Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8

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Gecko1978

9,750 posts

158 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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A.J.M said:
Does not even look at her...Sit Down

technodup

7,585 posts

131 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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It deserves a meme with James- Sit Down, Ruthie and stumpy Sturgeon all juxtaposed. Sadly I'm not that creative or I'd do it myself.

mercGLowner

1,668 posts

185 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Ruth Davidson is an impressive and convincing politician and leader of the opposition at Holyrood. I reckon, in the event of another referendum, she is one the Unionists' side strongest weapons and she will play a leading role, no doubting. She is almost the antithesis of bog standard Tory politician and leader, and she doesn't seem to carry the baggage of the Tory past in Scotland, so reviled by many of the populace.

She could continue to turn around the fortunes of the Scottish Conservative party and one reason NS wants indyref2 so soon is that Ruth is a credible threat to the SNP stranglehold on power in Scotland. She is definitely one to watch really closely.


FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Holyrood votes in favour of Sturgeon being able to speak to Westminster RE another referendum.

williamp

19,270 posts

274 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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I tend to detest all politicians, but I make the exception for Ruth Davidson, whom I have a lot of time for.

As an aside, if Scotland do leave the union, should we charge them £50bn???

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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williamp said:
I tend to detest all politicians, but I make the exception for Ruth Davidson, whom I have a lot of time for.

As an aside, if Scotland do leave the union, should we charge them £50bn???
Will you call it quits for a sixty year old Macallan?

Smollet

10,638 posts

191 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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FN2TypeR said:
Holyrood votes in favour of Sturgeon being able to speak to Westminster RE another referendum.
She can speak all she likes but she won't get her way. Perhaps going back to the day job of making Scotland successful might be an idea rather than continuing this fatuous pipe dream.

wobert

5,057 posts

223 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Listened to some SNP MEP on R5 this afternoon.

It was like some kind of key word bullst bingo...

Will of the Scottish Parliament

SNP mandate

Will of the Scottish people

62% voted to remain in the EU

And on it went.......

When the interviewer challenged the MEP over what Sturgeon would do in the event of a "NO" from Nay it all went a bit muddled and the argument turned to "the process being hugely undemocratic".

So i think the SNP have shot their only bolt and now realised that they won't get their way and have no further levers to manipulate the situation.....

Oh dear, that's a shame......

Patrick Bateman

12,195 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Did they actually use 'will of the people'?

They very notably changed that to 'parliament' in recent weeks.

wobert

5,057 posts

223 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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I can't confirm for definate...

Mr-B

3,785 posts

195 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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williamp said:
I tend to detest all politicians, but I make the exception for Ruth Davidson, whom I have a lot of time for.

As an aside, if Scotland do leave the union, should we charge them £50bn???
Nah, £51bn biggrin

Mind you how would they pay it? GBP, Scottish Pounds, Euros confused

percymk4

384 posts

187 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Mr-B said:
williamp said:
I tend to detest all politicians, but I make the exception for Ruth Davidson, whom I have a lot of time for.

As an aside, if Scotland do leave the union, should we charge them £50bn???
Nah, £51bn biggrin

Mind you how would they pay it? GBP, Scottish Pounds, Euros confused

r11co

6,244 posts

231 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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percymk4 said:
Keep up! Here's this week's proposal..


DrDeAtH

3,588 posts

233 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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r11co said:
Keep up! Here's this week's proposal..

It can't be the royal bank though... the queen won't be the head of state, republican bank maybe..?

Dixy

2,929 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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DrDeAtH said:
It can't be the royal bank though... the queen won't be the head of state, republican bank maybe..?
Really

Murph7355

37,767 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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DrDeAtH said:
It can't be the royal bank though... the queen won't be the head of state, republican bank maybe..?
They're keeping the queen. Nicola said so (and to be fair I imagine HMQ quite likes Balmoral).

In fact Nicola will bill us for the Queen each year.

DocJock

8,360 posts

241 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Won't she?

The SNP have been extremely evasive on this question since Salmond stood down.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Can anybody explain to me why "Now is not the time" for a referendum. Surely the triggering of article 50 means Scotland is leaving the EU and their manifesto didn't say but but but we must wait to see the deal.


May should say OK have a referendum in May.

Fastdruid

8,656 posts

153 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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NoNeed said:
Can anybody explain to me why "Now is not the time" for a referendum. Surely the triggering of article 50 means Scotland is leaving the EU and their manifesto didn't say but but but we must wait to see the deal.


May should say OK have a referendum in May.
Nothing has changed yet and nothing will change until the ins and outs of the deal are known. At which point Scotland can have a referendum on leaving or not with the actual knowledge of what will happen rather than just Wee Krankie drumming up fear of hard tory brexit.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Fastdruid said:
NoNeed said:
Can anybody explain to me why "Now is not the time" for a referendum. Surely the triggering of article 50 means Scotland is leaving the EU and their manifesto didn't say but but but we must wait to see the deal.


May should say OK have a referendum in May.
Nothing has changed yet and nothing will change until the ins and outs of the deal are known. At which point Scotland can have a referendum on leaving or not with the actual knowledge of what will happen rather than just Wee Krankie drumming up fear of hard tory brexit.
Nothing changes until we leave, so the vote must come after if something has to change.
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