Snap General Election?

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eharding

13,748 posts

285 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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johnxjsc1985 said:
whenever Labour are taking a pounding as they have done for sometime now their default position is to bring Thatcher into the mix.
When Corbyn has his arse handed to him on a plate they will look about to see who will follow him and the realisation of just who is left in this Party will finally hit home.
I suspect Corbynite Labour will conclude they lost because their message wasn't left wing enough, and hence will shift even further left post election.

So far left, in fact, they may just fall off the edge.

JawKnee

1,140 posts

98 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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davepoth said:
JawKnee said:
I'm still trying to decode your warped logic. Are you saying Jimmy Saville was a war criminal?
You're doing all my work for me. Thanks!
davepoth said:
I think it does. Generally speaking, normal people don't take selfies with people they consider to be war criminals.
I've found a flaw in your logic. That or you believe Jimmy Saville was a war criminal. Which one is it? Either way, you're completely wrong. hehe

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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bmw535i said:
Woah woah, let's not try and get inside the mind of someone who quite clearly needs a lobotomy.

It will be funny to see the wailing on here early June- let's just look forward to that.
they will not acknowledge the defeat and Corbyn will cling on to his position due to the parasitic worms that have infested it.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Hang on...

You responded with the below referring "selfies with people they consider to be war criminals" and included a photo of Savile. Inference was yours...

the kid jawknee is not in the same class as our very own slasher when it comes to manipulation.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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alfie2244 said:
Hang on...

You responded with the below referring "selfies with people they consider to be war criminals" and included a photo of Savile. Inference was yours...

the kid jawknee is not in the same class as our very own slasher when it comes to manipulation.
biglaugh

JawKnee

1,140 posts

98 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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alfie2244 said:
Hang on...

You responded with the below referring "selfies with people they consider to be war criminals" and included a photo of Savile. Inference was yours...

the kid jawknee is not in the same class as our very own slasher when it comes to manipulation.
You missed the sarcastic tone of my response. "Oh, well in that case" pointing out the absurdity of DavePoths argument. Either his argument is wrong about what having a photo taken with somebody means about your own ethics or Jimmy Saville is a war criminal. He is yet to confirm which one it is.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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JawKnee

I have a proposition for you - if Corbyn / Labour manage to secure fewer seats than they achieved at the previous general election, you promise never to darken this forum with your presence ever again.

If May / Conservatives manage to secure fewer seats than they achieved at the previous general election, I promise never to visit this forum again.

Do we have a deal?

eharding

13,748 posts

285 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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sidicks said:
JawKnee

I have a proposition for you - if Corbyn / Labour manage to secure fewer seats than they achieved at the previous general election, you promise never to darken this forum with your presence ever again.

If May / Conservatives manage to secure fewer seats than they achieved at the previous general election, I promise never to visit this forum again.

Do we have a deal?
Damn. Suddenly a surprise LibDem landslide victory - meaning we'd be rid of both of you - doesn't seem like such a bad idea.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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eharding said:
Damn. Suddenly a surprise LibDem landslide victory - meaning we'd be rid of both of you - doesn't seem like such a bad idea.
biggrin

MiniMan64

16,945 posts

191 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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sidicks said:
JawKnee

I have a proposition for you - if Corbyn / Labour manage to secure fewer seats than they achieved at the previous general election, you promise never to darken this forum with your presence ever again.

If May / Conservatives manage to secure fewer seats than they achieved at the previous general election, I promise never to visit this forum again.

Do we have a deal?
Pretty sure several people on here have already offered up some sort of formal bet/wager with JK on the election result but he's carefully avoided them all.

Funny that.

williamp

19,270 posts

274 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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sadly its the job of people in power to meet with people they dont like.

On wednesday after PMQ Theresa May will be meeting (and, no doubt having a photo) with J-C Juncker. Its after lunch, so he'll be pissed aand possibly very...hands on...


sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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MiniMan64 said:
Pretty sure several people on here have already offered up some sort of formal bet/wager with JK on the election result but he's carefully avoided them all.

Funny that.
Indeed - there was an awful lot of 'chat' from him before the general election was called. Despite things seemingly going downhill since then for Corbyn he's posted equal amounts of nonsense about the likely election outcome, but when it comes to actually putting his 'balls on the block' so to speak, he's suddenly very quite.

After an embarrassing and record default in June, hopefully he'll crawl off to wherever he came from.

9xxNick

929 posts

215 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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JawKnee said:
You missed the sarcastic tone of my response. "Oh, well in that case" pointing out the absurdity of DavePoths argument. Either his argument is wrong about what having a photo taken with somebody means about your own ethics or Jimmy Saville is a war criminal. He is yet to confirm which one it is.
As a Prime Minister you're stuck with being photographed with people you'd probably not choose as friends.

As an MP you have a far greater degree of latitude in that regard.

Would you now care to explain why Jeremy Corbyn was apparently happy to be photographed with these people?

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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williamp said:
sadly its the job of people in power to meet with people they dont like.

On wednesday after PMQ Theresa May will be meeting (and, no doubt having a photo) with J-C Juncker. Its after lunch, so he'll be pissed aand possibly very...hands on...
Which doesn't really explain the Corbyn pictures given that in no way was he a 'person in power' at the time!

JawKnee

1,140 posts

98 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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MiniMan64 said:
sidicks said:
JawKnee

I have a proposition for you - if Corbyn / Labour manage to secure fewer seats than they achieved at the previous general election, you promise never to darken this forum with your presence ever again.

If May / Conservatives manage to secure fewer seats than they achieved at the previous general election, I promise never to visit this forum again.

Do we have a deal?
Pretty sure several people on here have already offered up some sort of formal bet/wager with JK on the election result but he's carefully avoided them all.

Funny that.
No offence, but I'm not the sort to make financial transactions with strange men on the internet. Must be a sordid Tory thing.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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MiniMan64 said:
Pretty sure several people on here have already offered up some sort of formal bet/wager with JK on the election result but he's carefully avoided them all.

Funny that.
Lots of empty remain vessels on here who regularly wither away

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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JawKnee said:
No offence, but I'm not the sort to make financial transactions with strange men on the internet. Must be a sordid Tory thing.
You could even donate your winnings to charity given how confident you supposedly are, but of course you're all about bullst and trolling (no one in their right mind could come up with half the crap you do), not credible debate.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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JawKnee said:
You missed the sarcastic tone of my response. "Oh, well in that case" pointing out the absurdity of DavePoths argument. Either his argument is wrong about what having a photo taken with somebody means about your own ethics or Jimmy Saville is a war criminal. He is yet to confirm which one it is.
davepoth said:
JawKnee said:
Show me some evidence that he "condones torture, terrorism and murder through the use of knee-capping (drilling through someone's knees in case you wondered), nail bombs and summary executions". Some actual hard evidence that he supports those things. "Oh, well he met with this or that person" does not count.

Edited by JawKnee on Monday 24th April 21:55
I think it does. Generally speaking, normal people don't take selfies with people they consider to be war criminals.
So, what I was saying here was that if they consider someone to be a war criminal (and I'd be quite happy to expand that to Donald J. Trump's "Bad Dude" to include scum like Savile) they are unlikely to take a selfie with them. Thus the selfies that Corbyn took with Adams and Chavez (the one with Dyab Abou Jahjah was merely him at a symposium that he "forgot") do suggest that he endorsed their world views, based on what he knew of them at the time.

What makes the difference with Savile was that at the times that both of those photographs were taken there was nothing but rumour and innuendo surrounding his activities.

Corbyn's photo with Adams was when he was at his most active in the Troubles (by the looks of the hairstyles), Chavez' activities were well known by that point, as were the words spoken by Dyab Abou Jahjah, which dated back to just after 9/11.

That doesn't forgive Thatcher - her attitude towards Pinochet was beyond the pale regardless of how much Chile might have helped us in the Falklands. But Corbyn has displayed extremely bad judgement in terms of which global leaders he has endorsed.

The other thing that's worth remembering is that while Blair, Brown and Thatcher were meeting horrible world leaders as part of diplomatic efforts (holding their noses while they did it to some extent), Corbyn was doing it because he wanted to - there wasn't a Whitehall mandarin prodding him to do it.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

159 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Halb said:
It was not widely known though, you have good points with PInochet.
During the Falklands war Pinochet held big military exercises right on the Argentine border, tying up some of their best troops who then couldn't go to the FI.
Like him or not, the man did us/Maggie a big favour.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/10947350/Without-Chiles-help-we-would-have-lost-the-Falklands.html

s2art

18,937 posts

254 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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davepoth said:
That doesn't forgive Thatcher - her attitude towards Pinochet was beyond the pale regardless of how much Chile might have helped us in the Falklands.
Disagree. I invoke Churchill's comment regarding the Devil if Hitler had invaded hell.
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