45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2
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Byker28i said:
BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS EMAILS?
Especially as we now learn that your glorious leader dictated Trump jr's response that the meeting with the russians was only about adoption, when we now know it wasn't. So the lies go all the way to the top
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dict...
As Da Mooch said - the fish rots from the head.Especially as we now learn that your glorious leader dictated Trump jr's response that the meeting with the russians was only about adoption, when we now know it wasn't. So the lies go all the way to the top
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dict...
Eric Mc said:
Byker28i said:
BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS EMAILS?
Especially as we now learn that your glorious leader dictated Trump jr's response that the meeting with the russians was only about adoption, when we now know it wasn't. So the lies go all the way to the top
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dict...
As Da Mooch said - the fish rots from the head.Especially as we now learn that your glorious leader dictated Trump jr's response that the meeting with the russians was only about adoption, when we now know it wasn't. So the lies go all the way to the top
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dict...
As some have said, his team are now directly in line for investigation by Mueller, which might be why the leaks are continuing
"If Trump's staff is already leaking this much about him directing people to lie, just wait until they're under oath before the grand jury."
https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/89218051...
"As we described couple was ago, every one on AF1 involved now likely exposed to Mueller probe - no exec privilege"
https://twitter.com/evanperez/status/8921827185948...
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/13/politics/white-h...
vonuber said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
4 resignations in a week, head of armed forces quits, EU leaders saying they backed the wrong candidate, policy mistakes, communication blunders, Francois Hollande associates saying it's "chaos" at the Elysee Palace, choreographed public appearances being ridiculed, reneging on policy promises, accusation of racial slurs, poll approval worst dive for a president in 20 years........mmmmmmmm OK.
What has this to do with Mr tango?RobDickinson said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Probably the most pointless post in the history of the internet - do you understand 'rhetorical', no don't.............
You are highly representative of the sad denizens of this thread though.
Still latching on to anything and everything that isn't the absolute cluster fYou are highly representative of the sad denizens of this thread though.
k of a mess in the white house? 
Nanook said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
At least Macron is making Trump look like a seasoned pro. at all this president type lark.
(Where is the Macron is a total disaster thread and corresponding saturation media coverage - it's almost as if there were obsessive bias, no, never.)
Your posts are so pathetic they're funny. Keep it up.(Where is the Macron is a total disaster thread and corresponding saturation media coverage - it's almost as if there were obsessive bias, no, never.)
Maybe a twitter feast together about how great America is again.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/03/do...
Michael Barnett said:
“I haven’t seen Trump lose any bit of support on the ground here. I hear people say he’s not presidential but it looks like he is beginning to redefine what it means to be presidential. He’s not going to take it lying down but he’s going stand up for himself and give it back.”
He added: “We believe, just as President Clinton said, it’s all about the economy. That’s what people care about most, not Russia or climate change, but things that affect them personally like putting food on the table. If Trump focuses on that, he’ll win again in 2020.
He added: “We believe, just as President Clinton said, it’s all about the economy. That’s what people care about most, not Russia or climate change, but things that affect them personally like putting food on the table. If Trump focuses on that, he’ll win again in 2020.
You seem to have fallen for the propaganda too.
Nothing Trump has done has had any significant effect on the economy so far.
In the meantime, Trump is continuing on his downward spiral of nepotistic mismanagement. Soon, all that will be left in the White House will be his inner clan (and Bannon). I reckon Kelly will leave before too long too.
Nothing Trump has done has had any significant effect on the economy so far.
In the meantime, Trump is continuing on his downward spiral of nepotistic mismanagement. Soon, all that will be left in the White House will be his inner clan (and Bannon). I reckon Kelly will leave before too long too.
Eric Mc said:
You seem to have fallen for the propaganda too.
Nothing Trump has done has had any significant effect on the economy so far.
In the meantime, Trump is continuing on his downward spiral of nepotistic mismanagement. Soon, all that will be left in the White House will be his inner clan (and Bannon). I reckon Kelly will leave before too long too.
You think? The seeds may have been sown by Obama, and have been watered by the expectation that Trump will do "something" (massively lower corporate tax to start with), but the economy is ticking along. Whether a destabilising effect from his completely dysfunctional administration will undermine this remains to be seen.Nothing Trump has done has had any significant effect on the economy so far.
In the meantime, Trump is continuing on his downward spiral of nepotistic mismanagement. Soon, all that will be left in the White House will be his inner clan (and Bannon). I reckon Kelly will leave before too long too.
Edited by RBH58 on Tuesday 1st August 13:21
RBH58 said:
You think? The seeds may have been sown buy Obama, and watered by the expectation that Trump will do "something" (massively lower corporate tax to start with) so the economy is ticking along. Whether a destabilising effect from his completely dysfunctional administration will undermine this remains to be seen.
Of course. It's early days. But the lack of control or care at the helm is bound to result in some sort of catastrophe. So far, we have had a string of "internal catastrophes" as the administration blunders along desperately trying to bluff and lie its way out of the numerous issues that afflict it.The real test will be when something major blows up on the international scene - either of a military or an economic nature.
There pathetic and amateurish efforts so far indicate to me that whatever they have to face, it will be dealt with in a completely shambolic fashion.
Eric Mc said:
Of course. It's early days. But the lack of control or care at the helm is bound to result in some sort of catastrophe. So far, we have had a string of "internal catastrophes" as the administration blunders along desperately trying to bluff and lie its way out of the numerous issues that afflict it.
The real test will be when something major blows up on the international scene - either of a military or an economic nature.
There pathetic and amateurish efforts so far indicate to me that whatever they have to face, it will be dealt with in a completely shambolic fashion.
Oh....I think Trump's biggest fThe real test will be when something major blows up on the international scene - either of a military or an economic nature.
There pathetic and amateurish efforts so far indicate to me that whatever they have to face, it will be dealt with in a completely shambolic fashion.
k up is yet to come. Let's hope there is a planet left afterwards!Eric Mc said:
You seem to have fallen for the propaganda too.
Give it a rest Eric. i despise Trump as much as anybody else. I'm just trying to show how he will convince his supporters that he's bigly greatEric Mc said:
Nothing Trump has done has had any significant effect on the economy so far.
Yes, I know. That's obvious to most people with two brain cells. However that doesn't necessarily include many of his supporters. All he needs to do is keep tweeting about the stock market, and jobs, and fake news. If any of his supporters were inclined to think rationally the first question they'd be asking is how did 42% unemployment (as he suggested before the election) suddenly turn into 4%....Eric Mc said:
In the meantime, Trump is continuing on his downward spiral of nepotistic mismanagement. Soon, all that will be left in the White House will be his inner clan (and Bannon). I reckon Kelly will leave before too long too.
And he will simply spin that into a "Positive". It will be some bu11 about being a hard taskmaster, about demanding the best for the US people, about not putting up with failure, about getting things done, about Making America Great Again. It will be trite, meaningless, and probably untrue. But that's exactly what has managed to get him elected.RBH58 said:
Eric Mc said:
Of course. It's early days. But the lack of control or care at the helm is bound to result in some sort of catastrophe. So far, we have had a string of "internal catastrophes" as the administration blunders along desperately trying to bluff and lie its way out of the numerous issues that afflict it.
The real test will be when something major blows up on the international scene - either of a military or an economic nature.
There pathetic and amateurish efforts so far indicate to me that whatever they have to face, it will be dealt with in a completely shambolic fashion.
Oh....I think Trump's biggest fThe real test will be when something major blows up on the international scene - either of a military or an economic nature.
There pathetic and amateurish efforts so far indicate to me that whatever they have to face, it will be dealt with in a completely shambolic fashion.
k up is yet to come. Let's hope there is a planet left afterwards!Countdown said:
Eric Mc said:
You seem to have fallen for the propaganda too.
Give it a rest Eric. i despise Trump as much as anybody else. I'm just trying to show how he will convince his supporters that he's bigly greatEric Mc said:
Nothing Trump has done has had any significant effect on the economy so far.
Yes, I know. That's obvious to most people with two brain cells. However that doesn't necessarily include many of his supporters. All he needs to do is keep tweeting about the stock market, and jobs, and fake news. If any of his supporters were inclined to think rationally the first question they'd be asking is how did 42% unemployment (as he suggested before the election) suddenly turn into 4%....Eric Mc said:
In the meantime, Trump is continuing on his downward spiral of nepotistic mismanagement. Soon, all that will be left in the White House will be his inner clan (and Bannon). I reckon Kelly will leave before too long too.
And he will simply spin that into a "Positive". It will be some bu11 about being a hard taskmaster, about demanding the best for the US people, about not putting up with failure, about getting things done, about Making America Great Again. It will be trite, meaningless, and probably untrue. But that's exactly what has managed to get him elected.I'm not as pessimistic as you. I think the organs of state are quite powerful - but relatively slow moving. Trumps' behaviour so far is demonstrative of a meglomaniacal tendency that is bound to undo him eventually.
I still think he will be gone before the next election.
And please don't tell me to "give it a rest". This is a discussion forum and we are allowed discuss. By all means disagree with me - but don't tell me to shut up.
Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 1st August 13:41
RBH58 said:
Eric Mc said:
Of course. It's early days. But the lack of control or care at the helm is bound to result in some sort of catastrophe. So far, we have had a string of "internal catastrophes" as the administration blunders along desperately trying to bluff and lie its way out of the numerous issues that afflict it.
The real test will be when something major blows up on the international scene - either of a military or an economic nature.
There pathetic and amateurish efforts so far indicate to me that whatever they have to face, it will be dealt with in a completely shambolic fashion.
Oh....I think Trump's biggest fThe real test will be when something major blows up on the international scene - either of a military or an economic nature.
There pathetic and amateurish efforts so far indicate to me that whatever they have to face, it will be dealt with in a completely shambolic fashion.
k up is yet to come. Let's hope there is a planet left afterwards!When he got elected I thought well maybe hoped would be a truer appraisal that we'd see a new mature worldly wise individual. Well I got that spectacularly wrong.
Eric Mc said:
Countdown said:
Eric Mc said:
You seem to have fallen for the propaganda too.
Give it a rest Eric. i despise Trump as much as anybody else. I'm just trying to show how he will convince his supporters that he's bigly greatEric Mc said:
Nothing Trump has done has had any significant effect on the economy so far.
Yes, I know. That's obvious to most people with two brain cells. However that doesn't necessarily include many of his supporters. All he needs to do is keep tweeting about the stock market, and jobs, and fake news. If any of his supporters were inclined to think rationally the first question they'd be asking is how did 42% unemployment (as he suggested before the election) suddenly turn into 4%....Eric Mc said:
In the meantime, Trump is continuing on his downward spiral of nepotistic mismanagement. Soon, all that will be left in the White House will be his inner clan (and Bannon). I reckon Kelly will leave before too long too.
And he will simply spin that into a "Positive". It will be some bu11 about being a hard taskmaster, about demanding the best for the US people, about not putting up with failure, about getting things done, about Making America Great Again. It will be trite, meaningless, and probably untrue. But that's exactly what has managed to get him elected.I'm not as pessimistic as you. I think the organs of state are quite powerful - but relatively slow moving. Trumps' behaviour so far is demonstrative of a meglomaniacal tendency that is bound to undo him eventually.
I still think he will be gone before the next election.
And please don't tell me to "give it a rest". This is a discussion forum and we are allowed discuss. By all means disagree with me - but don't tell me to shut up.
Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 1st August 13:41
In his supporters eyes anything good that happens is down to him, and anything bad is down to someone else. Simple simple simple.
minimoog said:
Good article and mirrors my thoughts. Absurd as the whole show is to any normal viewers outside the US, I don't think his core voters care that much.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff