45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

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Roofless Toothless

5,701 posts

133 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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The greatest speech over made on foreign soil by a President?

https://youtu.be/NaZ3onbUrew


Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

87 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Dunno, I've never looked beyond the swivel eyed conspiracy rubbish long enough to think about it. Wiki says he describes himself as a Libertarian & Paleoconservative, whatever one of those is. Everyone else thinks he's a nutter I reckon.

Byker28i

60,479 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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XM5ER said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
XM5ER said:
She's like a left wing Alex Jones.
Remarkable how the landscape has shifted when we describe Mensch as left wing in the context of her becoming a (unhinged) critic of Trump. Nut job yes, left wing?
I completely agree, the landscape is as odd as at any point in history. However if you look at her history, you can see that she flip flops around. That's not a bad thing in my opinion by the way, we should always be learning and prepared to change position. But some of the stuff she comes out with is absolutely in the extreme Alex Jones territory. By the way, what political position would you put Jones in, he was fervently anti-Bush. The left vs right descriptors really are inadequate.
Louise Mensch has a history of being right on a few things previously denounced, but I think in trying to stay that one step ahead she sometimes repeats things with the flimsiest of evidence, which even the Palmer Report doesn't. However it's just another source, much like the donalds twitter account is. How you interpret the sources is the real skill...



Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Eddie Strohacker said:
Dunno, I've never looked beyond the swivel eyed conspiracy rubbish long enough to think about it. Wiki says he describes himself as a Libertarian & Paleoconservative, whatever one of those is. Everyone else thinks he's a nutter I reckon.
A always associate the prefix "Paleo..." with fossils.

Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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minimoog

6,900 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Trump explains his stance on healthcare:


Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Can the mentally insane apply?

minimoog

6,900 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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He's a straight talker. Tells it like it is.

Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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In his head

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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I think the problem here is that the Whitehouse and capital hill have got bogged down with repealing obamacare.

This seems to be never ending at the moment. Really what Donald et al needs to be doing is making the US people rich again.

That's why they voted him in, the first none experienced politician, a business man no less, who could get people employed again making good money and feeling better off as a result.

But rather than draining the swamp it's bogging him down. He seems to be distracted easily, and lets face it there are a lot of distractions going his way. He needs to cast off replacing ACA, leave it to the split politicians to do that and instead alter taxes.

His reduction in corporate taxes makes sense, it is too high in the US. Of course $1 trillion infrastructure plans need funding too. What he needs to do is see if he can reduce corporate taxes to get US firms coming back to the US to fund his infrastructure and then look at health care.

The US armed forces will always suck up money of course. He has to get more money coming in through decisions than money going out.

It's a non trivial task to be honest. Needs FDR or such, this guy seems to pander to non events .....


Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Roofless Toothless said:
The greatest speech over made on foreign soil by a President?

https://youtu.be/NaZ3onbUrew
"I am a doughnut".

Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Gandahar said:
I think the problem here is that the Whitehouse and capital hill have got bogged down with repealing obamacare.

This seems to be never ending at the moment. Really what Donald et al needs to be doing is making the US people rich again.

That's why they voted him in, the first none experienced politician, a business man no less, who could get people employed again making good money and feeling better off as a result.

But rather than draining the swamp it's bogging him down. He seems to be distracted easily, and lets face it there are a lot of distractions going his way. He needs to cast off replacing ACA, leave it to the split politicians to do that and instead alter taxes.

His reduction in corporate taxes makes sense, it is too high in the US. Of course $1 trillion infrastructure plans need funding too. What he needs to do is see if he can reduce corporate taxes to get US firms coming back to the US to fund his infrastructure and then look at health care.

The US armed forces will always suck up money of course. He has to get more money coming in through decisions than money going out.

It's a non trivial task to be honest. Needs FDR or such, this guy seems to pander to non events .....
The problem is that he is completely unfitted for the task placed on him by those who voted for him. To any sensible person it was obvious that he has personalty and mental health problems which rendered him incapable for the job. Every ill advised utterance and tweet he makes proves that.

He is fixated with showing he is the biggest, best, most fantastic, a 100% winner. His favourite insult is to call people he doesn't like "losers" - because to him, that is the worst crime anybody can commit - i.e. to lose.

It is really ironic that a large faction of those who voted for him are, in fact, life's losers (not always through any fault of their own). To think that he really identified with their plight and would put through policies that might really help them showed how desperate they must have been.

It's all really quite sad - in the true sense of the word, rather than the Trump sense.




Byker28i

60,479 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Gandahar said:
But rather than draining the swamp it's bogging him down.
Not at all, he seems to be refilling it very quickly with his own brand of money grabbing

Gandahar said:
His reduction in corporate taxes makes sense, it is too high in the US. Of course $1 trillion infrastructure plans need funding too. What he needs to do is see if he can reduce corporate taxes to get US firms coming back to the US to fund his infrastructure and then look at health care.
Perhaps if he encouraged US companies to pay their taxes correctly rather than adopt extensive avoidance schemes.
The US Infrastructure is appalling after 5 years of republican refusal to vote through measures

The only thing the donald cares about is his ratings. He was playing with a firetruck when he should have been pushing the healthcare reforms.

unrepentant

21,285 posts

257 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Since becoming President Trump has;

Tweeted 991 times

Spent 40 days playing golf

Passed 0 pieces of major legislation

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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unrepentant said:
Since becoming President Trump has;

Tweeted 991 times

Spent 40 days playing golf

Passed 0 pieces of major legislation
He'll just blame the dems and folk will lap it up true or otherwise (probably otherwise).

minimoog

6,900 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Mueller has just announced he is going to investigate Trump and his associates' Russia-related financial dealings as part of his investigation.

Pass the popcorn...

Edited by minimoog on Thursday 20th July 16:05

Byker28i

60,479 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Meanwhile Exon have been fined for ignoring russian sanctions whilst Tillerson was CEO
When Tillerson was CEO, he said Exxon didn't support sanctions generally because it found them usually ineffective.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/20/treasury-...

minimoog

6,900 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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I'm opening a sweepstake on when Trump fires Mueller because he's getting too close to some inconvenient truths.

Who's in?

minimoog

6,900 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Meanwhile, a poll of 541 Trump voters has revealed that 88% of them would vote for him again were there to be another election now.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/342866-...

Stay classy America.

p1stonhead

25,616 posts

168 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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minimoog said:
Meanwhile, a poll of 541 Trump voters has revealed that 88% of them would vote for him again were there to be another election now.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/342866-...

Stay classy America.
So a 12% loss of his voters then.

I doubt he has gained any from the other side. I cant fathom a world where thats possible.

So he will get demolished next time? Hmm.
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