Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8
Discussion
I can’t begin to imagine how much carnage this workplace parking levy will cause. Will it be sufficiently devolved so that the cash strapped councils take the blame and SNP wash their hands of it?
I did note that the writer declared lowering the drink drive limit as one of the few SNP successes - I hold that in the virtue signalling pile too.
I did note that the writer declared lowering the drink drive limit as one of the few SNP successes - I hold that in the virtue signalling pile too.
Edited by simoid on Saturday 12th October 09:57
simoid said:
I can’t begin to imagine how much carnage this workplace parking levy will cause.
It will encourage where possible WFH more often - however the passing trade lunch coffee shop browsing on lunch break etc will suffer. The issue I have is with any of these ideas is they are likely well meaning BUT unintended consequences or alternatives simply don’t exist. Offer those then it works otherwise not.
It’s a very large stick, but the expensive, useless carrot of public transport is negligible for most car commuters.
It’s basically just gonna be a tax that employers or employees will have to pay. Or employees will say “don’t bother giving me a parking space” and will park in nearby residential areas...
It’s basically just gonna be a tax that employers or employees will have to pay. Or employees will say “don’t bother giving me a parking space” and will park in nearby residential areas...
I'm happy that their impact on my life is minimal. I wfh so no parking levy for me. I also to a large extent control how much I pay in tax, and that is being 'controlled' ever more closely. I have no kids and rarely drink alcohol so haven't been touched by that pish. I object not because it affects me but because of the ever expanding state and reduction in freedoms.
A different viewpoint from McAlpine granted, but if you're not pleasing the right, left, or indy fanbois then who are you pleasing?
A different viewpoint from McAlpine granted, but if you're not pleasing the right, left, or indy fanbois then who are you pleasing?
This has really boiled my piss. This knob jockey thinks the SNP can just steam roll independence without a vote!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-po...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-po...
simoid said:
Will be a interesting experiment i suppose. But perhaps they should looking at why so many people are turning to drugs in the first place. It's the same as this supposed increase in mental health problems when all you get is we need to spend more money on it instead of asking why its happening in the first place.
simoid said:
Thereby proving that even a stopped clock is right twice a day.simoid said:
That is how to appeal to your core vote...No doubt the Greens in the rest of the UK will follow suit...andy_s said:
A cautious 'good' from me, however, like other initiatives, it needs a holistic approach. I'll wait for detail to see if it's another sop or an authentic approach.
+1. My bigger fear is that the SNP could be given the power and through general incompetence screw up decriminalisation for everyone else looking on.
k this up and b) blame it on the English Tory Brexit.Regardless of your political opinion, the decriminalisation of drugs is an interesting one.
Scotland has a big issue with illegal drugs. A good friend of mine is fairly high in the drug squad (pun intended) and he has often told me of their frustration that so much police time and resources at all levels are taken up with i) petty crime by users to fund their habit, and ii) small-time dealers.
Police Scotland's frustration seems to be that they want to focus their resources on the big dealers, the importers, etc., but are currently unable to do so.
So if this proposal allows them to do that then it might just be worth trying. I'd also like to see more focus on education and awareness of the dangers of drugs for younger kids to help prevent the next generation following that path.
Scotland has a big issue with illegal drugs. A good friend of mine is fairly high in the drug squad (pun intended) and he has often told me of their frustration that so much police time and resources at all levels are taken up with i) petty crime by users to fund their habit, and ii) small-time dealers.
Police Scotland's frustration seems to be that they want to focus their resources on the big dealers, the importers, etc., but are currently unable to do so.
So if this proposal allows them to do that then it might just be worth trying. I'd also like to see more focus on education and awareness of the dangers of drugs for younger kids to help prevent the next generation following that path.
Edinburger said:
Regardless of your political opinion, the decriminalisation of drugs is an interesting one.
Scotland has a big issue with illegal drugs. A good friend of mine is fairly high in the drug squad (pun intended) and he has often told me of their frustration that so much police time and resources at all levels are taken up with i) petty crime by users to fund their habit, and ii) small-time dealers.
Police Scotland's frustration seems to be that they want to focus their resources on the big dealers, the importers, etc., but are currently unable to do so.
So if this proposal allows them to do that then it might just be worth trying. I'd also like to see more focus on education and awareness of the dangers of drugs for younger kids to help prevent the next generation following that path.
But surely this proposal will just decriminalize the 'possession' part of existing drugs legislation. Petty crime, theft, burglary and suchlike won't be affected, and I'd imagine (and hope) that drug dealing will still remain illegal. Scotland has a big issue with illegal drugs. A good friend of mine is fairly high in the drug squad (pun intended) and he has often told me of their frustration that so much police time and resources at all levels are taken up with i) petty crime by users to fund their habit, and ii) small-time dealers.
Police Scotland's frustration seems to be that they want to focus their resources on the big dealers, the importers, etc., but are currently unable to do so.
So if this proposal allows them to do that then it might just be worth trying. I'd also like to see more focus on education and awareness of the dangers of drugs for younger kids to help prevent the next generation following that path.
Cocknose said:
Edinburger said:
Regardless of your political opinion, the decriminalisation of drugs is an interesting one.
Scotland has a big issue with illegal drugs. A good friend of mine is fairly high in the drug squad (pun intended) and he has often told me of their frustration that so much police time and resources at all levels are taken up with i) petty crime by users to fund their habit, and ii) small-time dealers.
Police Scotland's frustration seems to be that they want to focus their resources on the big dealers, the importers, etc., but are currently unable to do so.
So if this proposal allows them to do that then it might just be worth trying. I'd also like to see more focus on education and awareness of the dangers of drugs for younger kids to help prevent the next generation following that path.
But surely this proposal will just decriminalize the 'possession' part of existing drugs legislation. Petty crime, theft, burglary and suchlike won't be affected, and I'd imagine (and hope) that drug dealing will still remain illegal. Scotland has a big issue with illegal drugs. A good friend of mine is fairly high in the drug squad (pun intended) and he has often told me of their frustration that so much police time and resources at all levels are taken up with i) petty crime by users to fund their habit, and ii) small-time dealers.
Police Scotland's frustration seems to be that they want to focus their resources on the big dealers, the importers, etc., but are currently unable to do so.
So if this proposal allows them to do that then it might just be worth trying. I'd also like to see more focus on education and awareness of the dangers of drugs for younger kids to help prevent the next generation following that path.
Cocknose said:
Edinburger said:
Regardless of your political opinion, the decriminalisation of drugs is an interesting one.
Scotland has a big issue with illegal drugs. A good friend of mine is fairly high in the drug squad (pun intended) and he has often told me of their frustration that so much police time and resources at all levels are taken up with i) petty crime by users to fund their habit, and ii) small-time dealers.
Police Scotland's frustration seems to be that they want to focus their resources on the big dealers, the importers, etc., but are currently unable to do so.
So if this proposal allows them to do that then it might just be worth trying. I'd also like to see more focus on education and awareness of the dangers of drugs for younger kids to help prevent the next generation following that path.
But surely this proposal will just decriminalize the 'possession' part of existing drugs legislation. Petty crime, theft, burglary and suchlike won't be affected, and I'd imagine (and hope) that drug dealing will still remain illegal. Scotland has a big issue with illegal drugs. A good friend of mine is fairly high in the drug squad (pun intended) and he has often told me of their frustration that so much police time and resources at all levels are taken up with i) petty crime by users to fund their habit, and ii) small-time dealers.
Police Scotland's frustration seems to be that they want to focus their resources on the big dealers, the importers, etc., but are currently unable to do so.
So if this proposal allows them to do that then it might just be worth trying. I'd also like to see more focus on education and awareness of the dangers of drugs for younger kids to help prevent the next generation following that path.
Making the “purchase” of substances legal does not provide them with the funds
Their methods of raising the funds will not necessarily change be it crime, prostitution, begging etc
It is far from simplistic
In a utopia such as what an independent Scotland will become the effort should be on eradicating the triggers for drug use not changing who the addicts pay
Earthdweller said:
Cocknose said:
Edinburger said:
Regardless of your political opinion, the decriminalisation of drugs is an interesting one.
Scotland has a big issue with illegal drugs. A good friend of mine is fairly high in the drug squad (pun intended) and he has often told me of their frustration that so much police time and resources at all levels are taken up with i) petty crime by users to fund their habit, and ii) small-time dealers.
Police Scotland's frustration seems to be that they want to focus their resources on the big dealers, the importers, etc., but are currently unable to do so.
So if this proposal allows them to do that then it might just be worth trying. I'd also like to see more focus on education and awareness of the dangers of drugs for younger kids to help prevent the next generation following that path.
But surely this proposal will just decriminalize the 'possession' part of existing drugs legislation. Petty crime, theft, burglary and suchlike won't be affected, and I'd imagine (and hope) that drug dealing will still remain illegal. Scotland has a big issue with illegal drugs. A good friend of mine is fairly high in the drug squad (pun intended) and he has often told me of their frustration that so much police time and resources at all levels are taken up with i) petty crime by users to fund their habit, and ii) small-time dealers.
Police Scotland's frustration seems to be that they want to focus their resources on the big dealers, the importers, etc., but are currently unable to do so.
So if this proposal allows them to do that then it might just be worth trying. I'd also like to see more focus on education and awareness of the dangers of drugs for younger kids to help prevent the next generation following that path.
Making the “purchase” of substances legal does not provide them with the funds
Their methods of raising the funds will not necessarily change be it crime, prostitution, begging etc
It is far from simplistic
In a utopia such as what an independent Scotland will become the effort should be on eradicating the triggers for drug use not changing who the addicts pay
Regarding the decriminalisation of drugs, is this so they can then 'treat' addicts of heroin, making it a health matter instead of a criminal one? Allow them to inject in safe and clean environment without having to beg and steal to raise enough money for a quick fix? As someone who lives in an area that was and still is blighted by drug problems i'm all for it. My first memory of school was needle awareness, told not to pick them up, phone police etc etc. That was pre devo and SNP but probably still there fault
Regarding the parking levy - again all for it. So long as the money is put back into public transport infrastructure. Within Edinburgh there aren't many places you can't reach via walking, cycing, bus and tram.
Regarding the parking levy - again all for it. So long as the money is put back into public transport infrastructure. Within Edinburgh there aren't many places you can't reach via walking, cycing, bus and tram.
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