Snap General Election?

[Puggit]

JawKnee said:

P5BNij said:

My my JK, he must have been a little confused at the time then, he had no trouble at all being rather friendly with his murdering IRA chums.

All the while Thatcher called Pinochet a "Friend of democracy". Looks like Jezza was on the right side of history.

I'm assuming you didn't support our action in the Falklands then? You'd rather a military junta ran the island than via self governance?

[sidicks]

Puggit said:

I'm assuming you didn't support our action in the Falklands then? You'd rather a military junta ran the island than via self governance?

Self-determination means nothing to some people.

[Vaud]

FredericRobinson said:

I've had my first leaflet of the campaign through the door, the Conservatives say that it is time for the Scottish electorate to send a firm message to Nicola Sturgeon, it's just not on for her to keep trying to re-run votes every couple of years just because she thinks she'll get a better result this time.
Quite right too.

I agree with a vote on independence, but "once in a generation" should mean that. Every 20-25 years (being generous in defining a generation) is fine with me.

[alfie2244]

brenflys777 said:

P5BNij said:

My my JK, he must have been a little confused at the time then, he had no trouble at all being rather friendly with his murdering IRA chums.

Don't forget his friends in Hamas who don't like Jews... he refuses to condemn them too. Basically he has one principle - to be contrary regardless of the hypocrisy. The mans a weasel.

The very fact that Comrad Corbyn actually won 2 leadership challenges just shows what a bunch of 2nd raters there are in the entire Labour ranks.

[confused_buyer]

SilverSixer said:

Leaving the EU is the most harmful political decision we can take, short of declaring war on a nuclear superpower. So I have to say I don't agree with your position. We need to prevent it happening.

Chances of us doing so? Negligible, I know. But I think I've already said 2 or 3 times in this thread that I want to stand up for what I think is right.

So declaring war on Germany is less damaging than leaving the EU? Are you serious or drunk?

I also, seriously, have to ask as others have why you are putting electoral effort into getting votes from people who cannot vote? Only RoI and in certain circumstances Cyprus and Malta citizens can vote in a UK general election among EU nationals. If you have a local agent who is suggesting recruiting other non-EU nationals as voters and wasting valuable local resources on them - and I mean this as genuine friendly election advice - they are a tit and you need to get them sacked and replaced as soon as possible.

Election resources at a local level are always stretched and very valuable - wasting them on people who can and do make no difference is pure madness.

The truth is though the time to get politically active on the EU subject was 18 months ago - you're too late to the party.

[RichB]

JawKnee said:

P5BNij said:

My my JK, he must have been a little confused at the time then, he had no trouble at all being rather friendly with his murdering IRA chums.

All the while Thatcher called Pinochet a "Friend of democracy". Looks like Jezza was on the right side of history.

As they say two wrongs don't make a right. The fact remains that Corbyn cohorted with people who were evil; condoning torture, terrorism and murder through the use of knee-capping (drilling through someone's knees in case you wondered), nail bombs and summary executions. By bringing Thatcher into the discussion you have conceded that you cannot counter the point and simply want to deflect it.

[FredericRobinson]

Vaud said:

I agree with a vote on independence, but "once in a generation" should mean that. Every 20-25 years (being generous in defining a generation) is fine with me.

Certainly should

[Vaud]

alfie2244 said:

The very fact that Comrad Corbyn actually won 2 leadership challenges just shows what a bunch of 2nd raters there are in the entire Labour ranks.

Funny you should mention that.

I believe in strong government AND a corresponding strong opposition.

Going through the pantheon of Labour MPs this evening, there weren't many that I respect as even potential leaders. Dan Jarvis stands out for me as an Ashdown like figure for the party.

Some good "elder statesman" that would provide balance in the Lords (e.g. Benn, Field)

[RATATTAK]

Why doesn't D Miliband step in and rescue the party ?

[turbobloke]

JawKnee said:

Well well well, betting odds being slashed on Corbyn as PM.

Puggit said:

WtF?

One bookmaker cut odds over the weekend after some bets were laid following Corbyn's bribe/promise of 4 additional Bank Holidays. It's good to see Jezza concentrating on the really profound policy areas.

[MiniMan64]

RATATTAK said:

Why doesn't D Miliband step in and rescue the party ?

Because they have a bit further to fall first.

[andy_s]

alfie2244 said:

brenflys777 said:

P5BNij said:

My my JK, he must have been a little confused at the time then, he had no trouble at all being rather friendly with his murdering IRA chums.

Don't forget his friends in Hamas who don't like Jews... he refuses to condemn them too. Basically he has one principle - to be contrary regardless of the hypocrisy. The mans a weasel.

The very fact that Comrad Corbyn actually won 2 leadership challenges just shows what a bunch of 2nd raters there are in the entire Labour ranks.

They have been spectacularly misguided, first Ed instead of David, then twice for Corbin - did Maggie plant a sleeper high up in the Unions...?

[turbobloke]

Oddschecker:

May 1/18

Corbyn 8/1

Labour apparatchiks can put the farm/mortgage/piggybank/benefits on Corbyn and make a packet.

[Truckosaurus]

don'tbesilly said:

...Additionally, the following cannot vote in a UK general election:
...
•EU citizens resident in the UK (although they can vote at elections to local authorities, devolved legislatures and the European Parliament)
...

Very good, I knew they could register and vote in some elections. Seems odd that General Elections are a special case.

[davepoth]

JawKnee said:

while Jeremy was literally standing up with murdering fascists.

EFA. Granted, not all of these were murderers, but they have all endorsed killing in the name of political ideals, and he is rather pally with them. There are probably more but I couldn't be arsed to find them.

-edit-

Also, the jacket in the Adams and Chavez pictures looks identical, but they must have been taken 20 years apart.

Edited by davepoth on Monday 24th April 21:46

[alfie2244]

Shame he doesn't like singing the national anthem.

[JawKnee]

RichB said:

JawKnee said:

P5BNij said:

My my JK, he must have been a little confused at the time then, he had no trouble at all being rather friendly with his murdering IRA chums.

All the while Thatcher called Pinochet a "Friend of democracy". Looks like Jezza was on the right side of history.

As they say two wrongs don't make a right. The fact remains that Corbyn cohorted with people who were evil; condoning torture, terrorism and murder through the use of knee-capping (drilling through someone's knees in case you wondered), nail bombs and summary executions. By bringing Thatcher into the discussion you have conceded that you cannot counter the point and simply want to deflect it.

Show me some evidence that he "condones torture, terrorism and murder through the use of knee-capping (drilling through someone's knees in case you wondered), nail bombs and summary executions". Some actual hard evidence that he supports those things. "Oh, well he met with this or that person" does not count.

Anyway, I thought we was meant to be a weak, pacifist, hippy but now you're trying to paint him as some sort of brutal thug who goes around Islington kicking people's knees in. Make up your mind, you can't have it both ways.

Edited by JawKnee on Monday 24th April 21:55

[davepoth]

JawKnee said:

Show me some evidence that he "condones torture, terrorism and murder through the use of knee-capping (drilling through someone's knees in case you wondered), nail bombs and summary executions". Some actual hard evidence that he supports those things. "Oh, well he met with this or that person" does not count.

Edited by JawKnee on Monday 24th April 21:55

I think it does. Generally speaking, normal people don't take selfies with people they consider to be war criminals.

[Stickyfinger]

davepoth said:

JawKnee said:

Show me some evidence that he "condones torture, terrorism and murder through the use of knee-capping (drilling through someone's knees in case you wondered), nail bombs and summary executions". Some actual hard evidence that he supports those things. "Oh, well he met with this or that person" does not count.

Edited by JawKnee on Monday 24th April 21:55

I think it does. Generally speaking, normal people don't take selfies with people they consider to be war criminals.

Good point......

[JawKnee]

davepoth said:

JawKnee said:

Show me some evidence that he "condones torture, terrorism and murder through the use of knee-capping (drilling through someone's knees in case you wondered), nail bombs and summary executions". Some actual hard evidence that he supports those things. "Oh, well he met with this or that person" does not count.

Edited by JawKnee on Monday 24th April 21:55

I think it does. Generally speaking, normal people don't take selfies with people they consider to be war criminals.

Oh. well in that case.