Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8
Discussion
OpulentBob said:
As said many times, if Scotland wants independence, simply give England the vote. They'd be out on their ear in no time. Sick of that little Sturgeon bint. Go, take their guts-wrapped-in-guts haggis, Irn-bru, low life expectancy, unintelligible speech, deep fried everything, and general over-arching Nesbitt tendencies and just go. Please.
That’s really ignorant. I’m not sure why you’d say that once let alone many times.The U.K. would be much worse of if Scotland leaves, everyone with a clue, really hopes it doesn’t happen.
Interesting article, FastDruid, thanks. No recommendations for the procedure to be followed once independence occurs. Would also be useful to look to all the other examples of independence and currency issues around the world otherwise it just looks like egg heads arguing for the sake of it. Could look at e.g. how NZ moved from the pound sterling and set up its own currency in 1933.
OpulentBob said:
As said many times, if Scotland wants independence, simply give England the vote. They'd be out on their ear in no time. Sick of that little Sturgeon bint. Go, take their guts-wrapped-in-guts haggis, Irn-bru, low life expectancy, unintelligible speech, deep fried everything, and general over-arching Nesbitt tendencies and just go. Please.
OpulentBob, can you ask yourself why you hate your kith and kin so much? I've noticed this in Britain compared to other countries-people really don't like their own countryfolk. It's really sad and not getting any better.OpulentBob said:
As said many times, if Scotland wants independence, simply give England the vote. They'd be out on their ear in no time. Sick of that little Sturgeon bint. Go, take their guts-wrapped-in-guts haggis, Irn-bru, low life expectancy, unintelligible speech, deep fried everything, and general over-arching Nesbitt tendencies and just go. Please.
Please don’t conflate the SNP and their supporters with Scotland as a whole. The SNP is a minority Scottish government and the Scottish referendum result was to remain as part of the UK. The majority of Scottish people dislike Sturgeon and the way she portrays Scotland.El stovey said:
Evercross said:
sbarclay62 said:
A united Ireland and Independant Scotland just round the corner.
The Ashcroft poll disregarded don't knows. So did the poll just before the 2014 referendum that put 'Yes' ahead by the same margin as the Ashcroft poll.
Spotting a pattern?
Anyway, in other news John McDonnell has just completed the job of making Labour totally irrelevant in Scotland.
Edited by Evercross on Wednesday 7th August 11:16
Brexit is very unpopular in Scotland, more than ever it’s looking like it could lead to a breakup of the U.K.
Everyone likes to laugh at McDonnell and the SNP on here but like brexit and trump and the rise of the brexit party, I think it could be another possible low probability outcome due to politicians misreading the mood of sections of the country.
I can’t see any SNP / Labour coalition though. Too many varied political opinions in the SNP for that. Although some of those senior members who are hell bent on independence come rain, hail or snow might buy into it.
Welshbeef said:
sbarclay62 said:
Every single newspaper backed No, every news channel was bias towards No, our largest companies and their directors all backed No and threatened staff with redundancies. Course the weight of the Establishment was behind "staying together".
Can you provide the links to which companies threatened their staff with redundancies due to a democratic vote. 
andy_s said:
Evercross said:
Anyway, I do not fear a marginal vote for Scottish independence because Brexit has shown the process will be long, slow and politically mitigated to the point that it probably won't happen regardless.
I mentioned before that I think Scotland has forgotten it has devolved powers and its own parliament; if we were to go through the turgid and tortuous process of untangling and renegotiating an exit a la Brexit, I would imagine the concessions on both sides would lead us to eventually being in a very similar situation to that which we're in today.OpulentBob said:
As said many times, if Scotland wants independence, simply give England the vote. They'd be out on their ear in no time. Sick of that little Sturgeon bint. Go, take their guts-wrapped-in-guts haggis, Irn-bru, low life expectancy, unintelligible speech, deep fried everything, and general over-arching Nesbitt tendencies and just go. Please.
That’s nice. Edinburger said:
Evercross said:
Fastdruid said:
As well as the UK debts...
Naw, they are going to threaten to walk away from them if they don't get a good deal.Sound familiar?
Thought not.
And then you wonder why we say you have no credibility.
Edited by Evercross on Wednesday 7th August 13:35
Evercross said:
Edinburger said:
Evercross said:
Fastdruid said:
As well as the UK debts...
Naw, they are going to threaten to walk away from them if they don't get a good deal.Sound familiar?
Thought not.
And then you wonder why we say you have no credibility.
Edited by Evercross on Wednesday 7th August 13:35
OpulentBob said:
As said many times, if Scotland wants independence, simply give England the vote. They'd be out on their ear in no time. Sick of that little Sturgeon bint. Go, take their guts-wrapped-in-guts haggis, Irn-bru, low life expectancy, unintelligible speech, deep fried everything, and general over-arching Nesbitt tendencies and just go. Please.
Suits us. We'll take our free university places, free prescriptions, no bedroom tax and the UK's fishing and oil stocks with us aswell. I'll let you get back to reading your Daily Mail now...
sbarclay62 said:
Suits us. We'll take our free university places, free prescriptions, no bedroom tax and the UK's fishing and oil stocks with us aswell.
I'll let you get back to reading your Daily Mail now...
Oil stocks when moving to a carbon net neutral country. 21 years to achieve that aim.I'll let you get back to reading your Daily Mail now...
How do you go carbon net neutral while digging up fossil fuels?
Uni places aren’t free. The fee is paid for by the government and by the tax payer. That money for the fee means other areas go without.
El stovey said:
Labour (well Corbyn and McDonnell) seem to be open to a SNP coalition this week.
Brexit is very unpopular in Scotland, more than ever it’s looking like it could lead to a breakup of the U.K.
Everyone likes to laugh at McDonnell and the SNP on here but like brexit and trump and the rise of the brexit party, I think it could be another possible low probability outcome due to politicians misreading the mood of sections of the country.
Please be mindful of the fact that many Scots voted against leaving due to the fact that this would stop another referendum Brexit is very unpopular in Scotland, more than ever it’s looking like it could lead to a breakup of the U.K.
Everyone likes to laugh at McDonnell and the SNP on here but like brexit and trump and the rise of the brexit party, I think it could be another possible low probability outcome due to politicians misreading the mood of sections of the country.
Edinburger said:
Evercross said:
Fastdruid said:
As well as the UK debts...
Naw, they are going to threaten to walk away from them if they don't get a good deal.Sound familiar?
Thought not.
sbarclay62 said:
Suits us. We'll take our free university places, free prescriptions, no bedroom tax and the UK's fishing and oil stocks with us aswell.
I'll let you get back to reading your Daily Mail now...
Thought you were a strong green nation as such don’t want to extract more oil. Plus take the oil you take the decommissioning costs too... I'll let you get back to reading your Daily Mail now...
Reality is the oil there is pricy to extract now and the rate of change of moving to EV kind of makes pushing for Dino juice a bit pointless.
Groat said:
Voted NO in last referendum.
Won't vote in the next one.
Reason: Couldn't give a f
k anymore.
If serious I can share some contact details of charities who might be able to help you in your condition. It’s horrible being there not being able to see the light but sometimes they can help and get you back on your feet. Your welfare is important you are important don’t forget that. Won't vote in the next one.
Reason: Couldn't give a f
k anymore. Life goes on but those thoughts of potentially ending it sooner than fate has it planned for you isn’t the best solution for anyone.
PM me I you want a chat.
Evercross said:
Edinburger said:
Apologies. I thought you were talking about something recent and relevant.
Time hasn't altered the issue 'burger.Is this how Nationalists think - we've talked about but reached no resolution, so we don't want to hear it any more?
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