Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8

[CambsBill]

Edinburger said:

Employment rates are down.

Only in Scotland it seems

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/unemploymen...

"Unemployment in Scotland rises by 20%", whilst the employment rate fell by one full percentage point between May and July. Factor that out and rUK is doing pretty well . . .

[alangla]

Brilliant - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-... - Ferry operator owned by the Scottish Government sues the Scottish Government for not awarding it a contract. You couldn't make it up.

BTW, I think this thread should be renamed Scottish Politics as well - it's useful to have somewhere more general to discuss the daily lunacy of the political situation up here just now.

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Perhaps we should ask the thread to be renamed “Scottish Politics” or equivalent seeing as we’ve had our referendum thread for this generation

Very good! That was actually funny.

I was being serious.

[simoid]

alangla said:

Brilliant - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-... - Ferry operator owned by the Scottish Government sues the Scottish Government for not awarding it a contract. You couldn't make it up.

BTW, I think this thread should be renamed Scottish Politics as well - it's useful to have somewhere more general to discuss the daily lunacy of the political situation up here just now.

Edinburger could. He’s got quite the imagination.

[rossub]

Rollin said:

Edinburger said:

Cantaloupe said:

Rollin said:

You would have to be a total bell end to vote for the SNP because you perceive their policies to be working, but not want independence.

I think a fair percentage of Scottish voters do exactly that, happy to vote for SNP but have no interest in separation.

Yep, a lot of poeple are inti-independence but pro-SNP.

A lot of idiots then.

There's one that sits across from me. He's going to vote SNP as he hates Boris, but I don't think he's an Independence supporter.

He's also English and has only been here about 5 years. He's very into politics and certainly not an idiot though.

I guess it shows that the SNP is full of horse st when they claim a high vote for them is a mandate for another referendum.

[jshell]

And there it is, Scottish private schools to lose tax relief starting next year despite it taking the pressure off state run education. That's my daughter out.

I cannot explain how fking much I hate the SNP and all who vote for these Communist bds.

[Pastor Of Muppets]

jshell said:

And there it is, Scottish private schools to lose tax relief starting next year despite it taking the pressure off state run education. That's my daughter out.

I cannot explain how fking much I hate the SNP and all who vote for these Communist bds.

You are in a rapidly expanding group, I am hearing so many people saying the same thing, people are sick of hearing
her crap and her obnoxious manner, Scotland needs a change from these deviants, and urgently.

[FamousPheasant]

jshell said:

And there it is, Scottish private schools to lose tax relief starting next year despite it taking the pressure off state run education. That's my daughter out.

I cannot explain how fking much I hate the SNP and all who vote for these Communist bds.

I'm feeling the same sentiment reading this news. Pointless gesture politics making a private education even more exclusive.

It will no doubt go down well with the party faithful.

[Evercross]

jshell said:

And there it is, Scottish private schools to lose tax relief starting next year despite it taking the pressure off state run education.

I want to hear 'burgerbot spin that one. The politics of jealousy - nothing more and nothing less.

jshell said:

That's my daughter out.

Indeed. Even if others don't follow suit, the increased tax take from this is going to be paltry as there are only 36 fee-paying schools in Scotland, but I expect others will follow suit and it will lead to the collapse of independent education in Scotland and the tax-payer picking up the tab.

Edited by Evercross on Wednesday 4th December 18:46

[Cantaloupe]

I try not to be too Leftie but you don't think it's perverse that private schools should get charity status ?

A charity is an organisation set up to benefit the wider public by doing charitable things,
buggered if I know how my life is enhanced by having Gordonstoun down the road.

[Evercross]

Cantaloupe said:

I try not to be too Leftie but you don't think it's perverse that private schools should get charity status ?

A charity is an organisation set up to benefit the wider public by doing charitable things,
buggered if I know how my life is enhanced by having Gordonstoun down the road.

As someone said above - they are taking some of the load off the state as an education for every child below the age of 16 is a legal entitlement. The tax 'lost' to independent schools is a piss in the ocean compared to the expense to the local authorities of otherwise having to accommodate and educate their intake.

[FamousPheasant]

Cantaloupe said:

I try not to be too Leftie but you don't think it's perverse that private schools should get charity status ?

A charity is an organisation set up to benefit the wider public by doing charitable things,
buggered if I know how my life is enhanced by having Gordonstoun down the road.

As per the SCIS: "Independent schools in Scotland dedicate over £30 million a year towards means tested bursaries. They also share facilities with the local community, as well as working in partnership with local authority schools to share staff expertise and teaching facilities to the benefit of all pupils involved."

[Leithen]

Most importantly, all the independent schools impacted by this have passed the OSCR charity test. The independent charity regulator has deemed them charities.

OSCR's own response to Barclay highlights its "concerns about treating any group of charities in a differentiated way for tax or other purposes".

A purely political move that will of course worsen the public finances, not improve them.

Nothing to do with distracting from the disaster the SNP have wrought in the Scottish education system. Nothing at all.

[Big Robbo]

Pastor Of Muppets said:

jshell said:

And there it is, Scottish private schools to lose tax relief starting next year despite it taking the pressure off state run education. That's my daughter out.

I cannot explain how fking much I hate the SNP and all who vote for these Communist bds.

You are in a rapidly expanding group, I am hearing so many people saying the same thing, people are sick of hearing
her crap and her obnoxious manner, Scotland needs a change from these deviants, and urgently.

But the intelligently challenged Scots will still vote for them!

[csd19]

O/T for a sec and going back to one of your earlier postings, but would you allow immigration of Scots who have a well-paid job that doesn't tie them to live in the geography in Scotland? Or is naebody gettin' in?

Asking for a friend...

Edited by lids.mod on Thursday 5th December 15:02

[ABZ RS6]

FamousPheasant said:

As per the SCIS: "Independent schools in Scotland dedicate over £30 million a year towards means tested bursaries. They also share facilities with the local community, as well as working in partnership with local authority schools to share staff expertise and teaching facilities to the benefit of all pupils involved."

The first cost saving the independent schools will make is to scrap all these effort because if they don’t I for one will be asking our Headmaster why not.

[csd19]

ABZ RS6 said:

FamousPheasant said:

As per the SCIS: "Independent schools in Scotland dedicate over £30 million a year towards means tested bursaries. They also share facilities with the local community, as well as working in partnership with local authority schools to share staff expertise and teaching facilities to the benefit of all pupils involved."

The first cost saving the independent schools will make is to scrap all these effort because if they don’t I for one will be asking our Headmaster why not.

I hope they remove the community support/involvement, and really hope they can continue without impacting on the bursaries given to bright kids unfortunately from backgrounds unable to afford the fees.

[Cantaloupe]

csd19 said:

FTFY.

O/T for a sec and going back to one of your earlier postings, but would you allow immigration of Scots who have a well-paid job that doesn't tie them to live in the geography in Scotland? Or is naebody gettin' in?

Asking for a friend...

Wee Nicky says, A separated Scotland will welcome all immigrants, even the bd English
[ she didn't actually say the last bit, but that's what she inferred ]

[csd19]

Cantaloupe said:

csd19 said:

FTFY.

O/T for a sec and going back to one of your earlier postings, but would you allow immigration of Scots who have a well-paid job that doesn't tie them to live in the geography in Scotland? Or is naebody gettin' in?

Asking for a friend...

Wee Nicky says, A separated Scotland will welcome all immigrants, even the bd English
[ she didn't actually say the last bit, but that's what she inferred ]

Bullst - wee Nicky can't say anything other than "Scotland" or "Independence"

I was meaning immigration to England which is what Big Robbo was on about earlier in the thread.

[jshell]

I hate them so much that I can't make a reasoned reply.

The SNP are about dragging everyone down to the same level, not supporting and encouraging growth.

Communists.