tesla , the future ?

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BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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“Tesla is closing all of its stores in a cost-cutting measure, so it can lower the starting price of its Model 3 to $35,000 (£26,400).

Elon Musk, the billionaire chief executive of the electric car and technology company, said that a shift to selling online only was essential to make it financially viable to lower the current starting price of $42,900”

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/01...

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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If demand is much greater than supply ( IIRC - there are already 400,000 orders for the car ) - you don't need the dealerships to help drive more demand.

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Troubleatmill said:
If demand is much greater than supply ( IIRC - there are already 400,000 orders for the car ) - you don't need the dealerships to help drive more demand.
I think the 400K orders was from 2 years ago ?

There aren’t 400K waiting customers now.

menousername

2,108 posts

142 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Troubleatmill said:
If demand is much greater than supply ( IIRC - there are already 400,000 orders for the car ) - you don't need the dealerships to help drive more demand.
According to Bloomberg news Musk is advising they will not be profitable for Q1.... in other words expecting to post a loss. Closing stores is a cost saving exercise apparently to help deliver the promised entry-priced Model 3

Not-The-Messiah

3,620 posts

81 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Troubleatmill said:
If demand is much greater than supply ( IIRC - there are already 400,000 orders for the car ) - you don't need the dealerships to help drive more demand.
Dealerships aren't just about selling cars, what happens when they go wrong? in warranty or with Tesla even outside of warranty because I can't see your local garage sorting lots of the problems out.


Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Not-The-Messiah said:
Troubleatmill said:
If demand is much greater than supply ( IIRC - there are already 400,000 orders for the car ) - you don't need the dealerships to help drive more demand.
Dealerships aren't just about selling cars, what happens when they go wrong? in warranty or with Tesla even outside of warranty because I can't see your local garage sorting lots of the problems out.
I think in “Tesla speak”, dealerships are just shops. Many tend to be in shopping Malls. Not sure how they manage the maintenance and spare parts issues of which there have been many.

98elise

26,608 posts

161 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Exige77 said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Troubleatmill said:
If demand is much greater than supply ( IIRC - there are already 400,000 orders for the car ) - you don't need the dealerships to help drive more demand.
Dealerships aren't just about selling cars, what happens when they go wrong? in warranty or with Tesla even outside of warranty because I can't see your local garage sorting lots of the problems out.
I think in “Tesla speak”, dealerships are just shops. Many tend to be in shopping Malls. Not sure how they manage the maintenance and spare parts issues of which there have been many.
They have service centers. As an example there is a Tesla "showroom" in Bluewater shopping centre which is a shop unit. The service centre is about 5 miles away in the Thurrock industrial park.

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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98elise said:
Exige77 said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Troubleatmill said:
If demand is much greater than supply ( IIRC - there are already 400,000 orders for the car ) - you don't need the dealerships to help drive more demand.
Dealerships aren't just about selling cars, what happens when they go wrong? in warranty or with Tesla even outside of warranty because I can't see your local garage sorting lots of the problems out.
I think in “Tesla speak”, dealerships are just shops. Many tend to be in shopping Malls. Not sure how they manage the maintenance and spare parts issues of which there have been many.
They have service centers. As an example there is a Tesla "showroom" in Bluewater shopping centre which is a shop unit. The service centre is about 5 miles away in the Thurrock industrial park.
Thx, I imagined they would need some technical support somewhere.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Troubleatmill said:
If demand is much greater than supply ( IIRC - there are already 400,000 orders for the car ) - you don't need the dealerships to help drive more demand.
It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out.

Many other brands can be ordered on line but I wonder how many people do that?

How do you get answers to questions you might have, negotiate a trade in etc?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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REALIST123 said:
It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out.

Many other brands can be ordered on line but I wonder how many people do that?

How do you get answers to questions you might have, negotiate a trade in etc?
They'll still have contact people i assume who will deal with that, afik those were not in the stores anyhow. The stores were just about somewhere to view the cars.


Sixpackpert

4,559 posts

214 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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98elise said:
Exige77 said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Troubleatmill said:
If demand is much greater than supply ( IIRC - there are already 400,000 orders for the car ) - you don't need the dealerships to help drive more demand.
Dealerships aren't just about selling cars, what happens when they go wrong? in warranty or with Tesla even outside of warranty because I can't see your local garage sorting lots of the problems out.
I think in “Tesla speak”, dealerships are just shops. Many tend to be in shopping Malls. Not sure how they manage the maintenance and spare parts issues of which there have been many.
They have service centers. As an example there is a Tesla "showroom" in Bluewater shopping centre which is a shop unit. The service centre is about 5 miles away in the Thurrock industrial park.
Same at Cribbs, shop in the mall and service centre a mile down the road.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Amazon lost billions for years....
Long term......that's the win.


As a kid - when Argos came along - it hit me that this would impact traditional stores hard.


Tesla brand is known......
Customers are there.....

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Tesla have lost their first to market honeymoon period advantage and didn’t make it count.

Now all the big guys who have been sitting on the sidelines looking to see which way the wind is blowing are ramping up for the kill.

It’s going to be a tough time for Mr Musk.

otolith

56,144 posts

204 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Don’t really care - he’s already done his job of nudging the EV market out of dull but worthy and into cars like the Polestar and i-pace. 400bhp and sixty in under 5 seconds, and pushed EVs one might want to own into the mainstream. It would be a trickle of Leafs, Zoes and e-golfs otherwise.

ninepoint2

3,287 posts

160 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Slashing prices and closing physical branches does not seem to fit with a Company that is doing well or comfortable with it's current position. Then again I'm no economist..yes

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Exige77 said:
Tesla have lost their first to market honeymoon period advantage and didn’t make it count.

Now all the big guys who have been sitting on the sidelines looking to see which way the wind is blowing are ramping up for the kill.

It’s going to be a tough time for Mr Musk.
I'm interested in I where the big boy cars actually are still.



Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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otolith said:
Don’t really care - he’s already done his job of nudging the EV market out of dull but worthy and into cars like the Polestar and i-pace. 400bhp and sixty in under 5 seconds, and pushed EVs one might want to own into the mainstream. It would be a trickle of Leafs, Zoes and e-golfs otherwise.
His actual job was to bring a return to his many investors. He promised them a lot and they’re not all environmentalists.


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Exige77 said:
His actual job was to bring a return to his many investors. He promised them a lot and they’re not all environmentalists.
Teslas mission statement isnt secret, they are one of the most talked about companies in existence, if you dont know even that basic thing then you shouldn't have been investing.

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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RobDickinson said:
Exige77 said:
His actual job was to bring a return to his many investors. He promised them a lot and they’re not all environmentalists.
Teslas mission statement isnt secret, they are one of the most talked about companies in existence, if you dont know even that basic thing then you shouldn't have been investing.
They didn’t expect to lose all their money

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Who has?