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98elise

26,644 posts

162 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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sidicks said:
JawKnee said:
No offence, but I'm not the sort to make financial transactions with strange men on the internet. Must be a sordid Tory thing.
You could even donate your winnings to charity given how confident you supposedly are, but of course you're all about bullst and trolling (no one in their right mind could come up with half the crap you do), not credible debate.
I've previously offered to bet £1000, with the winnings going to charity. I'll make the offer again, and no need for JawKnee to enage with "strange men on the internet"

A straight bet on who will be in power after the election. The loser to pay £1000 to the charity of the other person choosing through Just Giving. Easy to prove you've paid as you can leave a message. If the loser doesn't pay them they are to bugger off and never darken these forums again. My charity of choice is Help for Heroes as I'm an ex-serviceman.

So JawKnee, are you up for it or are you just trolling these forums? Surely £1000 is nothing to someone working in the City as you do.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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98elise said:
The loser to pay £1000 to the charity of the other person choosing through Just Giving.
Might want to use another means as Justgiving take a fat commission for themselves.

Likes Fast Cars

2,772 posts

166 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Talk about desperation..... what a bunch of losers:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39698465

Likes Fast Cars

2,772 posts

166 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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and WTF do they mean? Isn't this what the EU have already said they won't agree to doing?

"....seek an early deal on transitional arrangements to smooth the way for the UK's departure in 2019."

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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98elise said:
sidicks said:
JawKnee said:
No offence, but I'm not the sort to make financial transactions with strange men on the internet. Must be a sordid Tory thing.
You could even donate your winnings to charity given how confident you supposedly are, but of course you're all about bullst and trolling (no one in their right mind could come up with half the crap you do), not credible debate.
I've previously offered to bet £1000, with the winnings going to charity. I'll make the offer again, and no need for JawKnee to enage with "strange men on the internet"

A straight bet on who will be in power after the election. The loser to pay £1000 to the charity of the other person choosing through Just Giving. Easy to prove you've paid as you can leave a message. If the loser doesn't pay them they are to bugger off and never darken these forums again. My charity of choice is Help for Heroes as I'm an ex-serviceman.

So JawKnee, are you up for it or are you just trolling these forums? Surely £1000 is nothing to someone working in the City as you do.
Of course he's not up for it.

Firstly he won't be able to afford a grand because fourteen year olds don't have that kind of cash lying around. And even if he did he'd be spending it on a Young Marxists weekend camp in Venezuela I mean, who wouldn't want to be schooled in revoloution by the likes of Karl Brecht Ho Chi Min Mugabe or similar.

Secondly there is no way a person like him would goive a red cent to a fascist militaristic organisation such as Help for Heroes (or as the Left likes to call the Heroes, right wing invaders and facilitaors of the evil Tory war machine).


robemcdonald

8,805 posts

197 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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98elise said:
I've previously offered to bet £1000, with the winnings going to charity. I'll make the offer again, and no need for JawKnee to enage with "strange men on the internet"

A straight bet on who will be in power after the election. The loser to pay £1000 to the charity of the other person choosing through Just Giving. Easy to prove you've paid as you can leave a message. If the loser doesn't pay them they are to bugger off and never darken these forums again. My charity of choice is Help for Heroes as I'm an ex-serviceman.

So JawKnee, are you up for it or are you just trolling these forums? Surely £1000 is nothing to someone working in the City as you do.
Betting on a sure thing isn't exactly brave is it? If we had a real opposition you might not be so keen.

As per my previous unanswered question. If you get rid of everyone with a contrary point of view the forum would die on its arse.

Likes Fast Cars

2,772 posts

166 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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another rat desserting the sinking ship. Good riddance! -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-3968115...


P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Likes Fast Cars said:
Talk about desperation..... what a bunch of losers:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39698465
There's only one word left to describe Labour now - pathetic.

Whenever I try to point out Labour's deficiencies to my mostly hard left work colleagues, I'm just met with a tirade of anti-Tory bile. I suppose I should expect nothing less, but it's quite depressing at times, grown men wailing like student union protesters against anyone with an apposing view!

Likes Fast Cars

2,772 posts

166 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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robemcdonald said:
Betting on a sure thing isn't exactly brave is it? If we had a real opposition you might not be so keen.

As per my previous unanswered question. If you get rid of everyone with a contrary point of view the forum would die on its arse.
To be fair it is only meant to get rid the forum of one youngster who adds nothing of any intellectual depth or progressive thinking to the discussions, we're trying to raise standards here! laugh

robemcdonald

8,805 posts

197 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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loafer123 said:
robemcdonald said:
loafer123 said:
It means that Labour should be worrying about the rights of the British people in the EU before they worry about the rights of the citizens of EU countries who live in the UK.
And how will they do that?
By stating, as they have this morning, that their policy is to grant EU citizens right to remain in the UK whether or not the EU reciprocate.
But that is in the best interest of this country.

Without EU migrants a lot of services would just fail.

The Conservatives have even conceded that EU migration would need to carry on after Brexit.

BigMon

4,202 posts

130 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
No. Explained quite a few times why.
I don't want to read through the whole thread to try and find your points so would you mind posting them again?

mx-6

5,983 posts

214 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Likes Fast Cars said:
Talk about desperation..... what a bunch of losers:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39698465
That doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Why should a new government be compelled to follow the policy of the previous one?

Plus I don't have a problem with guaranteeing that the generally hard working european residents can stay here (it's a shame I can't vote to get rid of some of those workshy, antisocial, xenophobic indigenous types instead...).

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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It's so frustrating that nobody, simply nobody at the moment is good enough to provide decent opposition to the Conservatives.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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mx-6 said:
That doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Why should a new government be compelled to follow the policy of the previous one?

Plus I don't have a problem with guaranteeing that the generally hard working european residents can stay here (it's a shame I can't vote to get rid of some of those workshy, antisocial, xenophobic indigenous types instead...).
Why should they ALL be GUARANTEED to stay?
As an example, why couldn't the government simply say that they will make the application process easy for those who want to stay?

Silverbullet767

10,712 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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P5BNij said:
There's only one word left to describe Labour now - pathetic.

Whenever I try to point out Labour's deficiencies to my mostly hard left work colleagues, I'm just met with a tirade of anti-Tory bile. I suppose I should expect nothing less, but it's quite depressing at times, grown men wailing like student union protesters against anyone with an apposing view!
You should try living in Scotland, the SNP and their cronies have been at it for decades!

mx-6

5,983 posts

214 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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sidicks said:
mx-6 said:
That doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Why should a new government be compelled to follow the policy of the previous one?

Plus I don't have a problem with guaranteeing that the generally hard working european residents can stay here (it's a shame I can't vote to get rid of some of those workshy, antisocial, xenophobic indigenous types instead...).
Why should they ALL be GUARANTEED to stay?
As an example, why couldn't the government simply say that they will make the application process easy for those who want to stay?
Well there will be a lot less paperwork for one thing, and I'd being very optimistic that the EU would make a reciprocal agreement for all British citizens living abroad.

I think borders of nation states are obviously necessary for a number of practical reasons particularly security, but ultimately they are somewhat arbitary lines in the sand and a barrier to freedom. In an ideal world it would be great to be able to freely live and work anywhere without restriction, but in practice that can can very problematic with highly imbalanced economies of the developing world that we have over there. But sharing a free moving area with other economically properous neighbouring countries seems progressive to me.

Likes Fast Cars

2,772 posts

166 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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sidicks said:
mx-6 said:
That doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Why should a new government be compelled to follow the policy of the previous one?

Plus I don't have a problem with guaranteeing that the generally hard working european residents can stay here (it's a shame I can't vote to get rid of some of those workshy, antisocial, xenophobic indigenous types instead...).
Why should they ALL be GUARANTEED to stay?
As an example, why couldn't the government simply say that they will make the application process easy for those who want to stay?
Siicks: I think the "hard working european residents can stay" part quoted aligns with your views.

The application process makes sense but from what I read it was getting a little shambolic, wasn't it? Or was that the bloody European authorities complaining (again!)?

mx-6: Bloody Labour are trying to have a bet all ways as they have zero policies or credibility, it's like the Remaon campaign all over again - no substance. As someone else posted earlier it's easy when you're in Opposition, Cor-Blimey would st his nappy if he found himself with the keys to Number 10.

Likes Fast Cars

2,772 posts

166 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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funkyrobot said:
It's so frustrating that nobody, simply nobody at the moment is good enough to provide decent opposition to the Conservatives.
not for me it's not smile

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Likes Fast Cars said:
funkyrobot said:
It's so frustrating that nobody, simply nobody at the moment is good enough to provide decent opposition to the Conservatives.
not for me it's not smile
It's probably ok for now, but they might do something you disagree with. When they do, who will challenge them?

p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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funkyrobot said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
funkyrobot said:
It's so frustrating that nobody, simply nobody at the moment is good enough to provide decent opposition to the Conservatives.
not for me it's not smile
It's probably ok for now, but they might do something you disagree with. When they do, who will challenge them?
yes I can not think of a single situation where it a good idea to be wholly unchallenged.
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