Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8

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Edinburger

8,092 posts

116 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Sometimes when I log on to this thread, I see so much nonsense and downright rubbish and even rude comments posted that I just leave. Don’t even bother replying. So frustrating. A first time visitor to this thread would get a surprise.

In other news, I see Sinn Fein are issuing a lot of comms and press releases about a united Ireland, just as I said.

technodup

5,953 posts

78 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Mr Tidy said:
NRS said:
You just know if independence did happen, then the SNP would start complaining about ‘Westminster’ screwing Scotland by changing the interest rate and not asking Scotland.
Well that would be so inappropriate given that Scotland seems to not have quite 4 Million voters, whereas England has almost 39 Million! So should the UK be ruled by less voters than there are in Birmingham?

My father was born in Muir-of-Ord, but he would never have voted for Independence!

Out of interest when do the English vast majority get to vote on Scottish Independence?
When you have any sort of clue about the point which is being made. Which going by your post isn't going to be anytime soon.

Murph7355

23,476 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Edinburger said:
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In other news, I see Sinn Fein are issuing a lot of comms and press releases about a united Ireland, just as I said.
You weren't previously aware of SF's objectives?

technodup

5,953 posts

78 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Murph7355 said:
Edinburger said:
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In other news, I see Sinn Fein are issuing a lot of comms and press releases about a united Ireland, just as I said.
You weren't previously aware of SF's objectives?
Who'd have thought it? United Ireland party want a united Ireland?

The last couple of posts has plumbed new depths of discourse for this thread. hehe

simoid

18,529 posts

106 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Edinburger said:
Sometimes when I log on to this thread, I see so much nonsense and downright rubbish and even rude comments posted that I just leave. Don’t even bother replying. So frustrating. A first time visitor to this thread would get a surprise.

In other news, I see Sinn Fein are issuing a lot of comms and press releases about a united Ireland, just as I said.
And if there’s any questions you don’t want to answer you just log out too.

Evercross

906 posts

12 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Edinburger said:
Sometimes when I log on to this thread, I see so much nonsense and downright rubbish and even rude comments posted that I just leave. Don’t even bother replying. So frustrating. A first time visitor to this thread would get a surprise.
Notwithstanding that the above is just opinion (and like aholes, every has one), what is your point?

I'll admit I have been very rude about Ian Blackford, but then he is a vile example of a human being - a charlatan who thinks it is OK to profit personally from investment in arms sales but constructs extreme levels of outrage when the government that pays one of his many salaries wants to defend its citizens using the same armaments. A man who benefits from the fees raised through setting up tax avoidance schemes yet wants to enact policies to prevent others using similar schemes. A man who will exercise physical violence and intimidation upon anyone who dare point out these contradictory aspects of his pseudo-morality, and fabricates stories about the sources of his income in order to make himself more appealing to his electorate.

By extension I have zero respect for anyone and everyone who supports in any way the political party that thinks he is fit to represent them and at the highest level too. You can hit me with any amount of your whitabootery about other politicians, but the man is scum in an ill-fitting suit.

If a 'first time visitor' is surprised by any above the above then they can avail themselves of all the evidence easily via Google.

Edited by Evercross on Tuesday 19th November 10:43

Alpacaman

606 posts

189 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Evercross said:
Notwithstanding that the above is just opinion (and like aholes, every has one), what is your point?

I'll admit I have been very rude about Ian Blackford, but then he is a vile example of a human being - a charlatan who thinks it is OK to profit personally from investment in arms sales but constructs extreme levels of outrage when the government that pays one of his many salaries wants to defend its citizens using the same armaments. A man who benefits from the fees raised through setting up tax avoidance schemes yet wants to enact policies to prevent others using similar schemes. A man who will exercise physical violence and intimidation upon anyone who dare point out these contradictory aspects of his pseudo-morality, and fabricates stories about the sources of his income in order to make himself more appealing to his electorate.

By extension I have zero respect for anyone and everyone who supports in any way the political party that thinks he is fit to represent them and at the highest level too. You can hit me with any amount of your whitabootery about other politicians, but the man is scum in an ill-fitting suit.

If a 'first time visitor' is surprised by any above the above then they can avail themselves of all the evidence easily via Google.

Edited by Evercross on Tuesday 19th November 10:43
I suspect he is raging at the moment considering how annoyed he got at, quite correctly, being described as a former Banker. The LibDem leaflets have the headline- "Skye needs a full time MP". It also says things like "We need an MP who prioritises our community" and "Local folks are saying we deserve a full-time MP to ensure we get the best deal for our community." I wonder how long until they get a visit from the SNP to try and point out they are wrong.

Pastor Of Muppets

256 posts

10 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Alpacaman said:
Evercross said:
Notwithstanding that the above is just opinion (and like aholes, every has one), what is your point?

I'll admit I have been very rude about Ian Blackford, but then he is a vile example of a human being - a charlatan who thinks it is OK to profit personally from investment in arms sales but constructs extreme levels of outrage when the government that pays one of his many salaries wants to defend its citizens using the same armaments. A man who benefits from the fees raised through setting up tax avoidance schemes yet wants to enact policies to prevent others using similar schemes. A man who will exercise physical violence and intimidation upon anyone who dare point out these contradictory aspects of his pseudo-morality, and fabricates stories about the sources of his income in order to make himself more appealing to his electorate.

By extension I have zero respect for anyone and everyone who supports in any way the political party that thinks he is fit to represent them and at the highest level too. You can hit me with any amount of your whitabootery about other politicians, but the man is scum in an ill-fitting suit.

If a 'first time visitor' is surprised by any above the above then they can avail themselves of all the evidence easily via Google.

Edited by Evercross on Tuesday 19th November 10:43
I suspect he is raging at the moment considering how annoyed he got at, quite correctly, being described as a former Banker. The LibDem leaflets have the headline- "Skye needs a full time MP". It also says things like "We need an MP who prioritises our community" and "Local folks are saying we deserve a full-time MP to ensure we get the best deal for our community." I wonder how long until they get a visit from the SNP to try and point out they are wrong.
I really struggle to see why people would want to vote for cretins like Blackford, a more unsavoury and deceitful
politician you would struggle to find, well ok there are a few but he is particularly rancid.

If there was a pie in the Skye his fingers would be in it, his face alone is doing Scotland's image great harm and thats
before he even starts one his venomous spit filled rants. I pray the people of Scotland get rid of him, an absolute
affront to our country. How the hell did our standard of MP's drop this low?

Evercross

906 posts

12 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Alpacaman said:
I wonder how long until they get a visit from the SNP to try and point out they are wrong.
I posted something on social media recently correcting a journalist who had reported that Blackford was chairman of a finance company that sold 'funeral plans', saying that I could understand how they could make such a mistake considering the opacity of Blackford's business dealings and pointing out that they were actually taking fees for setting up family trusts for the purposes of avoiding inheritance tax.

I am currently awaiting a visit from one of Blackford's heavies. Either that or my home will be vandalised......

Edited by Evercross on Tuesday 19th November 11:33

768c

2,181 posts

46 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Edinburger said:
I see so much nonsense and downright rubbish and even rude comments......So frustrating....
As is the SNP's manifesto.

Pastor Of Muppets

256 posts

10 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Surprised nobody has mentioned the SNP losing the court case regarding the ITV debate.

Blackford is calling it a 'democratic outrage', the irony is spectacular, karma for the democratic outrage
they have foisted upon the Scottish majority virtually every single day for the last 5 years with their
complete disregard for our democratic vote in 2014.

Every single time they shout about another referendum they are in effect telling over 55% of the Scottish
electorate to go and get fcensoredked They have no respect at all for the decision the country made.

A democratic outrage he says, what a fcensoredking joke.

Edited by Pastor Of Muppets on Tuesday 19th November 17:33

Evercross

906 posts

12 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Pastor Of Muppets said:
Surprised nobody has mentioned the SNP losing the court case regarding the ITV debate.
Because it deserves no attention as the loss was inevitable. ITV can have who they like in their studios and as the debate is over-and-above the allocation parties get for their election broadcasts the SNP nor LibDems had a leg to stand on.

Just more manufactured outrage. Blackford had to spin it by saying it discriminated against Scottish voters, once again disingenuously equating a minority interest with the whole of the Scots populace. The man really is a see-you-next-Tuesday.

Wonder how his arms investments are going?

rossub

2,442 posts

138 months

Tuesday 19th November
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4% of the UK vote and they demand a place on a national TV debate?

They really are utterly, utterly deluded.

biggbn

2,766 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Evercross said:
Because it deserves no attention as the loss was inevitable. ITV can have who they like in their studios and as the debate is over-and-above the allocation parties get for their election broadcasts the SNP nor LibDems had a leg to stand on.

Just more manufactured outrage. Blackford had to spin it by saying it discriminated against Scottish voters, once again disingenuously equating a minority interest with the whole of the Scots populace. The man really is a see-you-next-Tuesday.

Wonder how his arms investments are going?
He is a hypocrite like all those who profit or turn a blind eye to our blood and bullets trade. That likely covers about 75% of parliament....

Evercross

906 posts

12 months

Tuesday 19th November
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biggbn said:
Evercross said:
Because it deserves no attention as the loss was inevitable. ITV can have who they like in their studios and as the debate is over-and-above the allocation parties get for their election broadcasts the SNP nor LibDems had a leg to stand on.

Just more manufactured outrage. Blackford had to spin it by saying it discriminated against Scottish voters, once again disingenuously equating a minority interest with the whole of the Scots populace. The man really is a see-you-next-Tuesday.

Wonder how his arms investments are going?
He is a hypocrite like all those who profit or turn a blind eye to our blood and bullets trade. That likely covers about 75% of parliament....
Unlike the others though, he actively campaigns against the things he himself profits from, and wilfully denies his involvement them. That's a step beyond 'turning a blind eye'.

Borghetto

2,926 posts

131 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Edinburger said:
Sometimes when I log on to this thread, I see so much nonsense and downright rubbish and even rude comments posted that I just leave. .
Go on then, I dare you.

Edinburger

8,092 posts

116 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Edinburger

8,092 posts

116 months

Tuesday 19th November
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rossub said:
4% of the UK vote and they demand a place on a national TV debate?

They really are utterly, utterly deluded.
They’re the third largest party in Parliament.

Edinburger

8,092 posts

116 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Evercross said:
Notwithstanding that the above is just opinion (and like aholes, every has one), what is your point?

I'll admit I have been very rude about Ian Blackford, but then he is a vile example of a human being - a charlatan [/b] who thinks it is OK to profit personally from investment in arms sales [/b] but constructs extrem levels of outrage when the government that pays one of his many salaries wants to defend its citizens using the same armaments. A man who benefits from the fees raised through setting up tax avoidance schemes yet wants to enact policies to prevent others using similar schemes. A man who will exercise physical violence and intimidation upon anyone who dare point out these contradictory aspects of his pseudo-morality, and fabricates stories about the sources of his income in order to make himself more appealing to his electorate.

By extension I have zero respect for anyone and everyone who supports in any way the political party that thinks he is fit to represent them and at the highest level too. You can hit me with any amount of your whitabootery about other politicians, but the man is scum in an ill-fitting suit.

If a 'first time visitor' is surprised by any above the above then they can avail themselves of all the evidence easily via Google.

Edited by Evercross on Tuesday 19th November 10:43
Almost all of us have investments in arms and other unsavoury assets. Unless you have exceptionally ethical investments, which is unlikely in any workplace pensions and other investments you may have little influence in.

biggbn

2,766 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Evercross said:
biggbn said:
Evercross said:
Because it deserves no attention as the loss was inevitable. ITV can have who they like in their studios and as the debate is over-and-above the allocation parties get for their election broadcasts the SNP nor LibDems had a leg to stand on.

Just more manufactured outrage. Blackford had to spin it by saying it discriminated against Scottish voters, once again disingenuously equating a minority interest with the whole of the Scots populace. The man really is a see-you-next-Tuesday.

Wonder how his arms investments are going?
He is a hypocrite like all those who profit or turn a blind eye to our blood and bullets trade. That likely covers about 75% of parliament....
Unlike the others though, he actively campaigns against the things he himself profits from, and wilfully denies his involvement them. That's a step beyond 'turning a blind eye'.
They all have the blood on their hands, hell mend them all.