Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8

[ianrb]

Strocky said:

Scotland’s top judge says UK Gov can’t go to Supreme Court to block European judges deciding if Brexit can be halted unilaterally by the UK.

https://twitter.com/BBCandrewkerr/status/106049702...

But UK Supreme Court is still a superior court to Scotland's (in a legal sense), so Scotlands top judge came be overruled by UK's Supreme Court.

[Strocky]

A.J.M said:

We are still leaving the EU.

I can’t wait to see the fk up NHS Scotland are going to make of where to stick the Monklands hospital replacement.

Burger seems to have gone quiet after his team showered themselves in glory....

It's going to Gartcosh (even Labour agreed to this until the recent by-election)

At least it should be open at night unlike elsewhere
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40385343

[gofasterrosssco]

Strocky said:

Scotland’s top judge says UK Gov can’t go to Supreme Court to block European judges deciding if Brexit can be halted unilaterally by the UK.

https://twitter.com/BBCandrewkerr/status/106049702...

When democracy gets in your way, just over rule it!

[gofasterrosssco]

Strocky said:

A.J.M said:

We are still leaving the EU.

I can’t wait to see the fk up NHS Scotland are going to make of where to stick the Monklands hospital replacement.

Burger seems to have gone quiet after his team showered themselves in glory....

It's going to Gartcosh (even Labour agreed to this until the recent by-election)

At least it should be open at night unlike elsewhere
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40385343

We'll see how long that lasts I suppose...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-po...

[A.J.M]

Strocky said:

A.J.M said:

We are still leaving the EU.

I can’t wait to see the fk up NHS Scotland are going to make of where to stick the Monklands hospital replacement.

Burger seems to have gone quiet after his team showered themselves in glory....

It's going to Gartcosh (even Labour agreed to this until the recent by-election)

At least it should be open at night unlike elsewhere
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40385343

Hence my statement of it being a fk up. Thank you for pointing it out.

It’s best location is it’s current location!
It will only be moved so someone can make a fortune from selling the land to housing companies.

[Cobnapint]

ianrb said:

But UK Supreme Court is still a superior court to Scotland's (in a legal sense), so Scotlands top judge came be overruled by UK's Supreme Court.

Exactly. WTF has is got to do with Scotland's 'top judge', or Wales's, or Norn Iron's?

[Strocky]

ianrb said:

But UK Supreme Court is still a superior court to Scotland's (in a legal sense), so Scotlands top judge came be overruled by UK's Supreme Court.

We're still in the EU, hence it's being referred to the European Court of Human Rights in Luxembourg

[Strocky]

gofasterrosssco said:

When democracy gets in your way, just over rule it!

Yep because that's how the judiciary works

[Strocky]

A.J.M said:

Hence my statement of it being a fk up. Thank you for pointing it out.

It’s best location is it’s current location!
It will only be moved so someone can make a fortune from selling the land to housing companies.

Monkland's is a st hole with no room for further expansion, limited car parking spaces and no direct motorway links
It's a dinosaur from the 70's that should be shut down

The money for housing would go towards the new hospital build given the Scottish NHS own the land

Edited by Strocky on Thursday 8th November 12:41

[A.J.M]

Strocky said:

A.J.M said:

Hence my statement of it being a fk up. Thank you for pointing it out.

It’s best location is it’s current location!
It will only be moved so someone can make a fortune from selling the land to housing companies.

Monkland's is a st hole with no room for further expansion, limited car parking spaces and no direct motorway links
It's a dinosaur from the 70's that should be shut down

The money for housing would go towards the new hospital build given the Scottish NHS own the land

Edited by Strocky on Thursday 8th November 12:41

None of the hospitals in North Lanarkshire have direct motorway links. Wishaw isn’t on a motorway network either and has limited parking spaces. Just in case you missed that blatantly obvious point.

Monklands is needed where it is for serving Airdrie, Coatbridge and surrounding areas.
Not everyone in the area drives but bus and train routes exist for it, as well as it being affordable for taxis.

Which basically guarantees it will be moved to somewhere out in the middle of nowhere.

[Strocky]

A.J.M said:

None of the hospitals in North Lanarkshire have direct motorway links. Wishaw isn’t on a motorway network either and has limited parking spaces. Just in case you missed that blatantly obvious point.

Monklands is needed where it is for serving Airdrie, Coatbridge and surrounding areas.
Not everyone in the area drives but bus and train routes exist for it, as well as it being affordable for taxis.

Which basically guarantees it will be moved to somewhere out in the middle of nowhere.

The obvious point is that Monklands (being smack in the middle of a housing scheme) has no room for expansion
Monklands covers more than just Coatbridge & Airdrie

These things aren't just done on the hoof, there will be feasibility studies done etc, see link below

http://labourhame.com/another-view-on-monklands-ho...

[technodup]

Strocky said:

The obvious point is that Monklands (being smack in the middle of a housing scheme) has no room for expansion
Monklands covers more than just Coatbridge & Airdrie

These things aren't just done on the hoof, there will be feasibility studies done etc, see link below

http://labourhame.com/another-view-on-monklands-ho...

Are their any SNP policies you disagree with? Or have no view on?

I don't live in Airdrie so have no view on the hospital. Neither do I live in the highlands or have any strong view on windfarms or power lines. But it seems whatever the issue, wherever it lies, you dive in with your ubernat 3000 pish, complete with hastily sourced link to make your case.

[Strocky]

technodup said:

re their any SNP policies you disagree with? Or have no view on?

I don't live in Airdrie so have no view on the hospital. Neither do I live in the highlands or have any strong view on windfarms or power lines. But it seems whatever the issue, wherever it lies, you dive in with your ubernat 3000 pish, complete with hastily sourced link to make your case.

I could offer the same argument in reverse to your good self
In fact you where so quick to jump in with the ad hom, you missed the fact that the link was from that well know nat website, Labourhame

I disagreed with the OBFA, have criticised the Gov on giving Police Scotland too much leeway and wish they where tougher on land reform

And unlike you I have first hand experience of Monklands as a patient. My view might be soured by the fact my Granda died there (not helped by some poor care)

I'd like to think that planning and building technology has advanced since the 1970's

[Strocky]

Nanook said:

I've been in Monklands once or twice.

Was better than the RAH.

Another old building, the Childrens Ward there is getting closed down
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-wes...

[technodup]

Strocky said:

I could offer the same argument in reverse to your good self

How could you? What party or cause do I promote endlessly?

I'm a 'Tory' who doesn't much like anything the Tories are doing ffs. But still the least bad option.

[ElectricSoup]

Strocky said:

ianrb said:

But UK Supreme Court is still a superior court to Scotland's (in a legal sense), so Scotlands top judge came be overruled by UK's Supreme Court.

We're still in the EU, hence it's being referred to the European Court of Human Rights in Luxembourg

No it isn't. This is the court in question:

https://europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/institut...

[technodup]

Not like him to misunderstand...

[gofasterrosssco]

Strocky said:

technodup said:

re their any SNP policies you disagree with? Or have no view on?

I don't live in Airdrie so have no view on the hospital. Neither do I live in the highlands or have any strong view on windfarms or power lines. But it seems whatever the issue, wherever it lies, you dive in with your ubernat 3000 pish, complete with hastily sourced link to make your case.

I could offer the same argument in reverse to your good self
In fact you where so quick to jump in with the ad hom, you missed the fact that the link was from that well know nat website, Labourhame

I disagreed with the OBFA, have criticised the Gov on giving Police Scotland too much leeway and wish they where tougher on land reform

And unlike you I have first hand experience of Monklands as a patient. My view might be soured by the fact my Granda died there (not helped by some poor care)

I'd like to think that planning and building technology has advanced since the 1970's

As an Airdrieonian (who now lives up north) I'm obviously biased to the current location, and have been there a lot recently. They opened a cancer centre there only a few years, plus various other investment in newer facilities, but cannot argue that the original main building are inefficient and showing their age (single glassing anyone..).

There's a main-line station right next to Monklands (Coatdyke) and I'm sure you'll know is only about 10mins off the M8, so not exactly middle of nowhere. A pretty urbanised location, but as noted above, many of the people it serves will use public transport to it. I'd also bet its probably the biggest employer in Airdrie by some margin!

[hidetheelephants]

Nanook said:

I've been in Monklands once or twice.

Was better than the RAH.

RAH; ancient buildings, crap site, crap access. There's not much good about it other than the staff.

[technodup]

hidetheelephants said:

Nanook said:

I've been in Monklands once or twice.

Was better than the RAH.

RAH; ancient buildings, crap site, crap access. There's not much good about it other than the staff.

It's got a pool though. I know this because I'm supposed to use it and the Victoria doesn't have one.