Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8
Discussion
Strocky said:
A fair point if you are pooling every Labour & Lib Dem vote as an Unionist
It's like saying you won a game of football on corners despite being beat 2-1
It was a high scoring game but I think you will find the final score was 55 - 45 to the Unionists, sadly for you doesn't look like there is going to be a replay any time soon.It's like saying you won a game of football on corners despite being beat 2-1
simoid said:
The SNP have, lest we forget, never won a majority of Scottish votes in any national election.
Your beginning to sound like Derek Johnstone complaing about Nakamura cheating at Free Kicks That bloody SNP getting more votes than the 2nd biggest party in Scotland home and away because they're cheating
However you hold onto your comfort blanket whilst the Scots Gov remains in power since 2007 and has been sending a majority of Scots MP's to WM since 2015
Strocky said:
simoid said:
The SNP have, lest we forget, never won a majority of Scottish votes in any national election.
Your beginning to sound like Derek Johnstone complaing about Nakamura cheating at Free Kicks That bloody SNP getting more votes than the 2nd biggest party in Scotland home and away because they're cheating
However you hold onto your comfort blanket whilst the Scots Gov remains in power since 2007 and has been sending a majority of Scots MP's to WM since 2015
The point is that people are turning away from the SNP when they need to be convincing more people that they’re worthy of support if they’re ever going to have a chance of a referendum.
Strocky said:
Your beginning to sound like Derek Johnstone complaing about Nakamura cheating at Free Kicks
That bloody SNP getting more votes than the 2nd biggest party in Scotland home and away because they're cheating
However you hold onto your comfort blanket whilst the Scots Gov remains in power since 2007 and has been sending a majority of Scots MP's to WM since 2015
I'm no fan of independence, or the SNP, but I do have a great deal of respect for wee Nicola, for single-handedly keeping labour out of Downing Street. Credit where it's due, and all that.That bloody SNP getting more votes than the 2nd biggest party in Scotland home and away because they're cheating
However you hold onto your comfort blanket whilst the Scots Gov remains in power since 2007 and has been sending a majority of Scots MP's to WM since 2015
hutchst said:
I'm no fan of independence, or the SNP, but I do have a great deal of respect for wee Nicola, for single-handedly keeping labour out of Downing Street. Credit where it's due, and all that.
Massive backhanded compliment! 
Strocky said:
However you hold onto your comfort blanket whilst the Scots Gov remains in power since 2007 and has been sending a majority of Scots MP's to WM since 2015
Interesting Freudian Slip - how you referred to Scots Gov rather than SNP as if there is a sense of entitlement there! Wasn't that what did it in for the Labour party in Scotland - complacency due to assumption they would be in power in perpetuity in Scotland?Also the 2015 stat is hardly something to crow about - three years?! Plus you overlook how badly they fell from that high-water mark within the space of two.
There's the rub - the SNP will fall from power as quickly as they got there if they cannot find a secondary reason for people to vote for them while Indyref is effectively off the table (which it is thanks to Nicola's totally confused message over her reasons for having one - the EU hokey cokey).
hutchst said:
Strocky said:
Your beginning to sound like Derek Johnstone complaing about Nakamura cheating at Free Kicks
That bloody SNP getting more votes than the 2nd biggest party in Scotland home and away because they're cheating
However you hold onto your comfort blanket whilst the Scots Gov remains in power since 2007 and has been sending a majority of Scots MP's to WM since 2015
I'm no fan of independence, or the SNP, but I do have a great deal of respect for wee Nicola, for single-handedly keeping labour out of Downing Street. Credit where it's due, and all that.That bloody SNP getting more votes than the 2nd biggest party in Scotland home and away because they're cheating
However you hold onto your comfort blanket whilst the Scots Gov remains in power since 2007 and has been sending a majority of Scots MP's to WM since 2015
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-par...
So how is it "democratic" that a minority party can wield such influence as to remove the cornerstone of our defence?
No doubt strocky will be gleeful, however it only takes a moments reading on the news, note any news outlet, and the influence of Russian agents throughout western Europe is obvious. And those are just the numb nut fall guys.....and the blessed Nicola has just got into bed with the biggest sympathiser of them all...
Kccv23highliftcam said:
No doubt strocky will be gleeful, however it only takes a moments reading on the news, note any news outlet, and the influence of Russian agents throughout western Europe is obvious. And those are just the numb nut fall guys.....and the blessed Nicola has just got into bed with the biggest sympathiser of them all...
But we're just daft wee Scotland, everyone's best mucker. We don't have enemies like those empire building English b
ds.SNP 'governance' takes a cynical and very sinister turn.
SNP cut TV feed from conference after argument.
(If you want to read the whole article clear any associated cookies or open the page in a incognito/private browsing window).
Derek MacKay is obviously unqualified to do his job, but it seems he gets by by shortcutting process, breaking rules and abusing his power, and that's before we consider the obvious issue of the party suppressing embarrassing information which they have now established a record of doing.
OK Strocky and the the Bandit - let's hear your take on this, without resorting to meaningless one-liners or whitabootery.
SNP cut TV feed from conference after argument.
(If you want to read the whole article clear any associated cookies or open the page in a incognito/private browsing window).
Derek MacKay is obviously unqualified to do his job, but it seems he gets by by shortcutting process, breaking rules and abusing his power, and that's before we consider the obvious issue of the party suppressing embarrassing information which they have now established a record of doing.
OK Strocky and the the Bandit - let's hear your take on this, without resorting to meaningless one-liners or whitabootery.
Actually it's interesting how the sheeple seem to enjoy being treated in such an offhand way.....I'm sure there's a ?psychologist somewhere who could examine the pack mentality and their seeming need to be abused in this way..
Anyway police Scotland have been busy..the official maybe list of banned flags in Scotland...
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16897189.revea...
Probably best to follow previous advice over web browser setting, you never know these days in Scotland...
..SNP met Cambridge Analytica before election
... http//www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politi...
?A psychologist studies normal and abnormal mental states from cognitive, emotional, and social processes and behavior by observing, interpreting, and recording how individuals relate to one another and to their environments.
Anyway police Scotland have been busy..the official maybe list of banned flags in Scotland...
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16897189.revea...
Probably best to follow previous advice over web browser setting, you never know these days in Scotland...
..SNP met Cambridge Analytica before election
... http//www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politi...
?A psychologist studies normal and abnormal mental states from cognitive, emotional, and social processes and behavior by observing, interpreting, and recording how individuals relate to one another and to their environments.
Edited by Kccv23highliftcam on Monday 8th October 11:10
Nanook said:
Nicola was on R4 this morning, being embarrassed by Nick Robinson.
Clueless.
Gary Robertson on Radio Scotland did the same without even trying. He just put a series of straightforward questions to her that highlighted contradictions between SNP policy and what SNP representatives are publicly saying (specifically Joanne Cherry and Blackford going way-off message), and cited official stats on NHS waiting times and such that objectively exposed the SNP government as failing to achieve their targets. Nicola's responses were punctuated with pauses and mis-steps as she had prepared the wrong set of soundbite answers and didn't have replies for the questions put.Clueless.
It is becoming even more apparent that her priorities and those of Scotland are diverging, and 'independence is the answer to everything' is wearing out as a response.
Edited by r11co on Monday 8th October 12:43
Did anyone see their party political broadcast?
I suppose maybe the intention was for people like me to take the bait, but it actually made me angry. The idea seemed to be that if we can’t argue against our opponents with logic, we’ll just ostracise them in society and make them look like billy-no-mates instead. TBH it smacked of desperation from a party who knows that the public is getting increasingly impatient with their domestic record.
Also, at least two of the policies attributed to them aren’t their policies, but are ones they seem to manage to take credit for!
I’ve got to hand it to them though, as a piece of propaganda Putin would be proud!
I suppose maybe the intention was for people like me to take the bait, but it actually made me angry. The idea seemed to be that if we can’t argue against our opponents with logic, we’ll just ostracise them in society and make them look like billy-no-mates instead. TBH it smacked of desperation from a party who knows that the public is getting increasingly impatient with their domestic record.
Also, at least two of the policies attributed to them aren’t their policies, but are ones they seem to manage to take credit for!
I’ve got to hand it to them though, as a piece of propaganda Putin would be proud!
gofasterrosssco said:
Anyone else think the SNP conference hall sign seems massively over-compensating, and slightly Orwellian..? 
Well, the SNP are exponents of doublethink.European Union - good. Union of the United Kingdom - bad.
Second referendum following Brexit negotiations - required. Second referendum following negotiations over a potential split from the UK - not required.
Tory Increased spending = austerity. SNP cuts = an increase in real terms.
Oh, and then of course there was the blatant lie regarding Richard Leonard's Brexit stance, but the Nats have always been strangers to the truth.
Edited by r11co on Tuesday 9th October 10:11
Many Conservative voters in England think the Union is worth sacrificing for Brexit so the Scottish independence activists are not alone:
https://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/poll-unionists-wo...
https://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/poll-unionists-wo...
B210bandit said:
Many Conservative voters in England think the Union is worth sacrificing for Brexit so the Scottish independence activists are not alone:
https://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/poll-unionists-wo...
Meaningless poll as is any poll asking opinion about post-Brexit scenarios. It is easy to dismiss this one as it is predicated on those being asked the question believing the SNP narrative that Scotland wants to remain in the EU.https://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/poll-unionists-wo...
Seeing as you're here, how about answering my point above about Derek MacKay bullying one of his own party members who dared point out he was breaching party rules, all the while the cameras were switched off so the watching world wouldn't see it.
Edited by r11co on Tuesday 9th October 14:13
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