USA drops "Mother of All Bombs" on Afghanistan
Discussion
Hosenbugler said:
Are you sure about that? I'm sure I read it was GPS guided, hence the fancy tailfin setup. On another point, it was (according to wiki) designed for delivery by C130 and its variants. Aircraft with a stern door.
In another angle, The Chinese state airline is suspending all flights to Pyonyang from Monday. Allied to the fact that Bejing has moved 150000 troops and medical facilities to Their border with NK, I see fireworks if Fatty Kim carries out a nuclear "test" a week tomorrow.
How I would ,like to have been a fly on the wall during the talks between Trumpy and Xi.
ETA, apparently the nuclear "test" may be tomorrow (sat) not a week tomorrow.
I think using a laser designator to get it more or less where you want it is a good idea.In another angle, The Chinese state airline is suspending all flights to Pyonyang from Monday. Allied to the fact that Bejing has moved 150000 troops and medical facilities to Their border with NK, I see fireworks if Fatty Kim carries out a nuclear "test" a week tomorrow.
How I would ,like to have been a fly on the wall during the talks between Trumpy and Xi.
ETA, apparently the nuclear "test" may be tomorrow (sat) not a week tomorrow.
Edited by Hosenbugler on Friday 14th April 14:13
However, to do its job it doesn't need to sail in the window of building or drop down an air conditioning duct.
If it gets within 100 yards of what it is aiming for - it'll do its job.
The RAF Grand Slam bomb of similar size worked best when it landed beside the target rather than right on top of it.
Jonmx said:
I have nothing against bombing these ISIS fighters, but I do have to question the timing of using the largest non nuclear weapon ever dropped. I doubt I'm alone in thinking it's more of a willy waving exercise than a mission of any real strategic value.
The US obviously dropped it on the weakest country, Afghanistan, to send a message to stronger countries like North Korea and Iran.Kim JU and Xi will know this is a coded message that the US can blast away North Korea's underground nuke stores without using their own nuclear weapons.
Yipper said:
The US obviously dropped it on the weakest country, Afghanistan, to send a message to stronger countries like North Korea and Iran.
Kim JU and Xi will know this is a coded message that the US can blast away North Korea's underground nuke stores without using their own nuclear weapons.
The MOAB even had "you're next Kim" painted on one side and "make America great again" on the other. Kim JU and Xi will know this is a coded message that the US can blast away North Korea's underground nuke stores without using their own nuclear weapons.
Fact.
El stovey said:
Do they just shove the MOAB out the back of the c130?
It's para extracted on a rigid platform (similar to what we use to drop the SBS' RIBs [Rigid Inflatable Boats]). Once clear of the aircraft another para extraction system seperates the bomb from the platform. Once seperated the secondary para system is jettisoned and the bomb glides to its target.Hosenbugler said:
Eric Mc said:
The MOAB is not a precision weapon - which is one of the reason why it hasn't been used up until now - even though it was first tested 14 years ago.
Are you sure about that? I'm sure I read it was GPS guided, hence the fancy tailfin setup. On another point, it was (according to wiki) designed for delivery by C130 and its variants. Aircraft with a stern door. GBU = Guided Bomb Unit
El stovey said:
Jonmx said:
MrBrightSi said:
There was a bit of a (intentional) gaffe on RT last year I think where details of a Russian cobolt bomb/torpedo was caught during filming. They're scary things if produced.
80 ft long, range of 30 miles and a theoretical payload of 100 megatons. The idea being that it's launched from 30 miles out and then detonates somewhere like San Francisco Bay. A really nasty weapon.As someone else said, it would be nice if we could dedicate our resources towards helping one another. Unfortunately, human nature will never allow that to happen.
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2016/12...
Speaking to the BBC, Konstantin Sivkov with the Russian Geopolitical Academy says a 100 megatons warhead could produce a tsunami up to 500 meters high, wiping out all living things 1,500 kilometers deep inside US territory.
I read the bomb destroys everything up to 200 feet below ground, with the shock wave extending to a 1 mile radius. The mushroom cloud extends to 10,000 feet in the atmosphere. There won't be much left after that. Mind you I got the info from the DM and there were no details of house prices anywhere in the area. So believe what you want to.
Thorodin said:
I read the bomb destroys everything up to 200 feet below ground, with the shock wave extending to a 1 mile radius. The mushroom cloud extends to 10,000 feet in the atmosphere. There won't be much left after that. Mind you I got the info from the DM and there were no details of house prices anywhere in the area. So believe what you want to.
Question, do non neuks produce a mushroom cloud?Vipers said:
Thorodin said:
I read the bomb destroys everything up to 200 feet below ground, with the shock wave extending to a 1 mile radius. The mushroom cloud extends to 10,000 feet in the atmosphere. There won't be much left after that. Mind you I got the info from the DM and there were no details of house prices anywhere in the area. So believe what you want to.
Question, do non neuks produce a mushroom cloud?eharding said:
Vipers said:
Thorodin said:
I read the bomb destroys everything up to 200 feet below ground, with the shock wave extending to a 1 mile radius. The mushroom cloud extends to 10,000 feet in the atmosphere. There won't be much left after that. Mind you I got the info from the DM and there were no details of house prices anywhere in the area. So believe what you want to.
Question, do non neuks produce a mushroom cloud?
Vipers said:
eharding said:
Vipers said:
Thorodin said:
I read the bomb destroys everything up to 200 feet below ground, with the shock wave extending to a 1 mile radius. The mushroom cloud extends to 10,000 feet in the atmosphere. There won't be much left after that. Mind you I got the info from the DM and there were no details of house prices anywhere in the area. So believe what you want to.
Question, do non neuks produce a mushroom cloud?http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/216507.stm
El stovey said:
Do they just shove the MOAB out the back of the c130?
You can imagine the green light coming on in the cabin, they shove it out the back and cheer and high five each other as it explodes massively.
I'm against war and stuff but shoving a huge bomb out of the back of a Hercules on your enemy must be very satisfying to all involved.
How do we crowd fund one. I'd give a lot to have naming rights.You can imagine the green light coming on in the cabin, they shove it out the back and cheer and high five each other as it explodes massively.
I'm against war and stuff but shoving a huge bomb out of the back of a Hercules on your enemy must be very satisfying to all involved.
menguin said:
Vipers said:
eharding said:
Vipers said:
Thorodin said:
I read the bomb destroys everything up to 200 feet below ground, with the shock wave extending to a 1 mile radius. The mushroom cloud extends to 10,000 feet in the atmosphere. There won't be much left after that. Mind you I got the info from the DM and there were no details of house prices anywhere in the area. So believe what you want to.
Question, do non neuks produce a mushroom cloud?http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/216507.stm
Not sure about the world being in black and white - it was only 1998! - and I had left home some 10 years before, which makes me *ancient*. :-)
I remember some old girl up on Chapel Hill managed to take a photo of the factory just as it exploded, the photo was in the local papers, looked like something out of Vietnam (or, more topically, Afghanistan).
Parent's house is right at the western end of the village (although the village is about to grow past it), and Pa managed to claim for a couple of broken windows and, bizarrely, a cracked downstairs loo as a result of the explosion.
Had the feed mill not been there and taken the brunt of the blast, things would have been a lot worse. I remember walking up through the fields on the opposite side of the Culm from the factory site, and seeing huge chunks of mangled metal than had been blown across the river. Nasty.
Edited:...and yes, I attended the same primary school...in 1973. I don't think they'd even invented windows back then.
Edited by eharding on Friday 14th April 21:48
eharding said:
Bizarrely, I am in Uffculme at this very moment - back visiting the parents, who have lived here since 1973.
Not sure about the world being in black and white - it was only 1998! - and I had left home some 10 years before, which makes me *ancient*. :-)
I remember some old girl up on Chapel Hill managed to take a photo of the factory just as it exploded, the photo was in the local papers, looked like something out of Vietnam (or, more topically, Afghanistan).
Parent's house is right at the western end of the village (although the village is about to grow past it), and Pa managed to claim for a couple of broken windows and, bizarrely, a cracked downstairs loo as a result of the explosion.
Had the feed mill not been there and taken the brunt of the blast, things would have been a lot worse. I remember walking up through the fields on the opposite side of the Culm from the factory site, and seeing huge chunks of mangled metal than had been blown across the river. Nasty.
Edited:...and yes, I attended the same primary school...in 1973. I don't think they'd even invented windows back then.
Small world! Ok maybe not black & white, but it was just after the introduction of Channel 5 which was obviously a defining moment in TV history Not sure about the world being in black and white - it was only 1998! - and I had left home some 10 years before, which makes me *ancient*. :-)
I remember some old girl up on Chapel Hill managed to take a photo of the factory just as it exploded, the photo was in the local papers, looked like something out of Vietnam (or, more topically, Afghanistan).
Parent's house is right at the western end of the village (although the village is about to grow past it), and Pa managed to claim for a couple of broken windows and, bizarrely, a cracked downstairs loo as a result of the explosion.
Had the feed mill not been there and taken the brunt of the blast, things would have been a lot worse. I remember walking up through the fields on the opposite side of the Culm from the factory site, and seeing huge chunks of mangled metal than had been blown across the river. Nasty.
Edited:...and yes, I attended the same primary school...in 1973. I don't think they'd even invented windows back then.
Edited by eharding on Friday 14th April 21:48
I was in the school library at the time (avoiding lessons rather than participating in any kind of reading, naturally) which had huge single glazed windows. Surprising they withstood kids leaning against them let alone the "blast that shook Culm Valley".
It was very lucky no-one was killed - the explosion was pretty incredible even in the school which is at the top of the hill!
My best friend from school lived in Clay lane. I remember they also had some minor damage but luckily their toilet remained unscathed. Are you sure your old man hadn't had a particularly spicy curry the night before and the explosion was a well timed & useful excuse to claim for a replacement khazi?
menguin said:
My best friend from school lived in Clay lane. I remember they also had some minor damage but luckily their toilet remained unscathed. Are you sure your old man hadn't had a particularly spicy curry the night before and the explosion was a well timed & useful excuse to claim for a replacement khazi?
I have my suspicions, but the insurance company paid up anyway.I'm trying to remember if the primary school even had a library in my day....it was a *very* long time ago. The headmaster was a nice old chap called Mr.Gough, obviously long since departed now.
Anyway, back to the bunker busters.....
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