Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8

[technodup]

Strocky said:

Are you in favour of a 2 child limit on child benefits?

I've not been following this rape clause stuff because instinctively it sounds like bks but I'm in favour of a zero child limit.

[r11co]

Strocky said:

Let's review the timeline, Sturgeon calls out the DWP in the states, Glenn Campbell tweets but doesn't report it on that nights Reporting Scotland, wee Ruth hides under the covers for a couple of days, then issues a statement via a spokesperson, disappears off Twitter/TV for another couple of days before she comes up with the hypocrisy angle and suddenly appears acting like a puffed up Yorkshire Terrier on Reporting Scotland for an interview who finally acknowledge the political fall-out.

I mentioned in an earlier post how SNats have perfected the art of conflating unrelated and irrelevant events to construct a false narrative to underpin their soundbite bullst which they then repeat ad-nauseum as if proved unequivocal.

You've just presented a cast-iron example. Bottom line hasn't changed. If ScotGov don't want to implement the reforms they can choose not to. At the moment they appear to be choosing to go ahead while creating a squirrel designed to make it look like an opposition politician who has no power to implement the required changes is at fault. Deft but immoral (I'm not talking about the policy itself being immoral as that is a separate argument - I mean the deliberate act to mislead the electorate as to who is responsible for the changes IN SCOTLAND).

Strocky said:

Regarding mitigating it, all that means is the Scottish Tax payer has to pay twice for an ill thought out piece of civil service beuacracy.

Them's the breaks. If SNP/SNats want 'socialist' policies they have to be paid for. Copying rUK and then blaming rUK because not doing so costs more is a completely moribund argument to anyone with half a braincell, but then the message is designed to appeal to exactly the sort of person that lacks that level of intellect.

Not forgetting of course that duplicating pretty much the entire bureaucratic operation of the UK (with associated costs) is a fundamental requirement of Scottish independence.

Edited by r11co on Sunday 23 April 10:48

[Strocky]

r11co said:

Them's the breaks. If SNP/SNats want 'socialist' policies they have to be paid for. Copying rUK and then blaming rUK because not doing so costs more is a completely moribund argument to anyone with half a braincell, but then the message is designed to appeal to exactly the sort of person that lacks that level of intellect.

Not forgetting of course that duplicating pretty much the entire bureaucratic operation of the UK (with associated costs) is a fundamental requirement of Scottish independence.

Edited by r11co on Sunday 23 April 10:34

Why can't you answer a simple question on here?

What are you scared of?

That you're wee Tory pals on here will point and laugh at you for being lefty lentil eating sandal wearing lefty for criticising even one policy

[Alpacaman]

Strocky said:

Alpacaman said:

To me this is the SNP dragging politics to it's lowest possible level. To try and totally misrepresent a policy and use it as a personal attack against someone, particularly with something as vile as rape, is one of the most disgusting things a political party can do, but then it's all about distracting people from their crap record and their supporters are too dim to look any further than the headlines.

And others will simply not countenance any criticism of their particular horse in the race

Pot kettle

If you want to attack a political party about a policy you do not agree with that is one thing.

If you select a small part of a policy, totally misrepresent what it is about, deliberately mention "rape" for no reason other than to stir up hatred and then directly attack one person about it, that is something totally different. Particularly when the leader of the SNP claimed to want people to be treated with respect, but then Pete Wishart proved that was bks within a week.

[r11co]

Strocky said:

Why can't you answer a simple question on here?

Because the question posed has got nothing to do with the point being made. SNP are deliberately misleading the electorate (as they did at the last General Election when their activists made false pronouncements about the parliamentary voting histories of cerain candidates so they could brand them as 'Red Tories'.)

This is just another example, but this time they are talking about policies that THEY HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE.

Strocky said:

That you're wee Tory pals on here will point and laugh at you for being lefty lentil eating sandal wearing lefty for criticising even one policy

Here we go again. I've told you before that my politics at the moment are 'anything but the SNP', and it seems that since I first told you that a couple of years ago it has actually become a thing.

[technodup]

Strocky said:

That you're wee Tory pals on here will point and laugh at you for being lefty lentil eating sandal wearing lefty for criticising even one policy

Hardly, we're too busy laughing at you.

[Strocky]

Touching on my earlier posts re Holyrood voting system

[FN2TypeR]

r11co said:

Here we go again. I've told you before that my politics at the moment are 'anything but the SNP', and it seems that since I first told you that a couple of years ago it has actually become a thing.

They were out and about in central Aberdeen a couple of weekends ago, just off of Union Street, t'was the first time I had seen them out canvassing and they had a surprisingly large group of people speaking to folk.

[r11co]

Strocky said:

Touching on my earlier posts re Holyrood voting system.

And then 2011 happened.

As I said, everyone at the time agreed that co-alitions were the way to go, citing the proportional representation systems used in European states post-fall of the USSR and unification of Germany as good practice.

Hilarious picture of Mike Russell (the true architect of the decline and fall of the Scottish education system, incidentally) in that cutting.

[FN2TypeR]

r11co said:

And then 2011 happened.

As I said, everyone at the time agreed that co-alitions were the way to go, citing the proportional representation systems used in European states post-fall of the USSR and unification of Germany as good practice.

Hilarious picture of Mike Russell (the true architect of the decline and fall of the Scottish education system, incidentally) in that cutting.

It won't happen again either.

[Sylvaforever]

Beats being a flat earther

[jsc15]

Betfair seem to have a very low opinion of Calum Kerr's constituency

Edited by jsc15 on Sunday 23 April 19:27

[FN2TypeR]

That's Betfair Exchange though, so the prices are set by punters betting against each other/offering odds themselves.

Regardless, I would piss my pants if he was ousted. I reckon that all bets are off in the generally unionist border areas, the SNP are in for a hiding courtesy of Team May/Davidson.

[jsc15]

FN2TypeR said:

That's Betfair Exchange though, so the prices are set by punters betting against each other/offering odds themselves.

Regardless, I would piss my pants if he was ousted. I reckon that all bets are off in the generally unionist border areas, the SNP are in for a hiding courtesy of Team May/Davidson.

Yep, I'm hoping he loses but I was having a chortle at what they've called the constituency.

Looks like I'll need to get a few markets up and running by myself, 1.01 on the SNP to start with

[FN2TypeR]

jsc15 said:

FN2TypeR said:

That's Betfair Exchange though, so the prices are set by punters betting against each other/offering odds themselves.

Regardless, I would piss my pants if he was ousted. I reckon that all bets are off in the generally unionist border areas, the SNP are in for a hiding courtesy of Team May/Davidson.

Yep, I'm hoping he loses but I was having a chortle at what they've called the constituency.

Looks like I'll need to get a few markets up and running by myself, 1.01 on the SNP to start with

I appear to be blind - I hadn't noticed that, sorry!

[Sylvaforever]

Sub-human eh. First Second political movement to use that term...

[A.J.M]

That's that friendly all welcoming civic nationalism right there.

I think we will see a few story MPs, not sure on 12 but I do think that there will be a few.
Ruth has been doing a good job of opposition and more people are coming to her side.

[amusingduck]

Sylvaforever said:

Sub-human eh. First Second political movement to use that term...

Bloody Tories. Raping the disabled lodgers, stealing their mobility car and driving them to dignitas.

[technodup]

Quite angry isn't he? You'd almost think he's a bit worried Saint Nicola's crown is about to fall off. Wee Ginger Dug was at it as well with 'DTBs' (dirty Tory bds).

You say that kind of thing against ANY other group in society and you'd be castigated for it. It seems in the 'best wee country in the world' pretty much anyone is welcome, except if you happen to believe in low taxes, the individual over the state and spending within your means.

Although frankly I'd question the Tories' commitment to the above these days.

[NoNeed]

I have said it before and I will say it again, the Asnats talk about tories the way German Nazi's talked about Jews, and given the opportunity, there would be plenty of SNP volunteers to man the gas chambers.


A vote for the Scottish Nazi's is as bad as a vote for Hitler.