt the position that you have?
You’ll rarely get an answer to that. To his credit TB has told us what he has done although like everything on the interweb it may part bI’m very good at my job and am quite comfortable flying with unreliable instruments or conflicting information and having “to think”. That’s why I’ve been in command of large aircraft carrying hundreds of people, for many years and have had to prove my competency and ability “to think” many times and am required to do so on a regular basis.
What’s your job btw? You seem very interested and keep mentioning mine. Perhaps you can tell us what you do so we can analyse your ability to think and speculate on why it might lead you to adopt the position that you have?
ks but he at least stated his credentials.The others who question the scientists, renewables agents, pilots etc could be student canvassers or the like for all anyone knows.
wc98 said:
El stovey said:
I find it really creepy how you keep going on about my job and what you think about me and TB.
I’m very good at my job and am quite comfortable flying with unreliable instruments or conflicting information and having “to think”. That’s why I’ve been in command of large aircraft carrying hundreds of people, for many years and have had to prove my competency and ability “to think” many times and am required to do so on a regular basis.
What’s your job btw? You seem very interested and keep mentioning mine. Perhaps you can tell us what you do so we can analyse your ability to think and speculate on why it might lead you to adopt the position that you have?
creepy ? fair enough,everyone's perception of things is different. what i stated above is down to you continually intimating tb has a group of "followers" blindly hanging off every word he posts. many of your posts are having a go at tb, not debating the topic at hand beyond occasional appeals to authority.I’m very good at my job and am quite comfortable flying with unreliable instruments or conflicting information and having “to think”. That’s why I’ve been in command of large aircraft carrying hundreds of people, for many years and have had to prove my competency and ability “to think” many times and am required to do so on a regular basis.
What’s your job btw? You seem very interested and keep mentioning mine. Perhaps you can tell us what you do so we can analyse your ability to think and speculate on why it might lead you to adopt the position that you have?
Once more back on topic: if any agw supporters are feeling needy there's always ecopsychology, or rather there is now.
"NEW Free helpline. Handbook promotes ‘Climate Change Psychological Support Network’ "
It may not be plain green sailing however as there's an informed opinion that 'The Climate Change Empowerment Handbook’ is a handy guide on how to take happy people and make them stressed.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/08/31/eco-psychol...
Cool.
wc98 said:
i i don't do anything for a living at the moment , just go fishing as often as i can.
What was your job before you retired or before you became unemployed? You seem to think banging on about my job gives you an insight into how I think, I’m trying to understand how your job and your training might influence your view on climate change and make you think the way you do?
turbobloke said:
It's all agw supporters have to offer at the moment. It's either try and fail with attacks on me, or try and fail with smears aimed at others who express disagreement with agw by falsely protraying such people as automatons -
On one side there’s a scientific consensus and the vast majority of scientific institutions and on the other there’s you and your car forum cult and you think that means your gang somehow have the upper hand?, 
That’s just extraordinary arrogance and pomposity. Why do you think the scientific consensus isn’t in agreement with you? Is it because all these experts and institutions are wrong or corrupt or infiltrated by agents?
You frequently post up facts that get disproved and other misrepresented information. Your scientific view is completely blinded by your political dogma. It’s actually very dishonest how you continuously try to mislead some of the more easily led people on here. You must know you’re posting propaganda from politically motivated sites. Why aren’t you posting evidence from the great scientific institutions?
durbster said:
turbobloke said:
LoonyTunes said:
How reliable are Satellite temperature readings?
More reliable than botch after botch after botch inflicted on data from sensors near aircon outlets, chimneys, car parks, aircraft, airport tarmac, trash burners and rooftops. a) turbobloke and his propaganda blogs,
b) RSS - who provide the satellite data:
Carl Mears of RSS said:
Even if 0.03 K/decade were added to the best-estimate trend value of 0.123 K/decade, it would still be at the extreme low end of the model trends. A similar, but stronger case can be made using surface temperature datasets, which I consider to be more reliable than satellite datasets (they certainly agree with each other better than the various satellite datasets do!).
http://www.remss.com/blog/recent-slowing-rise-global-temperatures/A few years back I posted this as yet another example of turbobloke misleading people, proven by the source itself. It's a common theme.
Btw robinessex, this also addresses that misleading graph you've copied from turbobloke, who repeatedly posted it off his propaganda blogs four years ago when it had the illusion of validity.
El stovey said:
turbobloke said:
It's all agw supporters have to offer at the moment. It's either try and fail with attacks on me, or try and fail with smears aimed at others who express disagreement with agw by falsely protraying such people as automatons -
On one side there’s a scientific consensus and the vast majority of scientific institutions and on the other there’s you and your car forum cult and you think that means your gang somehow have the upper hand?, That’s just extraordinary arrogance and pomposity. Why do you think the scientific consensus isn’t in agreement with you? Is it because all these experts and institutions are wrong or corrupt or infiltrated by agents?
You frequently post up facts that get disproved and other misrepresented information. Your scientific view is completely blinded by your political dogma. It’s actually very dishonest how you continuously try to mislead some of the more easily led people on here. You must know you’re posting propaganda from politically motivated sites. Why aren’t you posting evidence from the great scientific institutions?
Thanks again for the flattering and amusing attention. Pointless but it must do something for you
wc98 said:
apparently not, climate scientists are the only scientists that never get anything wrong. we should probably just give them everything they ask for and shut the global economy down now to save the world.
Climate 'science' is in actuality Physics - which scares the crap out of greenblob.Yeah Physics.
A bit of science before the politics gets shredded. Some may recall, others may want to forget, that I recently posted details from peer-reviewed science by Xu et al (2018) also Kamenos and Hennige (2018) demonstrating reproducibility regarding coral bleaching as a natural phenomenon pre-dating anthropogenic carbon dioxide from widespread mass use of fossil fuels, with events centred on 1690, 1750 and 1890.
Here's the politics receiving due attention.
https://www.xyz.net.au/science-cried-wolf/
Here's the politics receiving due attention.
https://www.xyz.net.au/science-cried-wolf/
V8 Fettler said:
gadgetmac said:
El stovey said:
I find it really creepy how you keep going on about my job and what you think about me and TB.
I’m very good at my job and am quite comfortable flying with unreliable instruments or conflicting information and having “to think”. That’s why I’ve been in command of large aircraft carrying hundreds of people, for many years and have had to prove my competency and ability “to think” many times and am required to do so on a regular basis.
What’s your job btw? You seem very interested and keep mentioning mine. Perhaps you can tell us what you do so we can analyse your ability to think and speculate on why it might lead you to adopt the position that you have?
You’ll rarely get an answer to that. To his credit TB has told us what he has done although like everything on the interweb it may part bI’m very good at my job and am quite comfortable flying with unreliable instruments or conflicting information and having “to think”. That’s why I’ve been in command of large aircraft carrying hundreds of people, for many years and have had to prove my competency and ability “to think” many times and am required to do so on a regular basis.
What’s your job btw? You seem very interested and keep mentioning mine. Perhaps you can tell us what you do so we can analyse your ability to think and speculate on why it might lead you to adopt the position that you have?
ks but he at least stated his credentials.The others who question the scientists, renewables agents, pilots etc could be student canvassers or the like for all anyone knows.
gadgetmac said:
There’s questioning and there’s arguing with them whereupon your own background should be revealed so we can make an assessment of who’s interpretation of the data is likely the correct one, who has done the proper research etc...the scientists or the sparkies.
Why? A thing can be wrong regardless of who asks the question. And if you think experts know everything, then you are one of those who does not consider themselves intelligent enough to ask the questions. Others are.
With This Staff said:
gadgetmac said:
There’s questioning and there’s arguing with them whereupon your own background should be revealed so we can make an assessment of who’s interpretation of the data is likely the correct one, who has done the proper research etc...the scientists or the sparkies.
Everyone knows that you are peado wife-beating drug trafficking whoore.Why deny it?
Jasandjules said:
gadgetmac said:
There’s questioning and there’s arguing with them whereupon your own background should be revealed so we can make an assessment of who’s interpretation of the data is likely the correct one, who has done the proper research etc...the scientists or the sparkies.
Why? A thing can be wrong regardless of who asks the question. And if you think experts know everything, then you are one of those who does not consider themselves intelligent enough to ask the questions. Others are.
Jasandjules said:
gadgetmac said:
Yeah, lets go with the bus drivers on this one.
If they are correct it matters not what they do for a living. Quite a disgusting attitude to have against an entire profession and your prejudice does you no favours at all.
The moral ground you’re attempting to claim...it’s gonna swallow you up.
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