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Efbe said:
From the same link:"Pollster YouGov also released its election-eve survey at 10pm this evening, with a smaller swing to Remain. That pollster found Remain on 51 per cent, up two, and Leave on 49 per cent, down two."
Leave/Remain polling was close near the vote, with a single figures gap either way. Shy leavers, shy tories.
At the moment the Tory lead is typically mid-to-high teens through mid-twenties. Spot the difference.
Also today we had Corbyn on TV pulling the rug from under Labour, this being the rug that was left after the other rugs that had been pulled since the fiasco of Corbyn first hit our screens. Tim Who is a nonentity though some deluded remoaners will vote for his Party anyway to keep the pipe dream alive. We will surely reconvene on the morning after the night before, when it'll be time to make another cup of tea.
andy_s said:
PurpleAki said:
That should help the conservatives...PurpleAki said:
Blair simply cannot be unaware of how widely despised he is. It's impossible. He's pretty much public enemy no.1 for huge swathes of the population.
I find it mind boggling to think he can possibly believe he'd be a popular and welcome addition to this country's politics.
He looks at his bank/broker statements and thinks "fI find it mind boggling to think he can possibly believe he'd be a popular and welcome addition to this country's politics.
k em" is my guess.PurpleAki said:
Blair simply cannot be unaware of how widely despised he is. It's impossible. He's pretty much public enemy no.1 for huge swathes of the population.
I find it mind boggling to think he can possibly believe he'd be a popular and welcome addition to this country's politics.
his arrogance and self belief is enough for him to dismiss such talk. I hope he comes back so he can be asked the questions he needs to answer.I find it mind boggling to think he can possibly believe he'd be a popular and welcome addition to this country's politics.
PurpleAki said:
Blair simply cannot be unaware of how widely despised he is. It's impossible. He's pretty much public enemy no.1 for huge swathes of the population.
I find it mind boggling to think he can possibly believe he'd be a popular and welcome addition to this country's politics.
But he could be a power broker to the the next phase of the labour party, because let's face it the current mob are not electable.I find it mind boggling to think he can possibly believe he'd be a popular and welcome addition to this country's politics.
Vaud said:
But he could be a power broker to the the next phase of the labour party, because let's face it the current mob are not electable.
I am so reminded of the 80's in Liverpool and the Militant tendency who took over the party and almost destroyed the City leaving a massive debt .I think the infusion of Blair into the Labour Party right now could be explosive but somebody needs to bring the Party back into the main stream.johnxjsc1985 said:
Vaud said:
But he could be a power broker to the the next phase of the labour party, because let's face it the current mob are not electable.
I am so reminded of the 80's in Liverpool and the Militant tendency who took over the party and almost destroyed the City leaving a massive debt .I think the infusion of Blair into the Labour Party right now could be explosive but somebody needs to bring the Party back into the main stream.bmw535i said:
El stovey said:
Blair, unpopular as he undoubtedly is, would still be much more electable than Corbyn. My golden retriever is more electable than Corbyn. Plus he's not a smarmy greasy lying war criminal with a funny faced grasping wife.
Who isn't? Blair?Murph7355 said:
turbobloke said:
sidicks said:
SilverSixer said:
It wasn't a given they would be good things when they were introduced, but they have proven to be good things to the whole of the EU over the course of at least 25 years at no cost whatsoever, just benefit.
With that immense degree of blinkered bias, there's little point in asking the family of one of the many thousands of suicidal and now deceased Greeks to explain how ridiculous it is; there'd be another sweeping statement of baseless europhilia and on we'd go again.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/eu-austerity-killing-...
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/02/04/greek-austerity-spa...
http://www.newsweek.com/greek-crisis-has-seen-rise...
(Sorry SilverSix, I couldn't help it...).
SpeckledJim said:
SilverSixer said:
I still don't know of any good, cogent reason for having voted leave.
How about: based on what I learned about the EU, I believe it's in deep, deep, unfixable trouble and likely to fall over within a generation. So we're better out than in, before that happens.SilverSixer said:
SpeckledJim said:
SilverSixer said:
I still don't know of any good, cogent reason for having voted leave.
How about: based on what I learned about the EU, I believe it's in deep, deep, unfixable trouble and likely to fall over within a generation. So we're better out than in, before that happens.Likes Fast Cars said:
SilverSixer said:
This doesn't work because the UK electorate is even more likely to vote to leave the EU in a second referendum if the EU is seen to be so obstructive and vicious in the negotiations as to deliberately deliver a warm sticky turd to us and be seen to try to manipulate us so flagrantly. It's not as straight forward as you'd like to present.
What do you make of the data showing some 61% are now in favour of Brexit? Reinforces your point.Macron's coming now, Merkel will return, Netherlands rejected the right and Nedexit. We're soon going to be islolated, irrelevant and impoverished. This GE is now a golden opportunity to turn back. We need LibDems in government.
El stovey said:
My golden retriever is more electable than Corbyn.
I look forward to Schmacko-gate, with revelations that the new Prime Minister has been found to have accepted (copious) quantities of delicious dog-treats in exchange for promoting policies favouring certain commercial aviation interests.SilverSixer said:
Well done for stopping he bolds before the IF.
Macron's coming now, Merkel will return, Netherlands rejected the right and Nedexit. We're soon going to be islolated, irrelevant and impoverished. This GE is now a golden opportunity to turn back. We need LibDems in government.
Impoverished? You're full of good tidings today Macron's coming now, Merkel will return, Netherlands rejected the right and Nedexit. We're soon going to be islolated, irrelevant and impoverished. This GE is now a golden opportunity to turn back. We need LibDems in government.
What can the Lib Dums do? Answer: nothing (except go running cap in hand to the EU and beg to be taken back in on extremely unfavourable terms).
SilverSixer said:
Macron's coming now, Merkel will return, Netherlands rejected the right and
Nedexit
You're seemingly blissfully unaware of the trend across numerous countries. That's scary.Nedexit
SilverSixer said:
We're soon going to be islolated, irrelevant and impoverished. This GE is now a golden opportunity to turn back.
Why don't you fk off to an EU country before it's too late if you are that concerned. Or are you just another one of those not prepared to put their money where their mouth is?SilverSixer said:
We need LibDems in government.
SilverSixer said:
Well done for stopping he bolds before the IF.
Macron's coming now, Merkel will return, Netherlands rejected the right and Nedexit. We're soon going to be islolated, irrelevant and impoverished. This GE is now a golden opportunity to turn back. We need LibDems in government.
- Le Pen's support has increasedMacron's coming now, Merkel will return, Netherlands rejected the right and Nedexit. We're soon going to be islolated, irrelevant and impoverished. This GE is now a golden opportunity to turn back. We need LibDems in government.
- Wilders support has increased
- we'll see on Merkel, but to be perfectly honest I would be staggered if Germany ever voted for anything other than "more EU" as they have been by FAR the biggest beneficiary of the project
Anti-EU sentiment has not gone away. It is increasing, whether parties gained power this time or not. As with all of this stuff, time will tell.
We need LibDems in government like we need a hole in the head. If you think that bunch of wet no marks could run the country you are seriously deluded.
Are there 5 other policies of theirs in their current manifesto that you think are good for this country?
In fact even on a Brexit reversal, how do you expect that to work, and what position within the EU do you think we would be in then? (Apart from you being able to retire to Languedoc?).
SilverSixer said:
Macron's coming now, Merkel will return, Netherlands rejected the right and Nedexit.
Is that in the same snapshot sense that the UK rejected UKIP in 2010 and 2015 after which the rising levels of awareness of EU unfitness for purpose and general failure led to a Leave vote?SilverSixer said:
We're soon going to be islolated, irrelevant and impoverished.
That tactic was tried by Cameron and Osborne where the soon was even sooner and you're simply taking a leaf out of the EU Book of Forlorn Hope and kicking the project fear can down the road. It won't work this time either because it's just wrong. SilverSixer said:
This GE is now a golden opportunity to turn back. We need LibDems in government.
The shortest odds for a LibDem win on oddschecker are 22/1 but you could get closer to 70/1 depending on how the positions have changed since I last looked. The fortune you make could get that european retirement aim sorted, there's nothing Toulouse surely.
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