Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8
Discussion
glazbagun said:
Doesn't strike me as any more disrespectful than saying someones numbers don't add up or any of the other ways politicians have of saying "I disagree".
Nothing in your desperate post is true.Or if you prefer: I see your point of view but I’m afraid I don’t share it.
Seems more than a bit different
NoddyonNitrous said:
Can you expand a bit on that statement?
In neolithic times Orkney was a more advanced civilisation than south, partly due to a warmer climate in those days, but I don't see it being a more fruitful region in modern times. Is it oil you mean? Wind? waves? We need the extra energy just to keep lit and warm!
I simply mean it has more natural resources available to it like land, a vast supply of fresh water and fisheries, if the EU don't pinch it. England is a lot more limited in natural resources (but not in terms of economic productivity e.g. the City of London.)In neolithic times Orkney was a more advanced civilisation than south, partly due to a warmer climate in those days, but I don't see it being a more fruitful region in modern times. Is it oil you mean? Wind? waves? We need the extra energy just to keep lit and warm!
B210bandit said:
NoddyonNitrous said:
Can you expand a bit on that statement?
In neolithic times Orkney was a more advanced civilisation than south, partly due to a warmer climate in those days, but I don't see it being a more fruitful region in modern times. Is it oil you mean? Wind? waves? We need the extra energy just to keep lit and warm!
I simply mean it has more natural resources available to it like land, a vast supply of fresh water and fisheries, if the EU don't pinch it. England is a lot more limited in natural resources (but not in terms of economic productivity e.g. the City of London.)In neolithic times Orkney was a more advanced civilisation than south, partly due to a warmer climate in those days, but I don't see it being a more fruitful region in modern times. Is it oil you mean? Wind? waves? We need the extra energy just to keep lit and warm!
I know. And now the EU know how easily Britain caved in over Gibraltar they will have the country on the run when it comes to future trade deals and conditions attached to them. Can't believe how little spine the British government have shown. You grown up with all these stories of quiet determination and instead it's all b
ks. Just a bunch of gutless twerps who will sell granny at first opportunity.
ks. Just a bunch of gutless twerps who will sell granny at first opportunity.B210bandit said:
I know. And now the EU know how easily Britain caved in over Gibraltar they will have the country on the run when it comes to future trade deals and conditions attached to them. Can't believe how little spine the British government have shown. You grown up with all these stories of quiet determination and instead it's all bks. Just a bunch of gutless twerps who will sell granny at first opportunity.
I think you are totally wrong,ks. Just a bunch of gutless twerps who will sell granny at first opportunity.They didn't sell granny, they gave her away.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46341310
I wonder how this chap would be doing just now if he was a citizen of an independent Scotland and not one of the most influential nations in the world
/speculation
I wonder how this chap would be doing just now if he was a citizen of an independent Scotland and not one of the most influential nations in the world
/speculation
B210bandit said:
Can't believe how little spine the British government have shown. You grown up with all these stories of quiet determination and instead it's all bks. Just a bunch of gutless twerps who will sell granny at first opportunity.
It's shameful. But...ks. Just a bunch of gutless twerps who will sell granny at first opportunity....you can be assured that if Scotland were ever to vote to leave the boot would be well and truly on the other foot.
simoid said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46341310
I wonder how this chap would be doing just now if he was a citizen of an independent Scotland and not one of the most influential nations in the world
/speculation
To be fair, you do have a point. Clutching at straws to an extent, but a point nevertheless.I wonder how this chap would be doing just now if he was a citizen of an independent Scotland and not one of the most influential nations in the world
/speculation
For how long will the UK still have global influence? Post-Brexit, I think our global influence will be less. In fact, how much longer will the UK still exist? Whether you like it or not, Brexit is stirring up huge divisions with Northern Ireland as well as with Scottish independence again.
We live in interesting times.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cen...
if cash is so tight for education why not use their devolved powers to increase tax and give this cash back to education budgets?!?!?
if cash is so tight for education why not use their devolved powers to increase tax and give this cash back to education budgets?!?!?
malks222 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cen...
if cash is so tight for education why not use their devolved powers to increase tax and give this cash back to education budgets?!?!?
I think most schools are facing a similar issue.if cash is so tight for education why not use their devolved powers to increase tax and give this cash back to education budgets?!?!?
malks222 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cen...
if cash is so tight for education why not use their devolved powers to increase tax and give this cash back to education budgets?!?!?
12th December I believe for the "Scottish Budget" so we may yet see something.if cash is so tight for education why not use their devolved powers to increase tax and give this cash back to education budgets?!?!?
Edinburger said:
To be fair, you do have a point. Clutching at straws to an extent, but a point nevertheless.
For how long will the UK still have global influence? Post-Brexit, I think our global influence will be less. In fact, how much longer will the UK still exist? Whether you like it or not, Brexit is stirring up huge divisions with Northern Ireland as well as with Scottish independence again.
We live in interesting times.
Having nukes and a permanent seat on the Security Council keeps a fair bit of influence, I would think.For how long will the UK still have global influence? Post-Brexit, I think our global influence will be less. In fact, how much longer will the UK still exist? Whether you like it or not, Brexit is stirring up huge divisions with Northern Ireland as well as with Scottish independence again.
We live in interesting times.
B210bandit said:
Edinburger said:
To be fair, you do have a point. Clutching at straws to an extent, but a point nevertheless.
For how long will the UK still have global influence? Post-Brexit, I think our global influence will be less. In fact, how much longer will the UK still exist? Whether you like it or not, Brexit is stirring up huge divisions with Northern Ireland as well as with Scottish independence again.
We live in interesting times.
Having nukes and a permanent seat on the Security Council keeps a fair bit of influence, I would think.For how long will the UK still have global influence? Post-Brexit, I think our global influence will be less. In fact, how much longer will the UK still exist? Whether you like it or not, Brexit is stirring up huge divisions with Northern Ireland as well as with Scottish independence again.
We live in interesting times.
How powerful will the United Kingdom be without (potentially) Northern Ireland and Scotland. It's just England and Wales now. Not even the UK or even GB anymore. That changes everything. Nukes are in a foreign country. Significantly less military forces. Every contract has to be re-written. Billions spent on reunification of the island of Ireland? Or managing a special administrative region there? Billions spent on Scottish independence? Trade deals? Damage to economy? The list goes on.
Edinburger said:
B210bandit said:
Edinburger said:
To be fair, you do have a point. Clutching at straws to an extent, but a point nevertheless.
For how long will the UK still have global influence? Post-Brexit, I think our global influence will be less. In fact, how much longer will the UK still exist? Whether you like it or not, Brexit is stirring up huge divisions with Northern Ireland as well as with Scottish independence again.
We live in interesting times.
Having nukes and a permanent seat on the Security Council keeps a fair bit of influence, I would think.For how long will the UK still have global influence? Post-Brexit, I think our global influence will be less. In fact, how much longer will the UK still exist? Whether you like it or not, Brexit is stirring up huge divisions with Northern Ireland as well as with Scottish independence again.
We live in interesting times.
How powerful will the United Kingdom be without (potentially) Northern Ireland and Scotland. It's just England and Wales now. Not even the UK or even GB anymore. That changes everything. Nukes are in a foreign country. Significantly less military forces. Every contract has to be re-written. Billions spent on reunification of the island of Ireland? Or managing a special administrative region there? Billions spent on Scottish independence? Trade deals? Damage to economy? The list goes on.
Alpacaman said:
Edinburger said:
B210bandit said:
Edinburger said:
To be fair, you do have a point. Clutching at straws to an extent, but a point nevertheless.
For how long will the UK still have global influence? Post-Brexit, I think our global influence will be less. In fact, how much longer will the UK still exist? Whether you like it or not, Brexit is stirring up huge divisions with Northern Ireland as well as with Scottish independence again.
We live in interesting times.
Having nukes and a permanent seat on the Security Council keeps a fair bit of influence, I would think.For how long will the UK still have global influence? Post-Brexit, I think our global influence will be less. In fact, how much longer will the UK still exist? Whether you like it or not, Brexit is stirring up huge divisions with Northern Ireland as well as with Scottish independence again.
We live in interesting times.
How powerful will the United Kingdom be without (potentially) Northern Ireland and Scotland. It's just England and Wales now. Not even the UK or even GB anymore. That changes everything. Nukes are in a foreign country. Significantly less military forces. Every contract has to be re-written. Billions spent on reunification of the island of Ireland? Or managing a special administrative region there? Billions spent on Scottish independence? Trade deals? Damage to economy? The list goes on.
s2art said:
Edinburger said:
How powerful will the United Kingdom be without (potentially) Northern Ireland and Scotland.
Wouldnt make much difference. A big chunk of Scottish business would move to England (just maybe Wales). And the rUK would be richer.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff