Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8
Discussion
stevensdrs said:
Alpacaman said:
Seems like it is just you burger that thinks she is coming over well in debates.
http://deardirtyamerica.com/2019/12/debates-the-de...
I doubt she is on a farewell tour but the rest of the article is pretty near the mark.http://deardirtyamerica.com/2019/12/debates-the-de...
I've not got time to reply to those other replies just now, but you know what - it is what it is.
There is no indisuputable evidence of whether an independent Scotland would or would not balance the books. That just doesn't exist. There is also no indisuptable evidence of the economic impact on rUK if Scotland were to leave the union and go independent.
But you know, this is an emotive topic which touches raw nerves. It'll probably never be answered whether or not the SNP continue to exist and whether or not Scotland goes independent.
As for the SNP, they're not perfect. They're far from perfect. As is every other political party. Same goes for politicians.
Anyway, I won't be on here for a few days as it's Christmas lunch with work today and it'll be a heavy session later. Then I'm off to Norway tomorrow with a few mates for a skiing / boozing weekend so I won't be on here either.
Ooh... Norway... an independent coutry with a population of a similar size to Scotland of 5m'ish... it must be awful there...
Ciao ciao for now amigos.
There is no indisuputable evidence of whether an independent Scotland would or would not balance the books. That just doesn't exist. There is also no indisuptable evidence of the economic impact on rUK if Scotland were to leave the union and go independent.
But you know, this is an emotive topic which touches raw nerves. It'll probably never be answered whether or not the SNP continue to exist and whether or not Scotland goes independent.
As for the SNP, they're not perfect. They're far from perfect. As is every other political party. Same goes for politicians.
Anyway, I won't be on here for a few days as it's Christmas lunch with work today and it'll be a heavy session later. Then I'm off to Norway tomorrow with a few mates for a skiing / boozing weekend so I won't be on here either.
Ooh... Norway... an independent coutry with a population of a similar size to Scotland of 5m'ish... it must be awful there...
Ciao ciao for now amigos.
king horrendous.You really are a piece of work 'burger. You constantly go on about how visitors to this thread would be disappointed by the level of debate yet a considerable proportion of your posts are flippant remarks like the two above.
Since going into full campaign mode you have not exactly covered yourself in glory....
You claim you are not politically affiliated, but you employ every tactic that a dodgy politician uses.
Since going into full campaign mode you have not exactly covered yourself in glory....
Edinburger said:
There is no indisuputable evidence of whether an independent Scotland would or would not balance the books. That just doesn't exist. There is also no indisuptable evidence of the economic impact on rUK if Scotland were to leave the union and go independent.
You are right - no-one has a crystal ball, but then no one ever said the above in this thread. What was said is that Scotland currently doesn't balance the books under its current tax-and-spend regime (despite Blackford going on the BBC and telling lies to the contrary) which you disputed and in your typical style are now trying to reverse out of by changing the parameters.You claim you are not politically affiliated, but you employ every tactic that a dodgy politician uses.
Edited by Evercross on Wednesday 11th December 07:05
Edinburger said:
But it's still the best country to live in, according to the U.N.
Sadly (yes there are a lot of SAD depressed Norwegians but that’s the perpetual darkness of no darkness the other time of year) they don’t have nearly £600billion debt and a 7%++ deficit off the bat with a annual govt spend of c£60billion. If they did it wouldn’t be great at all they would be taxed to the hilt for countless generations. Never have any money to do anything. That’s the difference you’ve built up Such vast debts that as an independent country you couldn’t service the interest let alone pay it down unless you had either crippling tax hikes and big public sector cuts, which given over 50% of Scots work in the public sector would snowball the issue.
Solve this and you could do it - but you have legacy debt and off balance sheet debt and the highest in the western world deficit spend vs tax take so it’s simply a pipe dream.
Evercross said:
You claim you are not politically affiliated, but you employ every tactic that a dodgy politician uses.
He'll be back later I've he's at home and had time to look up an explanation as to why that's not the case. Edited by Evercross on Wednesday 11th December 07:05
Oh wait, no he explained that someone back and you'll have to look for it yourself ( it may have mysteriously disappeared from the thread or be to secret information which he can't share).
Welshbeef said:
Edinburger said:
But it's still the best country to live in, according to the U.N.
Sadly (yes there are a lot of SAD depressed Norwegians but that’s the perpetual darkness of no darkness the other time of year) they don’t have nearly £600billion debt and a 7%++ deficit off the bat with a annual govt spend of c£60billion. If they did it wouldn’t be great at all they would be taxed to the hilt for countless generations. Never have any money to do anything. That’s the difference you’ve built up Such vast debts that as an independent country you couldn’t service the interest let alone pay it down unless you had either crippling tax hikes and big public sector cuts, which given over 50% of Scots work in the public sector would snowball the issue.
Solve this and you could do it - but you have legacy debt and off balance sheet debt and the highest in the western world deficit spend vs tax take so it’s simply a pipe dream.
People get a bit confused by Norways Government Pension Fund, which stands at about $1trillion, but they still have debt too.
Edited by ianrb on Wednesday 11th December 11:06
mcdjl said:
Evercross said:
You claim you are not politically affiliated, but you employ every tactic that a dodgy politician uses.
He'll be back later I've he's at home and had time to look up an explanation as to why that's not the case. Edited by Evercross on Wednesday 11th December 07:05
Oh wait, no he explained that someone back and you'll have to look for it yourself ( it may have mysteriously disappeared from the thread or be to secret information which he can't share).
(FFS, does nobody proof-read before hitting 'submit' these days?)
DocJock said:
I take it English isn't your first language?
(FFS, does nobody proof-read before hitting 'submit' these days?)
Apologies. I blame autocorrect on my phone. Someone should be sometime. Other than that it appears ok to me. If not please tell me which bits are causing you issues.(FFS, does nobody proof-read before hitting 'submit' these days?)
Cantaloupe said:
Talking about small northern european countries, I heard a startling statistic that over 50% of Danish households own a holiday home
by the sea, over 200 000 little cottages litter the Danish coastline.
I wonder what percentage of Scottish families even own one house ?
Not really a good comparison, if indeed the statement is correct. Residential property purchase in Denmark is a highly regulated market and you require government permission to buy a house, even if you are an EU citizen. This was designed to stop (mostly) Germans buying up coastal property in Denmark at much cheaper prices than in German markets. As with all regulation this leads to distortions in the market. Copenhagen is vastly expensive and is still largely a rental market. In addition many of the second homes on the coast are in practice holiday homes run as small businesses on a year round basis.by the sea, over 200 000 little cottages litter the Danish coastline.
I wonder what percentage of Scottish families even own one house ?
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