Great oratory & orators (primarily British, but not only).

Great oratory & orators (primarily British, but not only).

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paul789

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3,690 posts

104 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Recently, I’ve been really trying to get into the mind-set of the brexiteer. This has caused me to watch quite a few of Daniel Hannan’s speeches on youtube. It strikes me that his oratory skills are quite something. It got me thinking, who else is there in recent history who compares or betters him?

Christopher Hitchens spring to mind. Maybe it’s just an Oxford thing.

Zero points for replying with “lease a golf r”, “mx5”, “custard” or “frozen sausages”.

Half points for “mate, you need to get out more”, “seriously mate, have you really started a thread asking for oral?”.

Some impressive Hannan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uep7GA9hCKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt0__X-Be8k

Hitchens? Way too much, you can probably find excellent examples yourself.

Tankrizzo

7,274 posts

193 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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I do love this beaut from Hague regarding Blair's bid for EU presidency some years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Cj1b-rp1E


Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Tony or Hilary Benn.

And I have never voted Labour.

ETA

To the OP
As a Leave voter, THANK YOU for at least trying to see the other sides pov. I wish some of the more vocal Remainers would do the same. Surely you don't agree with everything the EU does. You must have issue with 1 thing. Much like I don't think everything the EU is evil.

Edited by Rich_W on Thursday 30th March 23:09

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Tankrizzo said:
I do love this beaut from Hague regarding Blair's bid for EU presidency some years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Cj1b-rp1E
Brilliant. Even the government benches are laughing.

greygoose

8,262 posts

195 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Modern media have made oratory a bit of an odd concept as sound bites are better for news reports as no news Corp will repeat a long speech as it is too long, Bill Clinton can address a crowd well in a folksy manner.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Jacob Rees-Mogg is one of the best out there at the moment, Farage also very good

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Rees Mogg and Hannan both top drawer.

DrDeAtH

3,588 posts

232 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Jacob Rees Mogg for the win

Dry wit and deadpan delivery..

PurpleAki

1,601 posts

87 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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fblm said:
Tankrizzo said:
I do love this beaut from Hague regarding Blair's bid for EU presidency some years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Cj1b-rp1E
Brilliant. Even the government benches are laughing.
Smashes it. Quite brilliant!

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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paul789 said:
Recently, I’ve been really trying to get into the mind-set of the brexiteer. This has caused me to watch quite a few of Daniel Hannan’s speeches on youtube. It strikes me that his oratory skills are quite something. It got me thinking, who else is there in recent history who compares or betters him?

Christopher Hitchens spring to mind. Maybe it’s just an Oxford thing.

Zero points for replying with “lease a golf r”, “mx5”, “custard” or “frozen sausages”.

Half points for “mate, you need to get out more”, “seriously mate, have you really started a thread asking for oral?”.

Some impressive Hannan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uep7GA9hCKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt0__X-Be8k

Hitchens? Way too much, you can probably find excellent examples yourself.
Thanks for the Hannan clips. Never heard him before. Good speaker.


For oratory skills, I give you Sir Winston:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6llT2ZYg-4E



Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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and 'how to speak like Churchill' by Boris Johnson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLak2IzIv7U

Countdown

39,918 posts

196 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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George Galloway's pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-NK8bWiJoQ

don'tbesilly

13,936 posts

163 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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DrDeAtH said:
Jacob Rees Mogg for the win

Dry wit and deadpan delivery..
JRM, outright winner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCruskU8_Jw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5X_c4OfnGA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCMquZyg0-k

deadslow

8,000 posts

223 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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paul789

Original Poster:

3,690 posts

104 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Rich_W said:
Tony or Hilary Benn.

And I have never voted Labour.

ETA

To the OP
As a Leave voter, THANK YOU for at least trying to see the other sides pov. I wish some of the more vocal Remainers would do the same. Surely you don't agree with everything the EU does. You must have issue with 1 thing. Much like I don't think everything the EU is evil.

Edited by Rich_W on Thursday 30th March 23:09
Oh there are many things I don't like about the EU. I completely get the essential democratic / sovereignty argument too. For me, I worry about the potential economic implications. I depend on the FS industry and I hope we manage to forge a deal which maintains its primacy. I also have severe doubts about the competence of the civil service and our political class to deliver something of this complexity. But, happy to be proved wrong.

I'm all in - not going anywhere, etc etc.....

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Douglas Murray. If you appreciate a bit of Christopher Hitchens and that passion and fire you will appreciate this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiTPqIpGKJU&t=... Just a compilation, there are plenty more videos of him that are more specific. Please give him a watch.

irocfan

40,496 posts

190 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Hate to say it but our friend AH was quite nifty in the old speeches department - are you equating being able to whip-up a crowd into a frenzy with speaking well?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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irocfan said:
Hate to say it but our friend AH was quite nifty in the old speeches department - are you equating being able to whip-up a crowd into a frenzy with speaking well?
He might of been your friend but he certainly wouldn't have been mine, the man was a total who lectured to gullible krauts.

rodericb

6,759 posts

126 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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Rich_W said:
<snip>
To the OP
As a Leave voter, THANK YOU for at least trying to see the other sides pov. I wish some of the more vocal Remainers would do the same....
LOL

paul789

Original Poster:

3,690 posts

104 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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irocfan said:
Hate to say it but our friend AH was quite nifty in the old speeches department - are you equating being able to whip-up a crowd into a frenzy with speaking well?
Ha ha! 0 - Goodwin's Law in under 1 page. Impressive! No, for me it's the quality of argument. If you follow Hitchens' work he's about as anti-facist and anti-totalitarian as you can get. I believe Hannan's father fought the Naxos so this is really not a brown shirt thing.

It's the depth of knowledge, the unflappable style, the ability to hold a crowd seemingly without notes. Hannan does ham it up a bit, but still impressive.


Edited by paul789 on Sunday 2nd April 14:50